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idkaname
03-16-2011, 05:30 PM
Can any FSs successful in war tell me a good combo against guardians and one for fighting other characters (if it is different combo). i really want to get a decent score in war.(i'm a lvl 106 FS so there's no restrictions on which skills to use)

Thanks in advance :)

xXCrusadeXx
03-16-2011, 08:00 PM
just use dps skills on a guard, preferably with mortal bane. On people use ur aoe's to hit any and everyone thats around you, or mix it up if ur 1v1.

M0NSTAH
03-16-2011, 08:11 PM
i prefer to use aoe skills in a mob of caps :) & DPS skills on gaurd.

idkaname
03-16-2011, 09:28 PM
what is ur dps combo?

Xiju
03-17-2011, 09:12 AM
Why is there even discussion on this? FS are the most op nigs in war it's ridiculous.
SG > SS > SB > repeat

MrTubbins
04-26-2011, 05:41 AM
You forgot to aod before that.

Valdoroth
04-26-2011, 06:24 AM
Why is there even discussion on this? FS are the most op class in war it's ridiculous.
SG > SS > SB > repeat
Actually, this isn't a bad question. Skills have different levels that have different stats you know. Learn more about this game b4 stomping on newer ppl's questions.

Personnally I use Shield Splinter(15)> Shield Grenade(18)>Shield Explosion(15)>SoaringShot(20). SB takes too long imo. Both Combo's are almost the same DPS too.
Also use proper label for classes.

ZEPR0
04-26-2011, 01:05 PM
MOBS
buff = SS>MB
SG>SS>SB>IMPACT repeat

Crowded ppl
Buff = SS then
SG>SS>SB>SE
when you see your HP 1/4 remaining GO AOD
then combo again

xXCrusadeXx
04-26-2011, 01:40 PM
not a fan of SB anymore, takes too long to cast and doesnt improve on overall dps/doesnt have sufficient AOE. i'd either use SE mixed with SS/SG or fill in the gap with few dps skills

ZEPR0
04-26-2011, 01:50 PM
not a fan of SB anymore, takes too long to cast and doesnt improve on overall dps/doesnt have sufficient AOE. i'd either use SE mixed with SS/SG or fill in the gap with few dps skills

LOL SBs are still great Bro you could like dash in SB if you know wat Im sayin

xXCrusadeXx
04-26-2011, 02:09 PM
lol ya but thats not rly helpful id say

ZEPR0
04-26-2011, 02:16 PM
IDK for me it is
spcially when soloing mobs of ppl I say SB is my quick escape XD

xXCrusadeXx
04-26-2011, 07:03 PM
if ur in combo, just click on someone far away, click a skill, then fade or dash in the direction u wanna run to. And for this reason it helps to have skills that are shorter in cooldown time so that you can run during a combo more effectively.

ZEPR0
04-29-2011, 08:41 PM
if ur in combo, just click on someone far away, click a skill, then fade or dash in the direction u wanna run to. And for this reason it helps to have skills that are shorter in cooldown time so that you can run during a combo more effectively.

LOL yeah I know how to use dash combo
prob is I aways broke I guess I need more pratice with it

plzbuffme
05-21-2011, 10:38 AM
level 20 sb hits harder than lvl 18 shield grenade and and crits almost hard as lvl 18 shield splinter

just saying

Valdoroth
05-22-2011, 05:30 AM
level 20 sb hits harder than lvl 18 shield grenade and and crits almost hard as lvl 18 shield splinter

just saying
See, this relates to what I was saying about skills lvls. What's the cool time on lvl 20 sb? like 17 secs?

TankAlluBicheS
06-03-2011, 03:37 AM
Even lv9 SB hit harder then lv18 SS, SB either crit or not

plzbuffme
06-03-2011, 12:06 PM
See, this relates to what I was saying about skills lvls. What's the cool time on lvl 20 sb? like 17 secs?

except you'd have to be an idiot to use sb often
which is why it is perfectly fine to have it at high level holla

xXCrusadeXx
06-03-2011, 03:43 PM
Average pvp dps against someone with 950def:

lv 15 SG: 431.587
lv 18 SS: 407.515
lv 20 SB: 403.819
lv 19 SE: 408.543

calculated with my stats. SB isnt bad, just something i prefer not to use as much. If it doesnt act as good aoe skill, i'd rather throw in dps skills.

