Astral Bow in War

[Cathy]

When an FA equips a legacy weapon, we should still keep rate bonus from Astral Bow. It'd be nice to actually gain 15 rate from legacy weapon like every other class, instead of only 3.

[doomer123]

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[Cathy]

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[doomer123]

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[Cathy]

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[doomer123]

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[Cathy]

Tiffany is fat

[doomer123]

Lies!
Fa need dat nerf lul k

[jimbo]

When an FA equips a legacy weapon, we should still keep rate bonus from Astral Bow. It'd be nice to actually gain 15 rate from legacy weapon like every other class, instead of only 3.

that would be kinda pushing it

[Cathy]

Given merg, rol2, kred, and 7 rate helm an FA stands at 57 rate. A WI with the same gear would have 45. Yet in war if given a legacy weapon, they both have 60 rate. Losing the 12 rate bonus from Astral Bow is a stupid nerf because we now sit at the same rate as a WI/WA/BL but WI and WA have more base, and BL still gains rate from skills.

FB already have stupid high rate from blade buffs and yet they still gain the full 15 rate bonus from leg. A FB with no bm can get away with using no rate rings at all and just get all their rate from blade buffs and leg, but an FA can't take any rate rings off if we want to keep over 50 rate. Some FB complain about how they lose rate in bm1, but a FB with leg+bm1 has the same rate as an FA with leg.

If every other class gains 15 rate from leg, including FB, and FA gains only 3, then FA stands the least to gain from getting a legacy weapon. Tell me how that's fair.

[CandiCoatted]

if a fa has a leg you should be spammimg aura anyways, that should put you at max rate but i guess you mean out of aura......

[Cathy]

regardless of max rate, if you aura, you'd still have the same rate as a wi/wa/bl if they were in aura, without the base of a wiz/wa or the added rate and cd on bl skills.

[CandiCoatted]

regardless of max rate, if you aura, you'd still have the same rate as a wi/wa/bl if they were in aura, without the base of a wiz/wa or the added rate and cd on bl skills.

guess its just your build bc im max with a leg without aura and with aura(then just switch rings)

[Halcy]

now you know how wiz feels w/o a astral weapon stats gain outside of war (:

[Daedgo]

Given merg, rol2, kred, and 7 rate helm an FA stands at 57 rate. A WI with the same gear would have 45. Yet in war if given a legacy weapon, they both have 60 rate. Losing the 12 rate bonus from Astral Bow is a stupid nerf because we now sit at the same rate as a WI/WA/BL but WI and WA have more base, and BL still gains rate from skills.

FB already have stupid high rate from blade buffs and yet they still gain the full 15 rate bonus from leg. A FB with no bm can get away with using no rate rings at all and just get all their rate from blade buffs and leg, but an FA can't take any rate rings off if we want to keep over 50 rate. Some FB complain about how they lose rate in bm1, but a FB with leg+bm1 has the same rate as an FA with leg.

If every other class gains 15 rate from leg, including FB, and FA gains only 3, then FA stands the least to gain from getting a legacy weapon. Tell me how that's fair.


+10000

[Cathy]

guess its just your build bc im max with a leg without aura and with aura(then just switch rings)

Build is beside the point. I have the same rate build as you, a merg, rol2, k red, so I'm 50/53, and 53/53 with a leg and no aura. My point is that you should be able to take rol2 off and replace that 15 rate with the 15 rate from leg. All other classes can do that except for FA because we gain only 3 rate from leg, and not 15.

[CandiCoatted]

Build is beside the point. I have the same rate build as you, a merg, rol2, k red, so I'm 50/53, and 53/53 with a leg and no aura. My point is that you should be able to take rol2 off and replace that 15 rate with the 15 rate from leg. All other classes can do that except for FA because we gain only 3 rate from leg, and not 15.

And what im saying is whats the point..... okay lets say you do use leg and switch ROL+2 for crit ring +1 or 2 *doesnt matter .... it will drop your rate right? you will gain 16 rate right back...

p.s build isnt beside the point not every fa in t5 have a kred or a second rol soo they would need the extra rate you are stating

[doomer123]

You're not in aura 24/7, so the rate benefit would help for those who don't aura/aura cd/don't need it.

[Cathy]

And what im saying is whats the point..... okay lets say you do use leg and switch ROL+2 for crit ring +1 or 2 *doesnt matter .... it will drop your rate right? you will gain 16 rate right back...

p.s build isnt beside the point not every fa in t5 have a kred or a second rol soo they would need the extra rate you are stating

The point isn't that FA can't reach their max crit rate. Max crit rate has absolutely nothing to do with this. It's the fact that FA is nerfed because our rate advantage over other classes is taken away.

