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S|ivka
07-21-2010, 10:10 PM
Hi to all Fb's out there!

So : i got 2 very good drops this week . They are : Forci boots Fs with SSAMP ( From MF ( Parasited Minesota ) and Osm blade of Deathblow Pc Craft ( eod b2f from Jumar Cabro ) ! My question is: should i get an Osm blade of Deathblow Pc Craft and Topaz crystal of Deathblow Pc Craft ( 16%) or should i waiste it for something else considering that atm im wearing a Forci Blade +6 10 % cdi and a Forci crystal +6 7%SSAMP?

NewEra
07-22-2010, 03:33 AM
well it depends on your base atk is it high enough like is it 900+atk well best choice there is go with forcium blade s amp an lapis xtal an you can go with topaz xtal if you can get a good one like 36 cd

S|ivka
07-22-2010, 04:43 AM
Well, i can afford a pc craft topaz +7 but i was thinking of staying with my old weapons and get a teragrace +6/7 7%amp boots gloves and an eof +7!

S|ivka
07-22-2010, 04:44 AM
and my base attack is around 950 with forci blade and forci crystal both +6

S|ivka
07-22-2010, 04:51 AM
850*

S|ivka
07-23-2010, 10:44 AM
any other advice pls ?

Berserk_Fury
07-23-2010, 10:58 AM
One of the best weapon setups is forcium katana s.amp +7 and a lapis/topaz crystal or orb 40 dmg. You should work towards that.

Raid101
07-23-2010, 11:10 AM
^^ what he said

S|ivka
07-23-2010, 11:30 AM
k ty !

S|ivka
07-23-2010, 11:32 AM
but i can only get a lapis/topaz crystal 36% cdi!

Berserk_Fury
07-23-2010, 01:03 PM
Why can't you get a single slot with 16 dmg craft and extend to 40 dmg?

S|ivka
07-23-2010, 01:15 PM
so a single slot 16% craft for the crystal and the blade ? i like cdi more than amp so instead of buying forci kat 7%ssamp +7 ill do the same as the cry tyvm for the help

Berserk_Fury
07-23-2010, 02:40 PM
forcium katana with 7% s.amp > forcium katana 10% crit dmg no matter what. Also for forcium katana > blade for FBs.

LackofABetterName
07-23-2010, 09:32 PM
forcium katana with 7% s.amp > forcium katana 10% crit dmg no matter what. Also for forcium katana > blade for FBs.

+1

but if you get your hands on a +7 forcium blade, it doesnt mean its bad ofc.

Shinn
07-23-2010, 09:50 PM
i wanna try out a 40 dmg red osm Blade sometime but for now im liking the +7 s amp kat

S|ivka
07-24-2010, 12:48 AM
ill sell my forci blade 10 cdi and entend a pc craft osm blade

S|ivka
07-24-2010, 12:49 AM
i wanna try a 7amp 40 cdi forci blade xD

ForumHavoc
07-25-2010, 02:59 PM
You're cool.

AeonNathan
07-27-2010, 09:31 AM
Great info guys thank you.

Fishy
07-27-2010, 10:03 AM
i wanna try a 7amp 40 cdi forci blade xD

wtf you on man? o.o that's not even possible? XD

Deathlymonkey
07-27-2010, 10:56 AM
wtf you on man? o.o that's not even possible? XD

PC dmg with amp in a slot, crit dmg on the 2 others(extend) o.o

Fishy
07-27-2010, 11:59 AM
PC dmg with amp in a slot, crit dmg on the 2 others(extend) o.o

7amp/40dmg isnt possible on one weapon though unless it's a 2H!!! O_O Forci 7 amp in slot PC DB 16 dmg. lets assume that. 2nd slot has dmg, so 26 dmg, 3rd slot (assuming an SEHH was found) adds 5% dmg, makin it 31% o.o

Berserk_Fury
07-27-2010, 12:21 PM
7amp/40dmg isnt possible on one weapon though unless it's a 2H!!! O_O Forci 7 amp in slot PC DB 16 dmg. lets assume that. 2nd slot has dmg, so 26 dmg, 3rd slot (assuming an SEHH was found) adds 5% dmg, makin it 31% o.o

PC 16 dmg, 2 slot, 7% s.amp in first slot, crit dmg in second. Extend that and you get a 7 amp 40 dmg. It's probably impossible unless we start seeing crafted forcium drop with 2 slots.