TankAlluBicheS
06-03-2011, 03:53 PM
it's kinda stupid to judge other ppl, everyone have diff combo in war. it depends how u use it only.

Aniki
06-19-2011, 05:55 PM
Average pvp dps against someone with 950def:

lv 15 SG: 431.587
lv 18 SS: 407.515
lv 20 SB: 403.819
lv 19 SE: 408.543

calculated with my stats. SB isnt bad, just something i prefer not to use as much. If it doesnt act as good aoe skill, i'd rather throw in dps skills.
wow your crits are terrible no offense

xXCrusadeXx
06-19-2011, 07:24 PM
those aren't how much damage each skill does. theyre the average DPS of non-crits and crits combined against a player with 950 def.

Shinji
06-19-2011, 10:08 PM
wow your crits are terrible no offense
Better than hanjob 200non crits

Tenrai
06-20-2011, 08:42 AM
LOL yeah I know how to use dash combo
prob is I aways broke I guess I need more pratice with it

check out leatrix latency fix and turn down your rendering view

Davynelord
06-20-2011, 10:31 AM
Average pvp dps against someone with 950def:

lv 15 SG: 431.587
lv 18 SS: 407.515
lv 20 SB: 403.819
lv 19 SE: 408.543

calculated with my stats. SB isnt bad, just something i prefer not to use as much. If it doesnt act as good aoe skill, i'd rather throw in dps skills.

Those numbers look off to me at first glance.....Are those factoring in the crit chance and how often you can use the skill in a given time period? Not all skills can be used the same number of times in the same given time period.

for example, SS(18) is about 6 cooldown and 4.0 cast with 1.85 amp and 776 add dmg.....while SB(20) is 22.7 cooldown and 4.0 cast with 1.95 amp and 740 add dmg.

So in the same given time period, SS(18) can be used every 10 seconds (give or take 1 second due to pauses between castings) while SB(20) can only be used every 26.7 seconds......in 30 seconds you'd do nearly 3 SS or 1 SB.....in 60 seconds you'd do almost 6 SS and 2 SB (maybe 3 but difference between the two increases the longer the fight goes on favoring SS).....now SS has 6 chances to crit while SB only as 2....when you average it all out, SS should do far more than 4 extra points of DPS than SB especially since it does 100% more crit dmg than SB. so yeah, those numbers look off to me for it to be the true DPS or have been calculated correctly with all the right factors included.

Davynelord
06-20-2011, 10:46 AM
Oh and as far as defense goes....defense affects all skills equally, so it doesn't matter how much defense a target has it won't change the DPS difference between skills. 950 defense won't lower the damage of SS more than it would SB because defense is not percentage based. So for purpose of calculating DPS, amount of defense of target only factors in when you want to know exactly how much FINAL dmg you do to a target with each skill. This is only a factor to know when you need to deal a good death blow. if they have 500 HP left and you have the choice of using a skill that will do a final 550 or 400 damage in one hit....you'd choose the 550 to get the kill or risk target recovering. As far as DPS goes, defense don't matter in that. The only thing that changes damage or DPS between skills is the targets level in relation to your own.

xXCrusadeXx
06-20-2011, 01:23 PM
ill brake it down with shield grenade as an example. (on enemy with 950 def)
non crit: 612 damage
crit: 2064

Cast time: 3.0sec
612 dmg / 3 sec = 204 dmg/sec (non crit)
2064 dmg / 3 sec = 688 dmg/sec (crit)
These are the individual DPS values.

Now if I had 50 rate, the overal DPS would be an average of the two values: 446dmg/sec
I have 47 rate so my average DPS value is slightly less: 431dmg/sec

And as for the def, it doesnt matter. Just wrote it as a reference.

DeathRhythm
06-20-2011, 03:56 PM
theres skill require to play a fs i never knew where have i been all my life

Aniki
06-20-2011, 04:13 PM
youre wrong cabal takes no skills to play lol