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NewEra
05-22-2011, 05:56 PM
well here goes,i am a lvl 146 FA,703 def,i was in lost island compass map,what i'm really asking is how do a good FA survive mobs? in all dungeons?

BamOwnage
05-22-2011, 06:02 PM
Stun lock and knowing when to use heal

chainlock
05-22-2011, 06:23 PM
Sonic + 3 cannons = no damage taken from anything but bosses, which you should be in bm2 for.

NewEra
05-22-2011, 07:20 PM
Sonic + 3 cannons = no damage taken from anything but bosses, which you should be in bm2 for.

hmmmm,i see but,what about mobs? when you are surrounded by them,and like the way out and way in are closed? and you don't have any SP left? for example:FT2

Cathy
05-22-2011, 07:53 PM
Just be in bm2 nonstop and you'll be like an FS :D

chainlock
05-22-2011, 07:54 PM
hmmmm,i see but,what about mobs? when you are surrounded by them,and like the way out and way in are closed? and you don't have any SP left? for example:FT2

You shouldn't be by the mobs in ft2 as a fa, other than dashing through them. Stun and run or let the WA/FS lead.

NewEra
05-22-2011, 09:24 PM
AHHH i see thanks,another question,how do most FA get 130+ CD and like example:58+ amp?

infiCathi
05-22-2011, 09:44 PM
by being awesome. :D

7/40 helm, cr2's, ros10's, right amy, board, eppy, etc

iNercy
05-22-2011, 10:59 PM
by being awesome. :D

7/40 helm, cr2's, ros10's, right amy, board, eppy, etc

dont lie you use aod :)

jone
05-23-2011, 02:59 AM
AHHH i see thanks,another question,how do most FA get 130+ CD and like example:58+ amp?

Yea, I don't get that either.
I've currently got 57% amp (had 59% until I changed to BoS+6) and 92% CD.
I don't see any way to get more CD without losing amp

MamaMiaYoe
05-23-2011, 08:14 AM
I was pm'ed by a random person this morning regarding dungeon survival on FA, I assume its the same person who started this thread. okay, here are my cents,

AoS, Ic2, FI shouldnt be as difficult as ft2 with proper vamp gearing. Ofcourse and as always you have to stay with your group, and know when to use bm's defense at certain spots where mobs hit hard.


ft2 is a different story.. >.<
I went martial and had 732 defense w/ Bike and drosnins. FT2 WAS NOT easy at that build. I never had a chance to attack and help clear mobs/bosses because when aggro gets on me, Im dead. A battle osm FA isnt an excemption,
I managed to finish the dungeon with my party by JUST healing my members and staying with the group. All Im saying, you go in this dungeon with a party, then all you got to do is heal and keep the party alive, that is if youre the only FA. (there should always be one fa focused on healing in ft2)

When I switched back to forcium build, same routine - HEALS - but now I can also attack without worrying of getting hit by boss like Ispita (in bm2). My Def rate 3134, and 964 defense (bike, drosnin earings), and it was a whole lot easier.

Whether youre martial or battle, you have more chances of surviving ft2 by keeping your party members alive. Use them tankers as your shield :)

BamOwnage
05-23-2011, 04:54 PM
Yea, I don't get that either.
I've currently got 57% amp (had 59% until I changed to BoS+6) and 92% CD.
I don't see any way to get more CD without losing amp

Perhaps tyrant ring, KRED, and possibly CDI in pets....but idk on the math for that part lol

chainlock
05-23-2011, 06:32 PM
AHHH i see thanks,another question,how do most FA get 130+ CD and like example:58+ amp?

They don't. Your average FA will have 46-60 amp and 80-130 crit damage. Usually the higher the amp the lower the CD and vice versa.

NewEra
05-23-2011, 09:13 PM
by being awesome. :D

7/40 helm, cr2's, ros10's, right amy, board, eppy, etc

lol something is fishy here for me,where do you get all that amp from 69%? and 140 CD?? kinda hard to believe you have that much high amp and CD,what's ur secret(just sayin",fake stats? or fake stats?) like i bought 4 CR+2 1ROS+1 36lapis orb i have 7/34helm(can't afford 40/7) and i still don't get that high of amp or crit

NewEra
05-23-2011, 09:14 PM
They don't. Your average FA will have 46-60 amp and 80-130 crit damage. Usually the higher the amp the lower the CD and vice versa.

infitcathi is not looking like visa versa for me(she or he has) high amp and high CD? explain if i may ask this simple task.

chainlock
05-23-2011, 09:26 PM
infitcathi is not looking like visa versa for me(she or he has) high amp and high CD? explain if i may ask this simple task.