If you were given a lv.170 of every class with absolutely no gear that gives rate (just buffs/astral weapon) here's what their rate would be:

WI/WA/BL would all have 5.
FA/FB/FS have 17/30/29 respectively, because these are the classes that have less base, and therefore have a rate advantage.

But if you gave them all a leg, WI/WA/BL/FA all have 20 rate while FB/FS has 45/44. How is this not nerfing FA?

[CandiCoatted]

You're not in aura 24/7, so the rate benefit would help for those who don't aura/aura cd/don't need it.
What is it like 20secs delayed time for aura?


The point isn't that FA can't reach their max crit rate. Max crit rate has absolutely nothing to do with this. It's the fact that FA is nerfed because our rate advantage over other classes is taken away.

If you were given a lv.170 of every class with absolutely no gear that gives rate (just buffs/astral weapon) here's what their rate would be:

WI/WA/BL would all have 5.
FA/FB/FS have 17/30/29 respectively, because these are the classes that have less base, and therefore have a rate advantage.

But if you gave them all a leg, WI/WA/BL/FA all have 20 rate while FB/FS has 45/44. How is this not nerfing FA?

i didnt say fa wasnt nerfed, im saying we wouldnt keep stats from astral bow bc a legacy isnt a astral bow lmao had to have at myself for that comment
but yes cathy i know what you mean.

[Cathy]

What is it like 20secs delayed time for aura?



i didnt say fa wasnt nerfed, im saying we wouldnt keep stats from astral bow bc a legacy isnt a astral bow lmao had to have at myself for that comment
but yes cathy i know what you mean.

Which is why I suggested this be changed, in the suggestion corner.

[CandiCoatted]

Which is why I suggested this be changed, in the suggestion corner.

sorry miss cathy! :D

[Shinji]

Fa are op
k thx

[Dakaka]

cathy just a retard

[Cathy]

Cool story bro

[ihazshield]

longest range, highest dps, good aoe (so good in war), and good enough hp/def ... why r u complaining

[ForumHavoc]

ye n fb should keep rate buffs in bm1, wiz need crushing blade, wa sword should giv em rate, bl skills should ger 100% cd inc and 50% rate inc, nd fs need fb buffs along with crushing blade


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[Milk]

hyuna number one ok

[Halcy]

just give wiz astral weapon jajajaja

[SoooRite]

longest range, highest dps, good aoe (so good in war), and good enough hp/def ... why r u complaining

nothing better to do
and you get 16rate 15%rate from leg and 1%added from lvl 1 astral bow

[SoooRite]

The point isn't that FA can't reach their max crit rate. Max crit rate has absolutely nothing to do with this. It's the fact that FA is nerfed because our rate advantage over other classes is taken away.

your just being greedy over rate one of the updates already gave fa more rate now i guess you crit less or w/e and get pwned your complaining about rate... what cassey was saying i understand that also FAs would mostly be in aura and yes its a 20sec delay so you can switch up rings are w/e

[doomer123]

your just being greedy over rate one of the updates already gave fa more rate now i guess you crit less or w/e and get pwned your complaining about rate... what cassey was saying i understand that also FAs would mostly be in aura and yes its a 20sec delay so you can switch up rings are w/e

Are you cassey/cassey's stalker or some sht?
Soorite to her rescue!!!!!!
inb4rage/denial/flaming/lousy comeback as usual not worth replying to

[SoooRite]

Are you cassey/cassey's stalker or some sht?
Soorite to her rescue!!!!!!
inb4rage/denial/flaming/lousy comeback as usual not worth replying to

Are you cathy's stalker or some sht, done with mat?
Doomer to the rescue!!!!! <<seewhatididthere?

and no i just agree with her its common sense if you really look at it. whats the point in extra rate if your suppose to be spamming aura, and if you out of aura with a leg just running around pass the leg to somone who knowshowtouseit
and yeah might be a lousy comeback but your still gonna reply back to it :cool:

[CandiCoatted]

Are you cassey/cassey's stalker or some sht?
Soorite to her rescue!!!!!!
inb4rage/denial/flaming/lousy comeback as usual not worth replying to

Why would you ask that lol this is a very hypocritical post.
But you two are entertaining keep going

[Cathy]

Are you cathy's stalker or some sht, done with mat?
Doomer to the rescue!!!!! <<seewhatididthere?

and no i just agree with her its common sense if you really look at it. whats the point in extra rate if your suppose to be spamming aura, and if you out of aura with a leg just running around pass the leg to somone who knowshowtouseit
and yeah might be a lousy comeback but your still gonna reply back to it :cool:

It's stupid to say that you can just aura to get more rate because fact is you're still gaining less rate than every other class, and therefore need more rings for rate at all times than another class like FB. Sure you can say if you aura, then you can take rol off. But if FA didn't lose that 12 rate bonus you could Aura, and take Rol2/merg off.

