So ummmmm.... +11 Lapis 40DMG > +11 Forcium 7SAMP

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Prove it.

when u get up to a high enough atk then yes

Look at my branny DMG post and then look at Yomo's. I win by over 800 and I recently got a +11 Forcium Crystal with 7 S Amp and I crit less. ^^ I like looking like yomo now though. WE ARE GUILDIES NOW AFTERALL!!

Now I will admit that I crit the DPS moves in pvp like 200 to 300 harder with the forcium crystal and only a bit less with the bigger skills (i.e. Splitner and Grenade) and having like 1080 base attk isnt that bad either. >.< So the non crits are amazingly harder, but who plays FS and doesn't crit?

So basically, lapis better for crits and the forci s.amp is better for non crit o.o

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Originally Posted by Yngwie21

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It depends on ur char n build.

Yeah duh, forcium only makes up when u don't crit.
when u crit the dmg is of course higher.
i've done dmg testing.
so agreeing w/ Lelouch's post.

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Originally Posted by Lelouch

So basically, lapis better for crits and the forci s.amp is better for non crit o.o

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yes

my new stats are
4095hp
1081 attk
1298 def
54rate
167dmg
60samp

Forcium Crystal has better "DPS" but who is to say that the "DPS" isnt better with a larger crit? I think 2shotting someone is the best DPS oen can get. 1.8sec cast time on grenade, 2.8sec cast on splinter = 4.6 seconds of pvp against maybe FK>Imapct>Charge>Rising 0.5sec FK, 1sec Imapct, 0.9sec charge, 1.1sec rising or something like that = 3.5 seconds but with my lapis i was critting well over 2.4k splinter and grenade so 5k dmg in 4.6 seconds against an AVG of 700dmg per DPS skill 700 x 4 = 2800. Also some say forcium crystals are better in bm2, but they arent... lol