View Full Version : Ok one more time AMP OR DAMAGE!!
Daedgo
07-10-2011, 08:58 PM
Ok i need to know something, cuz i see all the threads and all the stuff about damg/amp etc..etc.. really i need ppl who can give me a good explanation about what to do with a FA double Amp orbs +11 or more? or double Damage Orbs+11 or more? or Damg/amp +11 or more? if any of u guys had made the test of the changes of the base attk with each combination, and wich one is the most convenient.
Also if somebody has tryed the new orbs topaz 2slots/7%amp, does it worth it??
PC damg weps work? shoot i want to be clear at this!! XD
TY ALL!! ^^
Daedgo
07-10-2011, 09:24 PM
bump
Daedgo
07-10-2011, 09:25 PM
bump+1
MamaMiaYoe
07-11-2011, 04:58 AM
The reason why amp was preferred by most FA before is because crit shot and non-crit/base damage are greater than a 10% crit damage orb. [10 more damage to a player, 100 more to mob.]
A +10 2slot forcium orb does greater crits and -100pve/-10pvp less in non crits compared to a +11 7% amp forcium orb.
+11 2 slot 20% forcium orb>+11 magic amp orbs.
FA magic attack is very important. +11 forcium is strongly advisable. for non crit and bm damage.
Daedgo
07-14-2011, 06:11 PM
Ty miavii
Slowpoke
07-14-2011, 07:48 PM
i prefer amp because the only time i will be using combo will be in pvp.
in war i will ever be using guns or hopefully a leg weapon
in dungeons i will be with a wizard and be in bm2
so :>
just get all the cd u want and use magic master like forever! lol, while ur at it, use the 30 m.amp one
amp vs cd and even mix discussion will be pertty much pointless...everyone has his own opinion
IcyWave
07-15-2011, 04:52 AM
Ok i need to know something, cuz i see all the threads and all the stuff about damg/amp etc..etc.. really i need ppl who can give me a good explanation about what to do with a FA double Amp orbs +11 or more? or double Damage Orbs+11 or more? or Damg/amp +11 or more? if any of u guys had made the test of the changes of the base attk with each combination, and wich one is the most convenient.
Also if somebody has tryed the new orbs topaz 2slots/7%amp, does it worth it??
PC damg weps work? shoot i want to be clear at this!! XD
TY ALL!! ^^
Just use x2+11 2 slot orbs...FA needs base..and CD 50amp is enough.
Just use x2+11 2 slot orbs...FA needs base..and CD 50amp is enough.
I just worked out that if I used 2x Forcy Orb +11 [2 slot], I'd only have 44% amp.
I'll probably be getting a magic amp rune and paying close attention to getting that to level 4 a.s.a.p.
Would 44% amp be enough though, or would you recommend another combo (1xCD and 1xamp, 2x amp)?
MamaMiaYoe
07-15-2011, 05:04 AM
Ive been with my friend Han to test all these orbs throughout our stay in this game. :)
a +10 forcy 20% dmge does more crits than a +11 forcy 7% amp.
But its not really a big difference, just wanted to tell what does more and what does not.
MamaMiaYoe
07-15-2011, 05:10 AM
I just worked out that if I used 2x Forcy Orb +11 [2 slot], I'd only have 44% amp.
I'll probably be getting a magic amp rune and paying close attention to getting that to level 4 a.s.a.p.
Would 44% amp be enough though, or would you recommend another combo (1xCD and 1xamp, 2x amp)?
ofcourse u need magic amp rune and all the other runes that will increase ur damage. Reason why +11 forcium are a plus is because of the magic attack gain.
High magic attack = High FA damage.
ofcourse u need magic amp rune and all the other runes that will increase ur damage. Reason why +11 forcium are a plus is because of the magic attack gain.
High magic attack = High FA damage.
Do you know what's a good price to buy magic amp runes for?
I see one in AH now for 210, but that seems a bit pricey.
Also, is 2x Forcy Orb +11 [7% m.amp] really that bad?
I was considering just getting 2 amp orbs because it's just so much cheaper.
Ive been with my friend Han to test all these orbs throughout our stay in this game. :)
a +10 forcy 20% dmge does more crits than a +11 forcy 7% amp.