Above average FA. Amp/crit helm and weapons.

IcyWave
05-23-2011, 09:31 PM
i lol'd she poorly have 14% m amp suit or something to have that much with so much CD only way unlesss??????????????????????????

chainlock
05-23-2011, 10:33 PM
If she had 14% boots or suit she couldn't have the hp she has.

Cathy
05-24-2011, 02:52 AM
20 base, 40 helm, 30 rings, 10 k red, 10 aop6, that accounts for 110 CD. not hard to believe she can get 30 more from pet/orbs/cd rune. Considering her 46 rate she might have 45 cd from rings too :p And if she was wearing a 14 amp forci boot or suit her defense would be higher than 774 lol

NewEra
05-24-2011, 08:41 AM
20 base, 40 helm, 30 rings, 10 k red, 10 aop6, that accounts for 110 CD. not hard to believe she can get 30 more from pet/orbs/cd rune. Considering her 46 rate she might have 45 cd from rings too :p And if she was wearing a 14 amp forci boot or suit her defense would be higher than 774 lol

AHHHH,now i found her stats,made a few calculation,i found out how she or has 140 CD and high amp,for her or his gears are pretty expensive,but it's possible,my mistake.

fallensky
05-27-2011, 12:49 AM
hi guys..... can FA survive in FT2 if def 850++

chainlock
05-27-2011, 10:50 AM
You can survive with 200 defense if you know where to stand.

IcyWave
05-27-2011, 11:29 AM
You can survive with 200 defense if you know where to stand.

i lol'd ahahaha get 1 hit,even if you know where to stand

chainlock
05-27-2011, 12:58 PM
i lol'd ahahaha get 1 hit,even if you know where to stand

So long as you have 3k+ life you're fine.

MamaMiaYoe
05-27-2011, 02:57 PM
lol 200 def with 3k hp wont escape leth, or even ispita. :) theres no spot in ft2 where u wont get hit. >.>

DeathRhythm
05-27-2011, 07:18 PM
all u need is a mob costume and u can stand anywhere :D

jone
05-28-2011, 02:40 AM
all u need is a mob costume and u can stand anywhere :D

What's so special about the costumes?

MamaMiaYoe
05-28-2011, 05:52 AM
its actually possible we take a fa alt into ft2 all the time naked o_O

oh i wanna see a video. o.o

jone
05-28-2011, 06:00 AM
oh i wanna see a video. o.o

Probs just leaves it at the very back and uses it to heal or something

IcyWave
05-28-2011, 06:06 AM
Probs just leaves it at the very back and uses it to heal or something

I bet they kill every single mob to get the FA to pass.

chainlock
05-28-2011, 11:40 AM
I bet they kill every single mob to get the FA to pass.

If you let someone else lead the mobs don't hit you, just like any other dungeon. During boss fights you just sit far away and heal.

MamaMiaYoe
05-29-2011, 07:03 PM
even still. passing through that semi square electric room wont save naked FA.

Chippo
05-29-2011, 07:13 PM
even still. passing through that semi square electric room wont save naked FA.

i think tangs use a Summon of Heroes scroll on the FA when they get to Tyrant's room. as long as the FA stays out of Tyrant/Leth Tyrant's attack range, a naked FA still would prove useful with his/her heals.

chainlock
05-29-2011, 07:22 PM
even still. passing through that semi square electric room wont save naked FA.

Just don't get hit in that room. Plenty of videos on the internet that show how to pass it.

