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ipawn2
03-05-2012, 07:43 PM
what should be the lvl of EDC,SC and meteorite??

is it good to put them all in lv 20?

ray9292
03-05-2012, 09:31 PM
i put edc 12, Meteorite 9 and SC 15, i dun like make them 20 coz its cooldown too long :X

Sprite
03-05-2012, 09:57 PM
d0 u no u r cute?


but forreals, 20 all

ray9292
03-05-2012, 10:02 PM
u maxed them? :X
but cd is too long :X

ipawn2
03-05-2012, 10:11 PM
ill try which one will work best thx

ipawn2
03-17-2012, 07:25 PM
okay,,, if i put all skills on lvl 20 please tell me the skills i should use when im in bm2

SemiAutoMatic
03-17-2012, 08:27 PM
okay,,, if i put all skills on lvl 20 please tell me the skills i should use when im in bm2
Lol don't listen to these people, lvl 12 edc and meteorite 15 sc make your own bm2 bar, that's a little secret for some pros.

7-Up
03-18-2012, 09:06 AM
I have them all at 18 for cd purposes during bm2, increases dps. But I also don't use bm2 anymore so...back to 20 for me!

ankoun2232
03-19-2012, 09:29 AM
edc 12 sc 12 met 15

reason
a perfect stun lock with decent dmg
edc 12 sc 12 stone canon 20 fire canon 20 energy field (i forgot what level i think 9 so u can spam it in case).
and aqua canon at the end in case u need it

lvl 12 edc and sc cool down pretty quick so it also gets spammed in bm2

MET 15 isnt to bad it takes a little longer to cool down but it hits as hard if not harder than sc at 15 so that becomes ur finisher for pvp

as for a bm2 bar i think mine is

sc12 edc12 met 15 artic field 18 hail storm 20 lightning canon 20 stone canon 20 fire canon 20 chain explosion 20and aqua canon 20

i dont think it rotates through the whole sequence the first time it usually takes like 2 rounds to reach the end i find that this ensures good dps. so far i have not had any problem anywhere with that bm2

pvp goes as usual terra lance 20 fire lance 20 aqua lance 20 stone canon 20 fire canon 20(MAYBE IF THE PERSONS HP ISNT LOW ENOUGH) and met 15 as finisher

Sprite
03-19-2012, 10:57 PM
Lol don't listen to these people, lvl 12 edc and meteorite 15 sc make your own bm2 bar, that's a little secret for some pros.

uhh... no

hellomydear
03-20-2012, 12:14 AM
uhh... no

+1, that is why SemiAutoMatic will always be a sped.

Spamzor
03-20-2012, 05:29 AM
Lol don't listen to these people, lvl 12 edc and meteorite 15 sc make your own bm2 bar, that's a little secret for some pros.

lmao ... ehh.. no -__-

xBUHOIx
03-20-2012, 07:34 AM
what should be the lvl of EDC,SC and meteorite??

is it good to put them all in lv 20?

EDC, SC and Meteorite must be 9 lvl. Read Ratza guide on eu.

SemiAutoMatic
03-20-2012, 08:11 AM
lmao ... ehh.. no -__-
You got something better?

Sprite
03-20-2012, 12:25 PM
You got something better?

all lvl 18/20

just gonna end it here

lvl 9 skills:
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8131/13876082.png

lvl 20 skills:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8097/91283813.png

see who has the higher dps :) right click > view image

424976 avg dps from lvl 20 skills
411701 avg dps from lvl 9 skills

Cathy
03-20-2012, 12:32 PM
right click > view image


brah I use Google Chrome, not Firefox :(

SemiAutoMatic
03-20-2012, 12:32 PM
all lvl 18/20

just gonna end it here

lvl 9 skills:
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8131/13876082.png

lvl 20 skills:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8097/91283813.png

see who has the higher dps :) right click > view image

424976 avg dps from lvl 20 skills
411701 avg dps from lvl 9 skills
Woah what the hell.....

Ok thats nice Xi. Thanks for the info.

hellomydear
03-20-2012, 01:34 PM
Woah what the hell.....

Ok thats nice Xi. Thanks for the info.

how long have you been playing? whatajoke.

@Xi - Spur mentioned it all the time.

