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DeadMang
04-25-2010, 11:33 AM
Well im having a hard time picking what weapons to use for my fb so which do you think is better?

Osm Kat 40% cd +7 + Lapis orb 40% cd +7
Forcium kat 7%samp +7 + lapis orb 40% cd +7
Forcium blade of db 17% cd +6 + lapis orb 40% cd +7

i already have the lapis orb just cant decide the other wep to buy lol

Sheep
04-25-2010, 12:33 PM
Forcium kat 7%samp +7 + lapis orb 40% cd +7
definitely. you will be one tough badass fb

DVwizzy
04-25-2010, 01:31 PM
it'd be even better if you could get your hands on an identical lapis crystal...

DeadMang
04-25-2010, 02:15 PM
Why crystal? and so far im thinking of going with the forcium kat amp but waiting on more responses o.o

Enso
04-25-2010, 02:23 PM
Why crystal? and so far im thinking of going with the forcium kat amp but waiting on more responses o.o

Crystal would be for more attack.

DeadMang
04-25-2010, 02:25 PM
oh but its only like 2 attack o.o lol

Berserk_Fury
04-25-2010, 02:27 PM
40 dmg lapis crystals aren't as popular as lapis orbs, so it will be 2 more attack and cheaper.

DeadMang
04-25-2010, 02:33 PM
oh i see but i already have the orb extended. think the osm kat is worth it? or forcium +7 amp is still better o.o

tomaboy
04-25-2010, 03:05 PM
Most FB's do +7 Forcium Sword and +7 40 Damage(or 36) Lapis +7.

Berserk_Fury
04-25-2010, 03:14 PM
A 40 dmg osm kat should do better in war, but I believe there is a soft cap on crit damage at 200%, so I think it wouldn't be a good idea to have 2 40 dmg weapons at 170.

snowberry
04-26-2010, 07:07 AM
+9 or 8 lapis crystal or topaz crafted and red osm blade +7 with 40 CD or forcium 20CD

DVwizzy
04-26-2010, 07:27 AM
what will be in the crystals? 40%? and i didn't know bout that soft cap.. hmmmm...

snowberry
04-26-2010, 05:44 PM
LOLLL use 40% lapis itain't soft i crit everytime

Berserk_Fury
04-26-2010, 07:11 PM
From what I was told 20 dmg forcium +7 is better than +7 red osm/topaz. The crits are slightly weaker, but the non-crits make up for it. I haven't tested it myself though.

beowolf101
04-26-2010, 07:20 PM
well il never be able 2 knwo either
closest thing i got 2 forcy 2 slot is my
+12 topaz orb 20 cd
o.O translates to like +5 2 slot forcy if im right o.o

snowberry
04-26-2010, 07:21 PM
of course cuz forcium has more attack just a few more and well just bout 20 CD less than 40% redosm its just a few CD dosen't matter the hard hit base attack makes up for the lost 20 CD

Rockstar
04-26-2010, 07:37 PM
From what I was told 20 dmg forcium +7 is better than +7 red osm/topaz. The crits are slightly weaker, but the non-crits make up for it. I haven't tested it myself though.

Depends on how you play the game, BM1 or BM2. In my personal tests of these 2 weapon types, they actually do nearly the same damage. (Example: Forcium hits 500 crit, 200 non-crit and RedOsm/Topaz hits 600 crit, 100 non-crit) IMO, topaz/red osm 40% CD is better than forcium 20% CD. It is because of FBs high crit rate, FBs can take advantage of the higher damage ceiling producing higher DPS, and with FB BM2, you should be critting a lot more (+hardluck) then 50% of the time. With BM1 most FBs have low crit rate and won't crit as often, so the forcium has more of an advantage there, and also Forcium gives a ton more magic which further boosts your BM1.

LastHour
04-26-2010, 08:16 PM
Depends on how you play the game, BM1 or BM2. In my personal tests of these 2 weapon types, they actually do nearly the same damage. (Example: Forcium hits 500 crit, 200 non-crit and RedOsm/Topaz hits 600 crit, 100 non-crit) IMO, topaz/red osm 40% CD is better than forcium 20% CD. It is because of FBs high crit rate, FBs can take advantage of the higher damage ceiling producing higher DPS, and with FB BM2, you should be critting a lot more (+hardluck) then 50% of the time. With BM1 most FBs have low crit rate and won't crit as often, so the forcium has more of an advantage there, and also Forcium gives a ton more magic which further boosts your BM1.

