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Sryinex
05-17-2011, 04:57 PM
Is 1% mp steal enough to not run out while in bm2/comboing? Thinking of investing some AP into an MP steal rune.

Thanks.

Deathlymonkey
05-17-2011, 05:26 PM
It won't be enough to use NO mp pot, but it takes a lot more time to get to 0 mp. If you don't use vamp earrings(with mp steal per hit), it might be pretty useless

Sryinex
05-17-2011, 05:41 PM
nah i'd use vamp ears, just worried about the %. Pet has no mp steal, so kinda outta luck with that. Might invest the ap just to reduce the time, maybe put another level into it after i do a couple other runes.

thanks for the inputs

AmosMoses
05-23-2011, 12:32 AM
i had a pet with 1% mp steal and it barely helped at all =/

I3athtub
05-23-2011, 12:42 AM
just use a Force absorb Ring +4

Stats r 5% hp steal, 5% mp steal and + 5 def

DeathRhythm
05-23-2011, 01:51 AM
who use mp steal o.o i never run out but jus incase i have the 50 stack one lol

chainlock
05-23-2011, 01:56 AM
1% can be enough, it depends on the damage you do.

DeathRhythm
05-23-2011, 02:11 AM
but at 140+ who use ap for mp steal runes :/

I3athtub
05-23-2011, 02:36 AM
but at 140+ who use ap for mp steal runes :/

Mp is the last problem a high lvl should think abt, getting around Mana freeze is something to think about.

with my bl, I used Mp Rune, and it is now lvl 6 and my pet has a fail slot of +30 Mp hahahah mther FUc..en Garlie. With Force increase, i am Mana Freze Proof

DeathRhythm
05-23-2011, 02:37 AM
Mp is the last problem a high lvl should think abt, getting around Mana freeze is something to think about.

with my bl, I used Mp Rune, and it is now lvl 6 and my pet has a fail slot of +30 Mp hahahah mther FUc..en Garlie. With Force increase, i am Mana Freze Proof
but mp rune is different from mp steal lol

Cathy
05-23-2011, 03:28 AM
just use a Force absorb Ring +4

Stats r 5% hp steal, 5% mp steal and + 5 def

The whole point of hp/mp steal rune is to vamp without a force absorb ring...

DeathRhythm
05-23-2011, 03:34 AM
The whole point of hp/mp steal rune is to vamp without a force absorb ring...
no hes saying he want mp steal rune not hp steal rune thats why we saying its useless for 140+ to get mp steal rune

Cathy
05-23-2011, 03:43 AM
no hes saying he want mp steal rune not hp steal rune thats why we saying its useless for 140+ to get mp steal rune

It keeps you from using mp pots. Sounds useful to me.

DeathRhythm
05-23-2011, 03:49 AM
It keeps you from using mp pots. Sounds useful to me.
but we hardly runs out of mp at that level D: i mean why not just have 1 stack of mp pots lol that will last till 180 xD

Sryinex
05-23-2011, 04:44 AM
Firstly, I have enough HP steal in my rune and pet. Second, the reason for the mp steal rune is to avoid using a ring(costing 15 cdi). And we're talking about wi here..considering its in the wi section. And yes, you do run out of MP very quickly in bm2 especially without any mp steal.

But anyway, auto-potting causes significant DPS loss in bm2, so not having to do that allows you to achieve your maximum potential output. And yes it does save pots, but mostly it saves the hassle of monitoring MP to pot manually which is the big key factor.

I used the mp steal rune and it works alright for me for now, i'll eventually upgrade it to level 2 after I get my other runes out of the way.

Spur
05-23-2011, 08:41 AM
lets just say i have an mp steal rune maxed. i dun understand y u wont want a free 3%mp steal when there are no other good runes to learn

rythemz
05-23-2011, 10:46 AM
1% is definitely not enough. If you go that path, might as well max it. Manually clicking the mp pot is not that bad either, unless the cost of the pot is bothering you too much and you have nothing else to do with your AP.