Exception
03-20-2012, 02:31 PM
Don't tell me the Korean WIs are failures because they don't have their EDC, Met, or SC at lv20.
Here is proof, check the WI BM2 at 7:53 on Ispita, notice the cycle of her skills.

http://youtu.be/4Tl9BsjgwWA

Basing on DPS is nice but it's never true because you cannot ever have a full 90s BM. In most situation, you always have to position yourself first before a fight.
My conclusion, there is no ideal levels for WI skills. I suggest you put them at low levels first (lv9 or 12), keep playing and experience and choose what is more suitable for you.

SemiAutoMatic
03-20-2012, 03:51 PM
how long have you been playing? Imajoke.

@Xi - Spur mentioned how much I used to slob on her knob..
kk keep trying to flame me, sped.


Don't tell me the Korean WIs are failures because they don't have their EDC, Met, or SC at lv20.
Here is proof, check the WI BM2 at 7:53 on Ispita, notice the cycle of her skills.

http://youtu.be/4Tl9BsjgwWA

Basing on DPS is nice but it's never true because you cannot ever have a full 90s BM. In most situation, you always have to position yourself first before a fight.
My conclusion, there is no ideal levels for WI skills. I suggest you put them at low levels first (lv9 or 12), keep playing and experience and choose what is more suitable for you.
It's whatever I damn sure as hell wouldent have my sc at level 20, people do their own bm2 combos. I have my own ways others have their ways.

Sprite
03-20-2012, 04:30 PM
Don't tell me the Korean WIs are failures because they don't have their EDC, Met, or SC at lv20.
Here is proof, check the WI BM2 at 7:53 on Ispita, notice the cycle of her skills.


Basing on DPS is nice but it's never true because you cannot ever have a full 90s BM. In most situation, you always have to position yourself first before a fight.
My conclusion, there is no ideal levels for WI skills. I suggest you put them at low levels first (lv9 or 12), keep playing and experience and choose what is more suitable for you.

1. koreans would have more dps if they lvl 20d their skills
2. if ur not gonna have the full 90 sec duration of bm2 then that proves my point further that lvl 20 skills are better since ull be moving around anyways waiting for the skills to cd

maybe u havent been here long but u should give this a read
http://forum.cabal.com/showthread.php?9986-Learn2Bm2/page31

xDromarx
03-20-2012, 05:13 PM
Oh look, this is only the 109381293087409827423 time that I've proved that lvl 20 skills are inferior to other levels while in bm2.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1hcgp5.png

http://i39.tinypic.com/6joz0o.png

Dps differences are more exaggerated in aura.

Sprite
03-20-2012, 05:33 PM
Oh look, this is only the 109381293087409827423 time that I've proved that lvl 20 skills are inferior to other levels while in bm2.

http://i42.tinypic.com/1hcgp5.png

http://i39.tinypic.com/6joz0o.png

Dps differences are more exaggerated in aura.

magnets, how do they work?


lvl 9 skills:
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8131/13876082.png

lvl 20 skills:
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8097/91283813.png

Exception
03-20-2012, 07:04 PM
1. koreans would have more dps if they lvl 20d their skills
2. if ur not gonna have the full 90 sec duration of bm2 then that proves my point further that lvl 20 skills are better since ull be moving around anyways waiting for the skills to cd

maybe u havent been here long but u should give this a read
http://forum.cabal.com/showthread.php?9986-Learn2Bm2/page31

I agree with you. I don't say you are wrong. I just want to point out that using that type of calculation on average DPS to prove which certain skill level is better will never be true.
LOL, I've been here seen '08. And that thread, I even commented on it. I followed that thread pretty well. Thanks to Spur and LastHour argument. I learned quite a bit (I was originally a WI). They are smart, I agree but there are so many factors affects their calculation that they can never put in it. Their calculation is just an ideal. In the end, it's just pointless.
I'm not here to argue which is better. I concluded in last post. Follow that.

twig
03-25-2012, 10:42 AM
just curious, should edc sc and metor be pushed to lvl 20, which skills should then be compromised to max these 3?

