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nckitsos
04-23-2010, 06:52 AM
I have my opinion on this matter, I just want to hear yours. :)


46% rate + 117% cdi

or

41% rate + 127% cdi

Which would you use? If all you did in this game was pvp. ^^



BASE: 924 AMP: 42

nckitsos
04-23-2010, 06:58 AM
Another question. And this one is for Cstriker. Because he's the only other competant FA I've seen on these forums.

+7 lapis 40% or +6 forc 10%?

Save me the +7 forc 10% talk, I know. Just pick which is better. :)

Again, I have my opinion. :] Using responses for comparison on knowledge about Fa's. :)

BASE: 924 AMP: 42

Enso
04-23-2010, 01:22 PM
Lol, correction, CStriker is the only traditional FA on this forum. What I do works perfectly though it isn't what most people would deem "good".

Anyway, on to your question(s)...

I would go with 41% rate, I've found it to be plenty in most situations because of how fast we combo.

I would use the Lapis then switch out for the Forcium for BM2.

nckitsos
04-23-2010, 01:26 PM
:) more input.

WIpwns
04-23-2010, 01:37 PM
go mfs =D

Enso
04-23-2010, 01:39 PM
go mfs =D

Nice input. -_-

nckitsos
04-23-2010, 02:07 PM
Edited: Base and amp included.

Incision what is your opinion on the rate values? 41 + 10 cdi or 46 - 10 ci?

Enso
04-23-2010, 02:13 PM
Which orb is the base magic for?

WIpwns
04-23-2010, 02:43 PM
forcium orb+7 7% m amp

zodi
04-23-2010, 05:23 PM
or 14% mgc amp forcium orb like miavis

Sheep
04-23-2010, 05:28 PM
41 rate.

nckitsos
04-23-2010, 08:25 PM
:) thanks sheep.

Any other opinions with supportive reasoning?

Matrimoney
04-23-2010, 08:27 PM
I'm not even an FA and I know 40 dmg>+6 forc...wtf?

its like a difference of....3x base or something? thats like trading 1 cd for 1 attack...no thx wtf?

WIpwns
04-23-2010, 08:31 PM
go back to ur own fail class section nerd

Matrimoney
04-23-2010, 08:34 PM
go back to ur own fail class section nerd

oh look rage owns ur wiz and i own ur blader

ur also not in ur own section you retarded ass fat nerd...gogogoogo back to where you belong in the t2 discussion area

WIpwns
04-23-2010, 08:36 PM
i also have a fa u damn nerd =)

Matrimoney
04-23-2010, 08:43 PM
i also have a fa u damn nerd =)

and i also know an fa that owns your fa in every way, pimp

you see whats going on here?

my bl>you
rages wiz>you
pimps fa>you

jesus you

WIpwns
04-23-2010, 08:46 PM
cant name any1 same lvl as me :(?
when i started playing, pimp was already 170 and was in existential, rage was already 120+, and urnubish self at 140

Sheep
04-23-2010, 08:47 PM
:) thanks sheep.

Any other opinions with supportive reasoning?

because from 41 to 48 rate, it doesnt really make much of a difference. i tested from having 55 to 43 and it's still the same. around 40 rate is all you need.

Cstriker
04-23-2010, 08:48 PM
Yes, the 40% lapis would be better then a +6 forc dmg orb. Im going to assume you already have the item on another character like a WI or FB who has the item. If you don't it's not worth spending the alz to get a 40% lapis.

Btw the 41 rate would be better, but you should trying to get your base up a bit higher.

Matrimoney
04-23-2010, 08:48 PM
cant name any1 same lvl as me :(?
when i started playing, pimp was already 170 and was in existential, rage was already 120+, and urnubish self at 140

ahahaha

thats funnny.
.
CS>you
Zac>you

oh hi!

WIpwns
04-23-2010, 08:49 PM
ahahaha

thats funnny.
.
CS>you
Zac>you

oh hi!
again, theyve been playing longer than me =p

Matrimoney
04-23-2010, 08:50 PM
again, theyve been playing longer than me =p

your point being????? you still , regardless of how long you've been playing

funny how you use that as an excuse....jesus christ youre more fail than i thought! :D

Cstriker
04-23-2010, 08:50 PM
again, theyve been playing longer than me =p

I doubt I've been playing longer then you now considering I was inactive for a few months and i'm barely on now.

Matrimoney
04-23-2010, 08:53 PM
I doubt I've been playing longer then you now considering I was inactive for a few months and i'm barely on now.

when you coming back anyway nooba noob????

