An effective pet gem pricing method

[Valdoroth]

Hey Everyone! I've re-done this so you don't even have to any math. Just fill out the form and click the link given to see the approximate value of your pet gem. (Ha you can't win this time all you ppls who like to input false info I input it to ONLY show the most recently submitted :P)

Here's the new form for it: Pet Gem Pricing Form (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z6JtTjyvXoHTB7WN9gpUb9J39U2U85W9fjo_ccrR8ks/edit?usp=sharing)

Note 1: Please wait at least 5 minutes between submissions. It doesn't immediately update it on the Published Google Server as fast as on the spreadsheet itself.
Note 2: This is based off of Voucher costs of ecoin>alz prices for stuff and also factors towards high amp/ etc pets costing billions)

Here's how the math for the price works:

Each have a base value. You add the base value for each additional of that type, then multiply it by number of slots with that type.

Great slots = 50m base (50m= 1, 200m= 2 (100m+100m), 450m= 3(150m*3), etc)
These consist of: Amp, Crit Dmg, Crit Rate, Max Rate, Res. Rate

Good-Okay Slots= 10m base (10m= 1, 40m= 2 (20m+20m), 90m= 3, etc)
These consist of: HP, MP, Atk/M Atk, and Res CD,

Bad/Unwanted Slots= 3m base constantly no matter how many you have.
These consist of: HP/MP auto heal, MP %/ max aborb/ limit,
HP absorb limit up, Down/Stun/Unmovable/Knockdown/Knockback Resist, Flee Rate,
Min Damage Increase, Add Damage,1/2 slot Drop %, Alz,



Gem level itself has been simplified to only Gem lvl x 16.

[jone]

Thanks.
This was really helpful and reassuring.

[cerverus3]

so a lv9 gem should go for 252+ 15m S.amp +10m 1hp% steal +10m 1CR +10m 2CD +25m for the other slots
252+15+30+25=322m

[Valdoroth]

so a lv9 gem should go for 252+ 15m S.amp +10m 1hp% steal +15m 1CR +10m 2CD +25m for the other slots
252+15+30+25=322m
mmm yea, although its not a perfect system. Sometimes gotta bend it a little. Its a good way to get a base value though.

The point is that people overprice gems so often. Just because its lvl 10 doesn't make it worth like 700m+
The slots are the more important part.

[Valdoroth]

bump

[PSBeardy]

what about my lvl8 pet, 4% s amp, 2 crit damage slots, 2 hp slots?

[Valdoroth]

I suppose that there should be a bonus for each 'good' slot after 5. Perhaps add the base value of each. But only after 5. That other pet you say to have would be worth 960+60+40+128+60= 1.28b. If you add the previously stated addition you would add 110m, which would make it 1.48b

[Valdoroth]

Hey GM's this aint a skill/ level guide. Its more like an equipment since a pet adds to your stats like equipment. YOu should just add a Other section.

[PSBeardy]

so far running offer on my pet is 2.5 bill......

[Valdoroth]

ooo nice. My main pet is alot of fists, cd, cd res, rate, rate res and only like 1.5 bad slots.

[Spur]

lol so does a pet with 10 atk rates = 3m x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x10 = 30.72B?

[RekeesEnivid]

lol so does a pet with 10 atk rates = 3m x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x10 = 30.72B?

he said it wasn't a perfect system - merely a guideline to base prices -.- obviously you'd use your discretion.
and a pet like that should cost 300B :O

[Valdoroth]

lol so does a pet with 10 atk rates = 3m x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x2 x10 = 30.72B?
300 atk rate added?
Firstly, that'd be stupid.
Secondly, no one would buy it.
Thirdly, yes its just a guideline. But yes technically according to the formula i created it would be 30b. I think after 5 it would start to level out and the formula would change to x1.5, 1.25, x1.125, x1.0625, x 1.03125 instead of x2 still.
Which would lower it to 443.76m + base costs.

But then that formula would put a 10% amp pet to be only worth 11b. Which if you place it according to amp in gears and stuff, is still a high cost. If a 7% amp forci item costs only 2-4b, then adding only 3% shouldn't be worth THAT much more.

[Spur]

just trying to tell u the "price guide" is kinda pointless and opinion based.
15m per amp but yet 10m per 5atk when they are pretty much equivalent
u cant give certain slots values based on wat u believe to be true

[PSBeardy]

an all slot lvl 10 pet with the same amp in all slots ie..10% would be worth atleast 11b......it would be the most rare item in the game period...

[Valdoroth]

an all slot lvl 10 pet with the same amp in all slots ie..10% would be worth atleast 11b......it would be the most rare item in the game period...
more rare than a pc forcium db weapon with 2 slots and amp in 1 slot?


just trying to tell u the "price guide" is kinda pointless and opinion based.
15m per amp but yet 10m per 5atk when they are pretty much equivalent
u cant give certain slots values based on wat u believe to be true
well i based it off how gems sold in venus often. And also based off items costs and such. You know as well as most people that people way overprice not so great gems. This is an idea to alleviate that. And honestly, the way it works out seems fair enough.

[Chris]

omg, spur's so picky -.- kajsfdlkgadlkjfhds BLAH ye, anyways, thats a sick formula :O ill come back to this when i sell my pet :D

[Valdoroth]

bump :p thanks Chris

[Shade]

just trying to tell u the "price guide" is kinda pointless and opinion based.
15m per amp but yet 10m per 5atk when they are pretty much equivalent
u cant give certain slots values based on wat u believe to be true

Another note on the amp and attack thing. With some builds, the attack can prove better than the amp, so saying that 4 amp is better than 20 attack would be a mistake. I know with my current build, I get more out of attack increases than amp increases, so a better potential pet for me, using your system, would actually be cheaper.


I like it :)

[Valdoroth]

I edited this guide a bit to accomodate newer standards and prices. Please let me know if you do a calculation that seems too OP and I'll see what I can do to alter it.

[cerverus3]

hey val what about hp% vamp on pet o.O?

[Valdoroth]

hey val what about hp% vamp on pet o.O?I probably forgot to add that on the list didn't I. It's in between a Okay and Good. I probably should break them into more groups to really allow for a larger flexibility.

[Valdoroth]

I updated this :P It's fairly accurate and is just an approximation. I tested it, and a lvl 10 pet with 8 great slots, 1 good, and 1 bad = 3.375b, which is pretty close to real value I think, while a lvl 3 with 3 great = 500m. Also accurate enough for estimation for AH pricing.

[Valdoroth]

Ok, due to it's slow loading. I decided to simplify it more or less. Just type in what you see. Sorry ya gotta deal with the annoying editor borders, but it's the only way to get instant results.

For those of you too lazy to press Home or scroll up:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z6JtTjyvXoHTB7WN9gpUb9J39U2U85W9fjo_ccrR8ks/edit?usp=sharing

[Imunique]

so my pet with 3 magic amp, 1 r.rate and 1 mcr is worth 1b4 O.o bought it for 600m