Fishy
07-27-2010, 12:24 PM
PC 16 dmg, 2 slot, 7% s.amp in first slot, crit dmg in second. Extend that and you get a 7 amp 40 dmg. It's probably impossible unless we start seeing crafted forcium drop with 2 slots.

3rd slot doesnt give 10% dmg........its not even possible to get 40% dmg if your first slot isnt CDI

Error
07-27-2010, 01:10 PM
3rd slot doesnt give 10% dmg........its not even possible to get 40% dmg if your first slot isnt CDI

3 slots of Crit Dmg only give 25 dmg. But this is a 16% Dmg CRAFT with 7% Amp in one slot, 24% Dmg in two slots. Placement of the slots have nothing to do with it, otherwise 7rate/40dmg weapons with rate in first slot wouldn't be in demand.

IBladE
07-27-2010, 01:32 PM
Once extended amp would be in 3rd slot CD in the first 2 making it a 7 amp 40 damage.

Rasecx
07-27-2010, 08:55 PM
Berserker must be trying to sell his s.amp katana or somtin cause thats total crap lol.
I'd advice osm/redosm deathblow 40% with topaz 40%, u get a really decent base atk and pwnage crit damage. U'd be 2hitting almost anyone and would only need to crit once (except WAs and some FS). To get more base atk get good bracelets, a pet with atk, a good eof and should work to get some rof+9/10. Thats wat you should really be aiming at, it works really good for pve and pvp. If you are more of a pve type then i advice getting a forcium 2slot or a deathblow blade/katana, gives u really good atk for when u dont crit. Going amp on weapons kinda fails, its not for our class. We have no problem having max rate so we crit most of the time. 42%amp + 200%CD + 950+ base attack is what u can accomplish.

NewEra
07-28-2010, 04:30 PM
now thats the S H I T

Matrimoney
07-28-2010, 04:42 PM
Berserker must be trying to sell his s.amp katana or somtin cause thats total crap lol.
I'd advice osm/redosm deathblow 40% with topaz 40%, u get a really decent base atk and pwnage crit damage. U'd be 2hitting almost anyone and would only need to crit once (except WAs and some FS). To get more base atk get good bracelets, a pet with atk, a good eof and should work to get some rof+9/10. Thats wat you should really be aiming at, it works really good for pve and pvp. If you are more of a pve type then i advice getting a forcium 2slot or a deathblow blade/katana, gives u really good atk for when u dont crit. Going amp on weapons kinda fails, its not for our class. We have no problem having max rate so we crit most of the time. 42%amp + 200%CD + 950+ base attack is what u can accomplish.
lol you need a mixture of amp/cd....anything over 200 is cut in 1/2 so dual 40's is kinda..eh....

Raid101
07-28-2010, 05:00 PM
lol you need a mixture of amp/cd....anything over 200 is cut in 1/2 so dual 40's is kinda..eh....

thats where rof10s coem into play :)
15 cd extrange for 39 base and like 54 def

Matrimoney
07-28-2010, 05:12 PM
thats where rof10s coem into play :)
15 cd extrange for 39 base and like 54 def

you act like a 2 rof 10's don't cost more than a 2 slot forc wep..lul

LackofABetterName
07-28-2010, 05:14 PM
if you go amp forcium katana, its still possible to have 17x+% cdi, which would still be right below 200% when you aura.