WIpwns
04-23-2010, 08:53 PM
your point being????? you still , regardless of how long you've been playing

funny how you use that as an excuse....jesus christ youre more fail than i thought! :D

i started 2 months ago =D
i had mystic 3% m amp gears at lvl 137 until the eos8 dropped, last month o.o
now i is 148 with decent gears and i didnt have to use irl money like any other ppl out there

WIpwns
04-23-2010, 08:53 PM
I doubt I've been playing longer then you now considering I was inactive for a few months and i'm barely on now.
first time i met u was like 2 weeks ago o.o

Matrimoney
04-23-2010, 08:54 PM
i had mystic 3% m amp gears at lvl 137

lol k nuff said

Sheep
04-23-2010, 08:54 PM
i started 2 months ago =D
false statement

Cstriker
04-23-2010, 08:55 PM
i started 2 months ago =D
i had mystic 3% m amp gears at lvl 137 until the eos8 dropped, last month o.o
now i is 148 with decent gears and i didnt have to use irl money like any other ppl out there

thats a lie, you had a eos8 drop a few months back, and I remember when I played you were that FA (900234 or something) in tg that everyone in uhh whatever starla's/nathan's guild was until something happened and they started to hate you.

Cstriker
04-23-2010, 08:56 PM
when you coming back anyway nooba noob????

Uhh probably when I grad, too busy to play for a long amount of time. Funny thing was I could've got a free 3b, but I didn't want the person to go emo so I gave him his gear back lul.

WIpwns
04-23-2010, 08:57 PM
thats a lie, you had a eos8 drop a few months back, and I remember when I played you were that FA (900234 or something) in tg that everyone in uhh whatever starla's/nathan's guild was until something happened and they started to hate you.
definately not me o.o

Cstriker
04-23-2010, 08:58 PM
definately not me o.o

It was the same OGP forum name...

Matrimoney
04-23-2010, 09:00 PM
It was the same OGP forum name...

i think it was FApwns or something?? either way this kid s even after getting money from an eos 8....wtf kinda mag user finds an eos 8 and sells it LAWL?

and to end up being a lowbie 14x wi with complete trash gear? jesus...smooth move

WIpwns
04-23-2010, 09:02 PM
It was the same OGP forum name...
nuh uh o.o

Enso
04-23-2010, 09:04 PM
It's different for FA... FA aren't a crit class, we're mainly amp/base based.

Cstriker
04-23-2010, 09:08 PM
It's different for FA... FA aren't a crit class, we're mainly amp/base based.

Yes we are technically an amp/base class, but amp only helps after you have high base. But a +7 40% dmg lapis > +6 forc orb. I for one only have 106% crit dmg because I like higher base/amp, that doesn't mean that all forc orbs are going to be better then lower grades though.

Matrimoney
04-23-2010, 09:10 PM
Yes we are technically an amp/base class, but amp only helps after you have high base. But a +7 40% dmg lapis > +6 forc orb. I for one only have 106% crit dmg because I like higher base/amp, that doesn't mean that all forc orbs are going to be better then lower grades though.

I thought FA's were high base/CD builds because of AOS? Doesn't all of your DPS come from your crits?

Cstriker
04-23-2010, 09:24 PM
I thought FA's were high base/CD builds because of AOS? Doesn't all of your DPS come from your crits?

Well for war high base/amp is better because most of the time you're going to be carrying a legacy. When you aren't you'll be in BM2 where base/amp > base/crit.

Error
04-24-2010, 08:34 AM
thats a lie, you had a eos8 drop a few months back, and I remember when I played you were that FA (900234 or something) in tg that everyone in uhh whatever starla's/nathan's guild was until something happened and they started to hate you.

From what I heard he asked Nathan to buy him a TG Glove 7%m.amp and then he quickly left the guild or something. Basically he scammed Nathan, or so what I've heard.

Oh and past 200 CDI the crit dmg after that gets cut in half so I prefer high base/amp, I find the extra crit dmg/lower base not to be worth it. But to each his own opinion I guess.

nckitsos
04-24-2010, 01:32 PM
Yes, the 40% lapis would be better then a +6 forc dmg orb. Im going to assume you already have the item on another character like a WI or FB who has the item. If you don't it's not worth spending the alz to get a 40% lapis.

Btw the 41 rate would be better, but you should trying to get your base up a bit higher.

Agreed completely. Oh and my 40% costed me 150m total ;p seh included

nckitsos
04-24-2010, 01:33 PM
I thought FA's were high base/CD builds because of AOS? Doesn't all of your DPS come from your crits?

If you think all our dps comes from our crits (agreed), then why did you bash a 40%? :p

nckitsos
04-24-2010, 01:35 PM
From what I heard he asked Nathan to buy him a TG Glove 7%m.amp and then he quickly left the guild or something. Basically he scammed Nathan, or so what I've heard.

Oh and past 200 CDI the crit dmg after that gets cut in half so I prefer high base/amp, I find the extra crit dmg/lower base not to be worth it. But to each his own opinion I guess.

And that was the point of this thread ^^

WIpwns
04-24-2010, 04:26 PM
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nckitsos
04-24-2010, 08:00 PM
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