But its not really a big difference, just wanted to tell what does more and what does not.
yea that's why u use amp lol, yet u preach cd miavi, u sure confuse me....been trolled before into getting the more expensive 2 slot or 20 cd db...iwthout enough magic ur guns I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥...unless u wanna pvp all ur life, then by all means load up on cd...sheesh....mix is the only way to go, im still sure about that. that way u dont have to rely on runes, magic pots, pets whatnot...and dont compare orbs with diffrent plus cuz we all know mattk (or attk as in other classes) is important in order for ur mamp to really kick in. Same goes with our cr which is easy to get (if u have less than 50 there's something wrong with u); must be decent for all ur cd to be justified. That's the last ima tell what I think. Leave it at that.
MamaMiaYoe
07-15-2011, 06:16 AM
you dont know what my orbs are at the moment my dear. If you still think im at 7% mgic amp. sure why not LOL
MamaMiaYoe
07-15-2011, 06:20 AM
Do you know what's a good price to buy magic amp runes for?
I see one in AH now for 210, but that seems a bit pricey.
Also, is 2x Forcy Orb +11 [7% m.amp] really that bad?
I was considering just getting 2 amp orbs because it's just so much cheaper.
Not bad! >< Im not saying its bad dont get me wrong. Its good.
But you also have to know that 20% is better dmge
you dont know what my orbs are at the moment my dear. If you still think im at 7% mgic amp. sure why not LOL
u still confuse me...that's why i stopped reading ur advice...if i know ur one of them leading people into spending more for weaps they won't have any use for later lol...even in ur guide before, u didnt dwell into accessories and weapons, cuz u know well that's a mtter of preference and as such is in the realm of opinion. Like i said, to each his own.
wish we could find a way someday to validate these differing opinions. Seeing as ur in a diffrent planet lol, no way that gonna happen.
Not bad! >< Im not saying its bad dont get me wrong. Its good.
But you also have to know that 20% is better dmge
Is it worth the extra 300-400m though?
20cd > 7amp end of discussion
never should u compare items at different pluses or else my 40cd+15 lapis orb > 7/40 forcy orb+0
oh someone with suspect deductive skill butt in i see. lol
MamaMiaYoe
07-15-2011, 06:37 AM
u still confuse me...that's why i stopped reading ur advice...if i know ur one of them leading people into spending more for weaps they won't have any use for later lol...even in ur guide before, u didnt dwell into accessories and weapons, cuz u know well that's a mtter of preference and as such is in the realm of opinion. Like i said, to each his own.
wish we could find a way someday to validate these differing opinions. Seeing as ur in a diffrent planet lol, no way that gonna happen.
what I say dont come out from nothing, its all been tested, Its not my purpose to convince, that wouldnt be advising.
You continue to stick with mixed because it is obviously what your gears are atm. Deny it, but the obvious fact or for the lack of a better word latent truth permeates from your contradictions. Mix will never be better compared to x2 forcium 2 slot. Its a fact.
MamaMiaYoe
07-15-2011, 06:44 AM
If you want your amp forcium to beat a forcium orb 20% damage
Its either u get a 20/7
a 16/7
or
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/8530/miaviorbs.jpg
Miavii, how much did that cost you?
ZetsubouSensei
07-15-2011, 07:15 AM
That looks... Awfully alot my amP orb from like 3 yrs ago o.0 did that come from venus?
MamaMiaYoe
07-15-2011, 07:18 AM
Its very old, well not very but just old, no its been bought from mercury, its Hans famous 14% amp orb
MamaMiaYoe
07-15-2011, 09:51 AM
hi o,o
ZetsubouSensei
07-15-2011, 10:07 AM
And where he get it from o.0
Daedgo
07-15-2011, 09:10 PM
i should totally go for 2 sloted forcium, thats it
IcyWave
07-16-2011, 12:54 PM
i should totally go for 2 sloted forcium, thats it
just go for x2 2 slot orbs+11/9 if you can get ur hands on 40CD topaz +11forcy orb would be good...
and Mia is using +12/13 forcy orb and +15 sig
leadamean
07-16-2011, 02:29 PM
iv wanted to know if 7 amp 20 dmg topaz wld be good for an FA staying in t2. bc iv been thinking about mking one for t2 while i lvl my wa more. wld that be the orb i shld get for t2? and ya i know its t2 but o well its easy honor and i like to war
MamaMiaYoe
07-16-2011, 03:08 PM
iv wanted to know if 7 amp 20 dmg topaz wld be good for an FA staying in t2. bc iv been thinking about mking one for t2 while i lvl my wa more. wld that be the orb i shld get for t2? and ya i know its t2 but o well its easy honor and i like to war
Its a good orb, but it has to be +'ed higher than +11, its OP for tier 2.