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  1. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    Edit: Seems it may not like the formulas I used...

    Edit: Seems it may not like the formulas I used for 97-03 excel. I get an error that there is too much nesting [formulas within formulas] going on for the file format [97-03 excel]. It may not be...
  2. Thread: Learn2Bm2

    by LastHour
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    Forgot to post here, if anyone is interested here...

    Forgot to post here, if anyone is interested here is the trial version of my bm2 calculator:

    2007 excel:
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TFP3ARAG
    97-03 excel:
    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XECVNP46...
  3. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    Maybe it'll hit 40-45 when I finish this bm2 calc...

    Maybe it'll hit 40-45 when I finish this bm2 calc to basically do what ratza/spur did in an instant for anyone lol.
  4. Thread: Learn2Bm2

    by LastHour
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    Probably not, and I figured most of this before I...

    Probably not, and I figured most of this before I began arguing with +/- 2 errors or so. I argued to the letter of technicality, which will make it all that much more hilarious if I can finish the...
  5. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    I've had just about enough, and despite my claim...

    I've had just about enough, and despite my claim to not re-enter the thread, I'm basically not going to enter the argument again which was the main purpose. I've done the damage outputs 3 different...
  6. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    Redid your bm2 test: 20 sc - 6 uses 20 Meteor -...

    Redid your bm2 test:
    20 sc - 6 uses
    20 Meteor - 6 uses
    20 edc - 6 uses
    20 af - 7 uses
    20 light - 11 uses
    20 hail - 11 uses
    20 stone - 11 uses
    20 vac - 8 uses
    20 fire C - 9 uses
  7. Thread: Learn2Bm2

    by LastHour
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    Much like there isn't much PvP debate, there's...

    Much like there isn't much PvP debate, there's not much PvE debate. You failed to realize one thing that deserves a giant facepalm for this argument, out of bm2 skills do not have the same cast times...
  8. Thread: Learn2Bm2

    by LastHour
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    Tell me where you see vac in here ^. I did...

    Tell me where you see vac in here ^. I did exactly what you gave me, don't blame me for your own failure to properly write your own build. I'll redo the test and my own as well [maybe with 20 vac...
  9. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    I had to use 13 instead of 12 because using auto...

    I had to use 13 instead of 12 because using auto attack your bm2 build did not hold up. Twice there was an instant where lightning C was solo casted without a skill, using the 12 skills you gave me,...
  10. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    Beat you to the punch on that one spur, believe...

    Beat you to the punch on that one spur, believe it or not I have in game experience too. I already tried to justify your level 20 skills and said the exact same thing you did on it at the end of your...
  11. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    Doesn't matter in comparing DPS to others,...

    Doesn't matter in comparing DPS to others, because you can compare your DPS against yourself with the different setups which is the real importance. Above all the whole point with all this debate...
  12. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    Roughly what I did, along with comparing how many...

    Roughly what I did, along with comparing how many skills I got off over the whole bm2 to the time interval of attack to make sure they matched. I was told the accepted value was 1.8, and didn't find...
  13. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    Sorry for double post, but testing appears to...

    Sorry for double post, but testing appears to have revealed that double caster on average, casts every 1.74 seconds when auto attacking. This will give you about 50 dual casts [or 100 skills] within...
  14. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    Well maximum dps still is hard to grasp what you...

    Well maximum dps still is hard to grasp what you were aiming for on it, but I read it mainly as maximum DPS for a skill is only achieved when you crit, which would be correct. When talking about the...
  15. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    The average damage and DPS of 20 edc to 9 or 12...

    The average damage and DPS of 20 edc to 9 or 12 is higher [makes sense, the power changes but not the cast time], but that is not the flaw. The flaw is the calculator does not make it clear how often...
  16. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    Ratza originally did his tests showing the...

    Ratza originally did his tests showing the maximum difference [critting every EDC], which would not be likely but proves the point best showing that difference in range. On average the 20 edc might...
  17. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    It can depend on your crit rate. If you have a...

    It can depend on your crit rate. If you have a lower critical rate especially, the total criticals for your bm2 can fluctuate a little leading to less total damage in the end. This can still happen...
  18. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    Bleh misread and tired, but the main point is...

    Bleh misread and tired, but the main point is your still trying to make it about the power of a single dual cast and not the entirety of dual casts throughout the bm2. Will edit correct stuff back in...
  19. Thread: Learn2Bm2

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    The nicely done math tests weren't entirely...

    The nicely done math tests weren't entirely necessary to prove 12 edc > 20 LC. Spur is right that EDC had 20% less amp than his lightning cannon, but he forgot something called add attack on the...
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    I find it funny how a lv 170 fb is using defense...

    I find it funny how a lv 170 fb is using defense down instead of attacking lol.
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    I've been naked in war without bringer. I've had...

    I've been naked in war without bringer. I've had access to many acc's, and in fact towards the end of my playing on NA, I rarely used my own and deleted it at some point. So whose to say I haven't...
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    There are typically more battle FA's than martial...

    There are typically more battle FA's than martial FA's, so the way you posed your observation is silly. If battle/martial had the same % of skilled users for their populations, then the of course the...
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    The alz he bought he could've probably bought a...

    The alz he bought he could've probably bought a decent new car with. Any gear set you make with that amount is hard to make not OP.

    @Miavii: Haniel has BRINGER in those screenshots. The bringer is...
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    You never saw buttons solo ensign + enemy nation...

    You never saw buttons solo ensign + enemy nation :x
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    I have yet to see a battle FA that could beat...

    I have yet to see a battle FA that could beat feirys guns. [Epic I know]

    And if those 3-4 people were any decent that battle FA would be on the floor faster than it knew what hit it. If you can't...
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