Min Dmg% VS. Amp ??

[syndrah]

which one is better o.0

amp gives more max dmg, min dmg gives more damage overall.

[SkyAlpha]

Amp lol

[BleedingSoul]

u need more attack rate son

[SkyAlpha]

u need more attack rate son

^ trollllllllllllll >_________>

[GuardianPat]

most people said min is useless

[SkyAlpha]

most people said min is useless

beacause it is

[GuardianPat]

well i dont think so. lol

[SkyAlpha]

dats y u fail haha

[GuardianPat]

nope, not really. there are still alot of secrets in caballllllll

[Berserk_Fury]

Min dmg is far from being useless on sword classes.

[SkyAlpha]

Min dmg is far from being useless on sword classes.

lets say u attack 1-100, the 7% min dmg will giv u 7-100, not much of a difference

[GuardianPat]

well i heard there is the 85% base dmg for sword classes... min dmg does nothing for magic classes

[SkyAlpha]

cabal never tells us anything bout this

[WIpwns]

beacause it is

FBs are useless ;)

[GuardianPat]

fb is a sword class. so min dmg might be useful

[SkyAlpha]

D: mad critter for me

[GuardianPat]

haha, FS crit is awesome

[SkyAlpha]

fbs r awesommer (700 posts)

[WIpwns]

fbs r awesommer (700 posts)

disagreed

[SkyAlpha]

wi suxx :) WIpwns: agreed

[GuardianPat]

prov eit lol.

wiz is cool with blinkingggg

[silver2020]

omg that fb who started this thread just needs to get forc orb or blade crafted with amp in slot for min dmg and amp

[GuardianPat]

I want maniac gearsssssssss

[BleedingSoul]

Pat, is there a reason you have the last post on every thread on every class?

[GuardianPat]

this is war *going on war chan*

[silver2020]

rofl lethal ahahhaa

[SkyAlpha]

hes gonna win the contest on 1k posts

[GuardianPat]

lol rofl.


777 posts. im lucky

[SkyAlpha]

u had 666 10 min ago

[GuardianPat]

ill have 1337 soon

[silver2020]

rofl wwhat if the 1k post title is "Troll Member"

[SkyAlpha]

then pat would be the winner

[GuardianPat]

no it cannot be because this forum is Vbulletin power and i know there is no title after senior :P

[WIpwns]

-.-

[GuardianPat]

go buy min dmg set for you WI, beast :P

[SkyAlpha]

-.-

hey, jus ignore pat

[GuardianPat]

lol sky is jeelus of me

[SkyAlpha]

O_O am not!!

[Eriks419]

gpat responds to his own posts, how u think he got so many??? lol at 1k posts they delete ur forum account, hahahaha!!!!!!

[DemonWrath]

o.o wow for once the thread wasnt completely trolled *claps to thread started*

[YumCookies]

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[DrifterX]

wow epic war, lol gogogo

[Tanalas]

Amp all the way..and FB do rule....

[Rastan]

Max crit rate>s.amp all amp does is increase your overall base damage

[Berserk_Fury]

Max crit rate>s.amp all amp does is increase your overall base damage

Yes, because increasing the amount of damage you do at all times is not good or anything.

[Rastan]

well,if i'm right on this,and i'm sure i am,your crits always hit harder than non crits right?!?!.......so does amp affect how often you crit?....no......how are all fights won?...on who crits the most and the hardest....so i say again,max crit rate > s.amp

nobody just wants to do it other than me cuz they don't wanna waste the alz trying to roll max rate into pc amp gloves and suit

[Berserk_Fury]

Lets think about it. Is there anything at all that affects your non-crits, but doesn't affect crits?

[Rastan]

min dmg % :P

[Berserk_Fury]

min dmg % :P

You have no idea what min dmg does then. Let me make this easier for you:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9977/cabalver102100408235900.jpg

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9977/cabalver102100408235900.jpg

[Rastan]

nice,but i still say s.amp is over-rated,people just buy it cuz it's easier to get and max out their base attack 1k+ and hope and pray for a chain of crits,i'm not saying change your build,if your comfortable with it and it works for you go for it,but with time,effort and patience....alot of patience,you can be stronger

[MyForumIsFISHIN]

Why would you replace 50 hp for 2% max crit rate? I understand the gloves but suit?

[Rastan]

cuz when you extend max rate it goes to 3%..so it's possible to have 72%?(idk if a 3rd max rate slot does the same as CD) rate total on gear alone...besides,there's always extended pc will boots and honor titles

[MyForumIsFISHIN]

Did you achieve that yet?

[Rastan]

achieve what?

[MyForumIsFISHIN]

72% rate.

[Rastan]

nah,i'm only at 60%,not too much max rate gear out there,i think if your lucky enough to get all 3 slots with max rate it'd be just 7% for gloves and suit,plus aop+4 or +7 for 68%....not to mention what you could get on your pet

[MyForumIsFISHIN]

Okay and how is that working out for you?