Wendys
03-26-2012, 11:21 AM
just curious, should edc sc and metor be pushed to lvl 20, which skills should then be compromised to max these 3?

list your current skills and lvls

twig
03-27-2012, 03:35 AM
edc sc af metor vac hs lvl 18, lc fc sc ce lvl 20 weaken lvl 19

Wendys
03-27-2012, 07:27 AM
lower weaken lol

twig
03-27-2012, 07:49 AM
even with weaken lowered to lvl 1 there is only enough skill points to max 2 of the 3 skills

Wendys
03-27-2012, 09:51 AM
do you have sharpness or resist intention? sharpness can be done away with completely, and resist intention can be lowered as much as needed since the % resists do not change. do you have ef at a high lvl? you can lower this as well if you do. if you've already done all of this, then take a lvl or 2 off of one of your weaker lances.

ankoun2232
03-28-2012, 11:26 AM
do you have sharpness or resist intention? sharpness can be done away with completely, and resist intention can be lowered as much as needed since the % resists do not change. do you have ef at a high lvl? you can lower this as well if you do. if you've already done all of this, then take a lvl or 2 off of one of your weaker lances.


basic run down of my skills
ALL POINTS ARE USED

level 12 edc
level 12 sc
level 18 af
level 15 meteorite
SHARPNESS level 20 HELPS others
obv all buffs level 20
NO RESIST INTENTION
lances all 20 terra fire aqua
canons all 20 stone fire aqua lightning(only to be used in bm2)
EF 9 < can be spammed for sun lock (crap damage but has saved me)
skills for bm2 vacum and chain explosion both level 20
weakness level 4 for mobing and just to use ALL MY points. Might as well make use of it while it sits there

i could always get rid of sharpness and just get something like acid trap or another canon but i am starting to duo dungeons with someone alot more and every little bit of atk for them helps.

Wendys
03-28-2012, 02:23 PM
pro wiz dont have sharpness

ankoun2232
03-28-2012, 02:42 PM
pro wiz dont have sharpness
not gonna say im pro

but
u go solo fi and run stuff with a gimp sword class

gg

Wendys
03-28-2012, 02:47 PM
soloing fi would mean i'm not running with a gimp sword class. what's your point?

ankoun2232
03-28-2012, 09:03 PM
soloing fi would mean i'm not running with a gimp sword class. what's your point?

point is u will never solo fi so u might as well help others while u duo it

im not saying i like sharpness bc frankly i see no point to it for me but for others it does make a difference.

ankoun2232
03-28-2012, 09:04 PM
i just choose to at least give some atk to people.

but i actually might dlete it soon

Wendys
03-28-2012, 10:06 PM
lol. i actually can solo fi, and anyone i bring wouldn't need sharpness at all. there is no dungeon in cabal where the extra attack is absolutely needed to finish the dungeon, thus rendering it useless to carry.

Kuja
03-29-2012, 12:29 AM
ppl gonna be pretty upset when u dont give them sharpness in mo



owait u dont go mo

Hilal
03-29-2012, 03:02 AM
@ankoun Flamers will always gonna be flamers. and you pro wizards. why don't u get your pro staff and stick it in your asses so u feel pro enuf, try to keep ur pro mode ego for yourselves and talk if u have constructive talk (a thing I doubt u will do for extremely complicated mental issues about being pro :))
I expect pro players to discuss and give logic not to flame. but duh, here another point for you mentally disturbed pro wizards to flame about.
For bm2 skills. I , the non pro wizard, guess that someone might pop up with a more creative build for them after introducing bm3 because we might not use it as much as we gonna use bm3. bm2 anyway still counts, i use it in hazard valley to vamp. (i might have some "pro" wizard here telling me i cause he uses bm3 or even aura lol, so in advance good for u i'm not pro)
oh btw, i have sharpness :)

Wendys
03-29-2012, 07:03 AM
clearly you dont know how to read

ankoun2232
03-29-2012, 08:34 AM
lol. i actually can solo fi, and anyone i bring wouldn't need sharpness at all. there is no dungeon in cabal where the extra attack is absolutely needed to finish the dungeon, thus rendering it useless to carry.

screen shot / video or it never happened

ankoun2232
03-29-2012, 08:35 AM
ppl gonna be pretty upset when u dont give them sharpness in mo



owait u dont go mo

lololol /smoked

RazorFlashy
04-01-2012, 08:02 AM
What levels edc, sp and meteorite, for a bm2 with 6 casts [12 skills, 6 pairs]
plz help