Personally I think forcium katana and 40% lapis/topaz is the most balanced between the two. On orbs the differences between attack are not that high so you can still gain the high critical damage without destroying your base. The osmium blade to me just seems to give up too much base for higher defense targets in PvE and bm1 would seem to be too hurt by low magic if osmium and lapis are used together. The things you want to hurt usually aren't the 800 defense mobs but the 1000-1800 defense bosses which low non-critical damage can actually make the non-criticals and criticals of a lower critical damage build higher. Dungeon bosses can have quite a bit of defense in some of them [often overlooked], especially if your looking to fight tyrant which last I tested had about 1660 defense and 1770 for leth tyrant.

Suterusu
04-27-2010, 04:46 AM
forcy kat + lapis 40

LiveDirT
04-28-2010, 12:00 PM
Depends on how you play the game, BM1 or BM2. In my personal tests of these 2 weapon types, they actually do nearly the same damage. (Example: Forcium hits 500 crit, 200 non-crit and RedOsm/Topaz hits 600 crit, 100 non-crit) IMO, topaz/red osm 40% CD is better than forcium 20% CD. It is because of FBs high crit rate, FBs can take advantage of the higher damage ceiling producing higher DPS, and with FB BM2, you should be critting a lot more (+hardluck) then 50% of the time. With BM1 most FBs have low crit rate and won't crit as often, so the forcium has more of an advantage there, and also Forcium gives a ton more magic which further boosts your BM1.

really true but if the FB is not 170, i would rather use the forcium 20% dmg over the lvl99 40%dmg weapons

Suterusu
04-28-2010, 12:04 PM
realistically who would have a 20 dmg forcy wep = /

Berserk_Fury
04-28-2010, 12:06 PM
realistically who would have a 20 dmg forcy wep = /

People that go to FT2.

Suterusu
04-28-2010, 12:09 PM
Lol not that many xD

LiveDirT
04-28-2010, 12:10 PM
People that go to FT2.

not only FT2... but solo bosses too

Suterusu
04-28-2010, 12:12 PM
yea but those people are all the pros o.o

Rockstar
04-28-2010, 12:17 PM
really true but if the FB is not 170, i would rather use the forcium 20% dmg over the lvl99 40%dmg weapons

Why would you not want to be 170? It's your choice if you like Forcium 20CD, it is truly a great weapon. The difference is small, this is just my personal opinion and what I have tested already.

theotherFB2
05-01-2010, 04:29 PM
Why would you not want to be 170? It's your choice if you like Forcium 20CD, it is truly a great weapon. The difference is small, this is just my personal opinion and what I have tested already.

so Rockstar i really wanna know what type of blade you're using or which is better when using BM2 and in pvp

snowberry
05-02-2010, 06:13 AM
his weps must be redosm duhh

NewEra
05-03-2010, 11:04 AM
i would go with my+9 forcium amp blade 7% s amp with a lapis xtal +8 or 7 with 36 crit dmg i have one like this i bought it in AH for 1.1bil can i extend it??? i think i can it goes up to 3 slots or more so i can right?

Berserk_Fury
05-03-2010, 12:01 PM
If you extend a 36 dmg crystal, the first 2 slots would give you 24 crit dmg. The total crit damage you can have in slots is capped at 25%, so if you put crit dmg in the last slot you will only gain 1% more. You'll be better off trying to random rate the last slot or put attack in it.

N3mesis
05-03-2010, 12:22 PM
Go Titanium Blade and Crystal 5 rate. Extend and put attack. GG.

NewEra
05-03-2010, 12:50 PM
Go Titanium Blade and Crystal 5 rate. Extend and put attack. GG. i would have low base attack with that i already tried and it would crit alot but am more for crit and hard base incase i dont crit ...... i didnt know i would gain 1% for extended wow that

NewEra
05-03-2010, 12:57 PM
why is everyone selling there forcium blade+6 and katana s amp for 100mil its a useful weapon why sell it?