Raid101
07-28-2010, 05:35 PM
you act like a 2 rof 10's don't cost more than a 2 slot forc wep..lul

ur talkign about 2 40cd weps
and ur worried abotu rof10s ? lol
and for the record
13 base x3 = 39 base
guess u got a ged instead
18x3=54

Berserk_Fury
07-28-2010, 06:46 PM
Berserker must be trying to sell his s.amp katana or somtin cause thats total crap lol.
I'd advice osm/redosm deathblow 40% with topaz 40%, u get a really decent base atk and pwnage crit damage. U'd be 2hitting almost anyone and would only need to crit once (except WAs and some FS). To get more base atk get good bracelets, a pet with atk, a good eof and should work to get some rof+9/10. Thats wat you should really be aiming at, it works really good for pve and pvp. If you are more of a pve type then i advice getting a forcium 2slot or a deathblow blade/katana, gives u really good atk for when u dont crit. Going amp on weapons kinda fails, its not for our class. We have no problem having max rate so we crit most of the time. 42%amp + 200%CD + 950+ base attack is what u can accomplish.

Why would I be trying to sell my katana? That weapon is one of the most ideal setups without spending several billion on a single item. Also that weapon setup still allowed me to kill your ass even though you're 170 and I'm not, so I guess either you're garbage or that weapon setup is good.

EzSeleneEz
07-28-2010, 07:29 PM
even if we're a crit class that amp/base affects how hard u crit also, along with it being more ideal to strengthen up our dps skills. go ahead and try to 2 hit people and when one of those skills doesnt crit have fun getting done with infernal before you die. i can 2 hit a lot of people using my forcium katana but i would still rather 3-4 hit them with dps skills/assassinate because its faster than assassinate/infernal, and if i fail to crit assass i still have infernal to finish them off. not to mention the amp/base affecting bm2 damage more than crit dmg. and its not hard to get good crit damage while using a forcium wep. ive got 174% cd, can obtain 198% with a 7/40 helm and aop+6 which is close to the soft cap while having over 50% amp and over 1k attack

xStar
07-28-2010, 07:53 PM
even if we're a crit class that amp/base affects how hard u crit also, along with it being more ideal to strengthen up our dps skills. go ahead and try to 2 hit people and when one of those skills doesnt crit have fun getting done with infernal before you die. i can 2 hit a lot of people using my forcium katana but i would still rather 3-4 hit them with dps skills/assassinate because its faster than assassinate/infernal, and if i fail to crit assass i still have infernal to finish them off. not to mention the amp/base affecting bm2 damage more than crit dmg. and its not hard to get good crit damage while using a forcium wep. ive got 174% cd, can obtain 198% with a 7/40 helm and aop+6 which is close to the soft cap while having over 50% amp and over 1k attackThere's no soft cap. I've tested it already with my fb, I had over 220% cdi with 4 cr+2s. But I would rather use the amp blade in bm2 instead cause of base dmg but anyway I honestly never regret the dmg build but wasn't so happy with it. Oh well not like it matters anymore since I quit game.

Raid101
07-29-2010, 08:19 AM
There's no soft cap. I've tested it already with my fb, I had over 220% cdi with 4 cr+2s. But I would rather use the amp blade in bm2 instead cause of base dmg but anyway I honestly never regret the dmg build but wasn't so happy with it. Oh well not like it matters anymore since I quit game.

maybe they raised it ?

Blager2
07-31-2010, 01:03 PM
I would stick with what they are saying. Get a topaz 40% and forc kat/blade+7 7% S.A. (+6 if you don't have the alz to +7 at first but definitely start with that topaz) Save enough alz until you can get a redosm 40% to match

Berserk_Fury
07-31-2010, 01:53 PM
I would stick with what they are saying. Get a topaz 40% and forc kat/blade+7 7% S.A. (+6 if you don't have the alz to +7 at first but definitely start with that topaz) Save enough alz until you can get a redosm 40% to match

If you people want to involve epic weapons, 20 dmg +7 forcium katana > 40 dmg red osm.

Raid101
07-31-2010, 03:47 PM
does that like 60 or so >20 cd ?

Berserk_Fury
07-31-2010, 08:39 PM
does that like 60 or so >20 cd ?

huh?

Raid101
07-31-2010, 10:35 PM
huh?

i meant
does that 60 attack or so > 20 cd ?

LackofABetterName
08-01-2010, 04:26 AM
i meant
does that 60 attack or so > 20 cd ?

it would depend on the target's defense, and also your status.

it is practically meaningless to do a straight comparison between 60 atk and 20 cdi without considering those factors.

the best solution is really.. just pull out a calculator.