[Rastan]

i love it,it took 2 min. off of each of my dungeon farming runs compared to my amp build

[MyForumIsFISHIN]

Intriguing. And how much did that cost you as compared to amp? Btw I think you meant aop+3 because +4 gives you 1% max rate.

[Rastan]

yeah,+3 pain,yur right,all together it cost me 70m,50m for the 4% max rate suit (Lucky AH find)and 20m for 2% max rate gloves (osm armor +6)crafted the ammy myself

[MyForumIsFISHIN]

Nevertheless that is an interesting build. I assume you do fairly well in pvp?

[Rastan]

well,i originally bought the gear for my FS cuz i didn't like my SS not critting,afterwards i was 3-4 hitting people in pvp,but i then put it on my fb and it's about the same,i win some,i lose some,it's not the diffinitive build yet because 60% still isn't enough and you need hella cd to make it truly effective,i'm talkin about 40 dmg helm,blade/katana and crystal/orb

[GuardianPat]

its not easy getting 40% stuff

[Berserk_Fury]

yeah,+3 pain,yur right,all together it cost me 70m,50m for the 4% max rate suit (Lucky AH find)and 20m for 2% max rate gloves (osm armor +6)crafted the ammy myself

You talk about amp being cheaper to get? Every piece of my gear costs more than all of your get put together.

[Rastan]

i never said cheaper,i said easier

[SliverElixer]

go for broke.

[GuardianPat]

go for broke i slike go for waste

[Rastan]

lol,it's imaginary money,wouldn't you at least try?

[auctionmule]

go grind guards more with your epic 60 rate, lacard/rastan, and stop spreading bs

[Rastan]

sorry,who are you again?

[auctionmule]

doesnt matter who i am. 8 rate is totally better than some CD and like 14 amp dood

[Rastan]

depends on your class

[auctionmule]

lol no it doesnt

[Rastan]

yeah,it does,because fs and fb don't need rate gear unless they got over 60% rate otherwise they can use rol+1 x3 or rol+2 x2,if your a wa,bl,fa,or wizzy then yeah rate gear is the way to go but an 8 rate 20 dmg weapon or helm on a class with a rate buff that gives you 50% rate is useless unless you have the max rate to increase it

[auctionmule]

yeah,it does,because fs and fb don't need rate gear unless they got over 60% rate otherwise they can use rol+1 x3 or rol+2 x2,if your a wa,bl,fa,or wizzy then yeah rate gear is the way to go but an 8 rate 20 dmg weapon or helm on a class with a rate buff that gives you 50% rate is useless unless you have the max rate to increase it

having 10% max crit rate is a waste

having an 8 rate 20 dmg weapon or helm on a class with a rate buff that gives you 50 rate (49 for fs) is a waste too

[Rastan]

well since you haven't tried it and you have no idea what it's like to crit 5-6 attacks in a row regularly w/o aura or bm you don't really have any grounds to say it's a waste or not

[CyrStalAFX]

Amp.......

[All1Do1sW1n]

Rastan, get your head out of your ass.

[auctionmule]

well since you haven't tried it and you have no idea what it's like to crit 5-6 attacks in a row regularly w/o aura or bm you don't really have any grounds to say it's a waste or not

are you stupid

[Rapturen]

o.o; let people do what ever build they want tbh.. he's just trying something dif. from the norm. Who knows you people are insulting him and are gonna end up using his build -.-...If you don't wanna try his build don't you don't HAVE to lol. If you think max crit rate is horrible then let him do it..easier it is for you to kill him lol..

P.S. I'm not picking sides XD

[GuardianPat]

then you suggest us to lie about everything? lol

[Rapturen]

umm no i suggest you to not flame him for his choice.

[auctionmule]

o.o; let people do what ever build they want tbh.. he's just trying something dif. from the norm. Who knows you people are insulting him and are gonna end up using his build -.-...If you don't wanna try his build don't you don't HAVE to lol. If you think max crit rate is horrible then let him do it..easier it is for you to kill him lol..

P.S. I'm not picking sides XD

k ill let him tell people false information so that they can fail at grinding small guardians in war too

[Rapturen]

Go ahead, what's it to you? voice your opinion but don't completely shut down another.

[auctionmule]

Go ahead, what's it to you? voice your opinion but don't completely shut down another.

this is a forum, we're supposed to shut down crappy opinions

[Rapturen]

it's your opinion that he has a "Crappy Opinion" wanna cookie?

G'night ..this thread has gone off-topic..

[GuardianPat]

min dmg is cool if you want not to hit low

[Berserk_Fury]

min dmg is cool if you want not to hit low

Another idiot that has no clue what min dmg does in this game.

[MyForumIsFISHIN]

Another idiot that has no clue what min dmg does in this game.

=] Because Min Dmg in BoF's is COMPLETELY useless