Sheep
05-03-2010, 01:10 PM
Go Titanium Blade and Crystal 5 rate. Extend and put attack. GG.

those ass. it used to be decent as 1 sword for a bl, but now it's just terrible.

NewEra
05-04-2010, 07:46 AM
for real man tit ass now

Berserk_Fury
05-04-2010, 08:43 AM
i would have low base attack with that i already tried and it would crit alot but am more for crit and hard base incase i dont crit ...... i didnt know i would gain 1% for extended wow that

those ass. it used to be decent as 1 sword for a bl, but now it's just terrible.

for real man tit ass now

All of you are too stupid to post on forums.

NewEra
05-04-2010, 03:06 PM
i know you are

NewEra
05-04-2010, 06:23 PM
is the crit cap 200? or more? and here's a choice get forcium amp katana for pve and osm or redosm crit + lapis for both

beowolf101
05-04-2010, 07:59 PM
i highly doubt there is a cap for cd
if there is then
i would say around 240-250 range
T_T trust me i tried with fa my damge was poopy when i went aos
-.-

Berserk_Fury
05-04-2010, 08:21 PM
There's no hard cap, soft cap at 200%. Everything past 200% only gives half as much.

NewEra
05-05-2010, 03:49 AM
ohok

beowolf101
05-05-2010, 06:42 AM
booooo then why give fbs an advantage on cd ?
we just end up being screwed T_T

Berserk_Fury
05-05-2010, 06:45 AM
booooo then why give fbs an advantage on cd ?
we just end up being screwed T_T

Tell that to shielders and FAs.

Suterusu
05-05-2010, 07:26 AM
Meh >_>

beowolf101
05-05-2010, 02:28 PM
Tell that to shielders and FAs.

nah i say fbs end up getting screwed the most
alot of fas go +7 10 crit or +7 m amp (forcy)
fs go amp blade and crystal or amp blade 40 crystal
fbs go both ways o.o

Berserk_Fury
05-05-2010, 03:04 PM
nah i say fbs end up getting screwed the most
alot of fas go +7 10 crit or +7 m amp (forcy)
fs go amp blade and crystal or amp blade 40 crystal
fbs go both ways o.o

AoS, shield splinter. Also maybe then you shouldn't get 2 40 dmg weapons?

beowolf101
05-05-2010, 06:23 PM
AoS, shield splinter. Also maybe then you shouldn't get 2 40 dmg weapons?

aos is temp so amp either way i liked it on my archer
fs well duh there base is lower than fbs ........

NewEra
05-09-2010, 04:24 PM
how about you go with red osm blade 36 crit damage+9 and lapis 36 crit damage more crit the better

Berserk_Fury
05-09-2010, 04:53 PM
how about you go with red osm blade 36 crit damage+9 and lapis 36 crit damage more crit the better

If you don't know how this game works, don't give others advice.

Matrimoney
05-09-2010, 05:17 PM
If you don't know how this game works, don't give others advice.

Same goes for you scrub.

beowolf101
05-09-2010, 05:26 PM
Same goes for you scrub.
fury > u mengz

LordNorth
05-09-2010, 05:27 PM
fury > u mengz

hush child. This game is serious business to a got like matrimoney.

NewEra
05-09-2010, 06:36 PM
Same goes for you scrub.

thanks fo the back up matrimoney.....and f you FP i only saying whats good u ass noob

NewEra
05-09-2010, 06:37 PM
don't try to be the boss cuz you don't know s hit just cuz you got sig metal suit and good gears dosen't make you the boss so S TF U

Berserk_Fury
05-09-2010, 06:49 PM
don't try to be the boss cuz you don't know s hit just cuz you got sig metal suit and good gears dosen't make you the boss so S TF U

umad bro?

NewEra
05-10-2010, 07:53 AM
yeah am mad i give my opnion of what to go with an you come in telling me i don't understand s hit like that

Berserk_Fury
05-10-2010, 08:17 AM
Because you don't.

NewEra
05-10-2010, 02:14 PM
i understand alot am just telling him/her my opinion

WIpwns
05-10-2010, 04:11 PM
i understand alot am just telling him/her my opinion

l2engrish meng

NewEra
05-11-2010, 12:41 PM
am not gonna argue with ya man we all have our differences i rather walk away