[SoooRite]

It's stupid to say that you can just aura to get more rate because fact is you're still gaining less rate than every other class, and therefore need more rings for rate at all times than another class like FB. Sure you can say if you aura, then you can take rol off. But if FA didn't lose that 12 rate bonus you could Aura, and take Rol2/merg off.

ookay every class gain 15%from leg and every class has there advantage but you pin pointing rate, usally ppl will switch one rate ring off for more cd or for rox+10

but you want to lose 30rate........

[Cathy]

ookay every class gain 15%from leg and every class has there advantage but you pin pointing rate, usally ppl will switch one rate ring off for more cd or for rox+10

but you want to lose 30rate........

FA with merg+rol2 is what you'd usually see. You Aura for 20 rate, take 1 rol2 off.

I am suggesting that FA keeps that 12 rate bonus so you don't need that rol2 at all. Then Aura for 20 rate and take merg off. Losing 30 rate doesn't matter when 12+20 is 32 derp.

[SoooRite]

FA with merg+rol2 is what you'd usually see. You Aura for 20 rate, take 1 rol2 off.

I am suggesting that FA keeps that 12 rate bonus so you don't need that rol2 at all. Then Aura for 20 rate and take merg off. Losing 30 rate doesn't matter when 12+20 is 32 derp.

first off aura gives 16 rate but let me correct that for you 12+16= is 28 rederped<<is that what you mean?

and if that does happen they would give the bouns to fs to bc that have a astral wep also.... thought of that?

[ForumHavoc]

Well, someone wants something handed to them.

Highest range, Fastest DPS, ability to remove root, and give it 12% more raw base more than everyone else. Smart Hur hur hur.

S> Free handouts.

Or you can hack war like XI.

[SoooRite]

Well, someone wants something handed to them.

Highest range, Fastest DPS, ability to remove root, and give it 12% more raw base more than everyone else. Smart Hur hur hur.

S> Free handouts.

Or you can hack war like XI.

Another way of putting it yes

[Halcy]

Well, someone wants something handed to them.

Highest range, Fastest DPS, ability to remove root, and give it 12% more raw base more than everyone else. Smart Hur hur hur.

S> Free handouts.

Or you can hack war like XI.

lolwut???????????

[ForumHavoc]

lolwut???????????

do you want one or not. its 0alz :(

[Shinji]

how2hack

[Cathy]

first off aura gives 16 rate but let me correct that for you 12+16= is 28 rederped<<is that what you mean?

and if that does happen they would give the bouns to fs to bc that have a astral wep also.... thought of that?

Aura gives 20 rate at 180. And 20+12 is 32 derp.

[Cathy]

Well, someone wants something handed to them.

Highest range, Fastest DPS, ability to remove root, and give it 12% more raw base more than everyone else. Smart Hur hur hur.

S> Free handouts.

Or you can hack war like XI.

If FA have this outside of war, why should it be taken away during war?

[Shinji]

bm2 spammers

[SoooRite]

Aura gives 20 rate at 180. And 20+12 is 32 derp.

yeah another point your not 180 and when did i say anything about 180... so i used 170stats


understand?

[Cathy]

yeah another point your not 180 and when did i say anything about 180... so i used 170stats


understand?

You said 16 rate, 170 aura gives 19 rate. You're just a 140 nub who doesn't know what they're talking about and tried to pass off your mistake as if you actually know something.

[SantaClaus]

hehe i know nothing

[Bumba]

Coming from an fa with stats as bad as yours I can see why you want extra free stats.

[ForumHavoc]

If FA have this outside of war, why should it be taken away during war?

It's not taken away. Your astral bow crit rate is determined by the orb/crystal grade you use(Phery, Topaz, Forci etc). The higher the grade the more rate you receive. A legacy doesn't count as a grade of orb/crystal , does it? Nope. If it did you'd get even more rate, maybe 15%+.

A legacy weapon is just a special equalizer weapon. You should be glad you get an extra 1 rate over anyone else.



Coming from an fa with stats as bad as yours I can see why you want extra free stats.

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[Shinji]

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[doomer123]

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[Shinji]

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[doomer123]

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[ForumHavoc]

Dooma tell XI to check forum inbox!

[doomer123]

He's in class.

[ForumHavoc]

Okay then.

[Shinji]

Hihi your powa back
yeah they fixed it kaka