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DreamQuake16
08-21-2012, 06:54 PM
people get such insane rate AND damage? I mean if you look at the virus gaming things
http://www.virusgaming.net/cabal_na/
People in the top ranks of some classes have like 200 damage! how is this even possible.
I guess PC dmg weps and helm with 2 slots cd and extend with cr so but that's is still what 100? Maybe if the class has a cd buff. Then what? kred dmg rune and what else that makes it so high?

Lyro
08-21-2012, 09:17 PM
Weapon x2 (GS if your warrior) = 80 CD and 14 Rate. Helm can get 40 CD and 7 rate. Kred adds 10%, and we start with 20% base.(So far we have 80 + 40 + 10 + 20=150)Now since we have 21 rate currently, add in the 5% base rate, along with 3% from kred. 21 + 5 + 3 = 29%. Add merg or killian. 29 + 15(or 16 if killian) thats 44%. Now you can choose to add a RoL+2 (or RoL+1 if your less fortunate) adds 10~15 more rate, or you can keep the 44% rate, and go for 3x crit dmg rings. CR1x3 = 30%, CR2x3 = 45%, so add from previous 150: 150 + 30 (or 45 or any combination of CR1/CR2)=180~195. Consider if your a FS or FB who get rate buffs and CD buffs, this will surpass the 200% CD and 50%+ CR.

Hope that helped

cronic21
08-22-2012, 12:29 AM
Weapon x2 (GS if your warrior) = 80 CD and 14 Rate. Helm can get 40 CD and 7 rate. Kred adds 10%, and we start with 20% base.(So far we have 80 + 40 + 10 + 20=150)Now since we have 21 rate currently, add in the 5% base rate, along with 3% from kred. 21 + 5 + 3 = 29%. Add merg or killian. 29 + 15(or 16 if killian) thats 44%. Now you can choose to add a RoL+2 (or RoL+1 if your less fortunate) adds 10~15 more rate, or you can keep the 44% rate, and go for 3x crit dmg rings. CR1x3 = 30%, CR2x3 = 45%, so add from previous 150: 150 + 30 (or 45 or any combination of CR1/CR2)=180~195. Consider if your a FS or FB who get rate buffs and CD buffs, this will surpass the 200% CD and 50%+ CR.

Hope that helped

not every1 has an 80gs tho. thats not the average.

Lyro
08-22-2012, 07:00 AM
not every1 has an 80gs tho. thats not the average.
May not be the average, but first post says "People in the top ranks." I think 80CD GS is for ppl in the top ranks.

Hikushiru
08-22-2012, 07:12 AM
Really crazy gear out there, and devoted players. It's very possible, though.

DreamQuake16
08-23-2012, 05:54 PM
Alright thanks for the info guys

Davynelord
08-24-2012, 06:56 AM
Weapon x2 (GS if your warrior) = 80 CD and 14 Rate. Helm can get 40 CD and 7 rate. Kred adds 10%, and we start with 20% base.(So far we have 80 + 40 + 10 + 20=150)Now since we have 21 rate currently, add in the 5% base rate, along with 3% from kred. 21 + 5 + 3 = 29%. Add merg or killian. 29 + 15(or 16 if killian) thats 44%. Now you can choose to add a RoL+2 (or RoL+1 if your less fortunate) adds 10~15 more rate, or you can keep the 44% rate, and go for 3x crit dmg rings. CR1x3 = 30%, CR2x3 = 45%, so add from previous 150: 150 + 30 (or 45 or any combination of CR1/CR2)=180~195. Consider if your a FS or FB who get rate buffs and CD buffs, this will surpass the 200% CD and 50%+ CR.

Hope that helped

Part in bold...max crit rate you can get from rings is 32%....

Lyro
08-24-2012, 09:57 AM
CR = Critical Ring not Critical Rate. The name of the rings for crit damage are called Critical Ring + x

cronic21
08-25-2012, 01:51 PM
CR = Critical Ring not Critical Rate. The name of the rings for crit damage are called Critical Ring + x

lol i loled here...guy doesnt know wat rol+1/2 is i guess...

Lyro
08-25-2012, 02:02 PM
lol i loled here...guy doesnt know wat rol+1/2 is i guess...
I lol'd at u for trying to correct me. Read the whole thing and u'll realize I was talking about CD. Learn 2 read?

cronic21
08-25-2012, 02:09 PM
I lol'd at u for trying to correct me. Read the whole thing and u'll realize I was talking about CD. Learn 2 read?

r u retarded? i was loling at the other guy* that quoted u "in bold cr etc" i was responding to u talkin bout him...learn to keep up?

Lyro
08-25-2012, 02:21 PM
O shiz ur right, my bad Z.z i thought u were the same guy lmao
U quoted me so I thought u were lol'ing at me =.=

cronic21
08-25-2012, 04:54 PM
O shiz ur right, my bad Z.z i thought u were the same guy lmao
U quoted me so I thought u were lol'ing at me =.=

lol np

Hikushiru
08-25-2012, 06:02 PM
Cronic, you dumb af? CR means Critical Ring. If we wanted to say anything about Critical Rate, then we would've said Ring of Luck..

-EDIT- Lol nevermind then.

Davynelord
08-27-2012, 10:11 AM
CR = Critical Ring not Critical Rate. The name of the rings for crit damage are called Critical Ring + x

OH my bad...hey, was late, or early for some (up for long hours straight makes for tired brain cells)....with a bunch of numbers in your post all jumbled together talking crit dmg and crit rate, makes it easy for a bit of confusion on my part...especially since the part I was referring to just says CRx3...whenever I see CR I automatically think crit rate, not crit ring...

As for the OP, it's fairly easy (but expensive) getting those high values....FS and FB probably have it the easiest....I mean technically if you wanted, FS can get 245 Crit Dmg and at least 53 crit Rate or more...but you'd be sacrificing lots of amp in that case...so not worth getting it that high.