Cathy
05-29-2011, 07:27 PM
an FA can outrange tyrant if the FB keeps root and darkness up o.o no reason an FA can't attack without getting hit.

ctwo
05-29-2011, 10:50 PM
i wouldn't be worried about tyrants range vs FA's... i'm more worried about the dirty bugs that spawn on his 2nd form ^_^

EzSeleneEz
05-30-2011, 08:01 AM
i wouldn't be worried about tyrants range vs FA's... i'm more worried about the dirty bugs that spawn on his 2nd form ^_^

the ones that dont hit you if your on the dark brown strip? ;)

SemiAutoMatic
05-30-2011, 08:28 AM
the ones that dont hit you if your on the dark brown strip? ;)

;);)

MamaMiaYoe
05-30-2011, 04:00 PM
Just don't get hit in that room. Plenty of videos on the internet that show how to pass it.

I want naked FA on the video not random people coz I can run and pass through it with my FA.
I want naked FA to try use FS pt buff SS and spam heal at the middle once SS gets destroyed and heal and make his way to the end of the curve. Thats what I wanna see.

chainlock
05-30-2011, 04:08 PM
I want naked FA on the video not random people coz I can run and pass through it with my FA.
I want naked FA to try use FS pt buff SS and spam heal at the middle once SS gets destroyed and heal and make his way to the end of the curve. Thats what I wanna see.

Naked wiz do it in a few.

Why would you need ss or heals if people just learn how to pass it?

MamaMiaYoe
05-30-2011, 04:34 PM
>.> lets not compare other classes. I am giving out my insights about FA survival through my own experience. From my 37 runs with parties in and out of guild... Ive developed a "realistic" conclusive fact that a FA who lack the defense/defense rate will have hard time in that dungeon. Its about the readers, and what they should expect in that dungeon. its not about bragging that I can do this with ease. There may be safety precautions using spots, but realistically, theres no way you can escape the huge damage and so you have to be careful.

Next time stop confusing... or for the lack of a better word, mislead people, telling them that its easy and a naked FA can run it. At least not until smeone proves to me by showing a video that a naked FA can pass through it.

Def, Def rate and hp is definitely a factor each OSM /Terra grace build FA stat wise should understand. I was once a martial FA with 735 defense and I know this for a fact.


Like Ive said your heals will be vital for your party's survival, you'd do better supporting rather than attacking and receiving huge blows from the mobs/bosses.

chainlock
05-30-2011, 06:43 PM
>.> lets not compare other classes. I am giving out my insights about FA survival through my own experience. From my 37 runs with parties in and out of guild... Ive developed a "realistic" conclusive fact that a FA who lack the defense/defense rate will have hard time in that dungeon. Its about the readers, and what they should expect in that dungeon. its not about bragging that I can do this with ease. There may be safety precautions using spots, but realistically, theres no way you can escape the huge damage and so you have to be careful.

Next time stop confusing... or for the lack of a better word, mislead people, telling them that its easy and a naked FA can run it. At least not until smeone proves to me by showing a video that a naked FA can pass through it.

Def, Def rate and hp is definitely a factor each OSM /Terra grace build FA stat wise should understand. I was once a martial FA with 735 defense and I know this for a fact.


Like Ive said your heals will be vital for your party's survival, you'd do better supporting rather than attacking and receiving huge blows from the mobs/bosses.

I don't think anyone was expecting the FA to do damage in previous posts.

It's not confusing or misleading to say a naked FA can run FT2 easily. It might take a few runs to learn the spots, but if someone really cares it's not hard to learn.

I don't usually get the opportunity to be the FA in the parties I run with, but I'll try to get some friends together and make my own naked video soon. For now people can use these 2 videos to learn the basics.
http://www.xfire.com/video/3649f7/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBN4Q6Dz21Y&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

MamaMiaYoe
05-30-2011, 07:57 PM
Need video of naked FA. tyvm

infiCathi
05-30-2011, 08:22 PM
Need video of naked FA. tyvm

lol.

does s.tit count as a naked vid?

first run was in that.

chainlock
05-30-2011, 08:29 PM
Need video of naked FA. tyvm

I'll get to it eventually, but what's so different about any other class being naked and doing that hall? It's the same for everyone.

MamaMiaYoe
05-31-2011, 02:27 AM
1. i dont got fraps
2. go ask cathy to show u -.- shes practically naked, and u do know the lightning have a lil pause after a few waves so u can heal and move a bit once its off and spam heal agian once its up
I know. Cathy is not practically naked :) LOL
I want a naked FA (no armors) running through the thing, see if he can make it. :) kthnx