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    Osmium
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    Question on Gear set up

    36 cd martial helm
    7 amp 50 hp suit
    st glove and boot 7 amp
    10 rate phery orb +9
    40 cd phery orb +9
    1 merg ring
    1 rol+1

    i know this is pretty crappy gear. i want to know if this is good gear for now
    i am aiming for this gear though
    7/34 helm
    7 amp 100 hp
    st glove and boot 7 amp
    10 rate phery orb +9
    40 cd lapis phery orb+9
    1 merg ring
    1 rol+1

    is this good enough build?

    or

    12-15 rate helm
    2X cd lapis phery orb+9
    is this better?
    Last edited by Sky; 11-09-2010 at 05:53 AM.

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    Osmium iNub's Avatar
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    not sure about wiz. ask matri, but i'd assume they're in the same boat as WA and need rings and weapons / helms for CRI unlike FB or FS.



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    zzz nvm
    Last edited by zx34; 11-09-2010 at 09:00 PM.

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    u cant ask matri, he will just say its fail and flame you for not buying alz

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    Quote Originally Posted by iNub View Post
    not sure about wiz. ask matri, but i'd assume they're in the same boat as WA and need rings and weapons / helms for CRI unlike FB or FS.
    Wizards dont use 15/24 helms.
    The difference is WAs only have one kind of weapon, while wizards can have 2 different kinds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathlymonkey View Post
    Wizards dont use 15/24 helms.
    The difference is WAs only have one kind of weapon, while wizards can have 2 different kinds.
    Who said they couldn't? If you have that set up of 1 15/24, and 2 7/40s, then whose to say you can't use a 15/24 helm? It's the same thing as a 15/24 orb... and you just use 2 7/40 orbs instead of a 7/40 helm/orb. Yes a 7/40 helm is easier to get but if you have the 15/24 helm already why not use that? WA's could use a similar set up... 15/24 helm and a 14/80 (if you could get one of these lol) and it's the same thing as 2 7/40 orbs but just in 1 wep.

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    40/7 Helm, 40/7 Orbs.

    +12-15 dual Phery ftw.
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    Sadly the above is really the only viable solution unless:

    1. You are part of a top guild and they donate pc crafted lapis/topaz orbs to you and you have access to SEHs.
    2. You're rich enough to buy a retarded amount of alz.
    3. You luckbox about ~10 billion worth of drops.
    4. You spend the next 4 years chain running lid/eod/sod every day harder than any chinese farmer farmed in the history of his entire life and you always have 5b+ on hand to snatch up any good orbs on the market.

    Here are some possible setups to help you out:

    All builds should aim for this:
    Base (5% cr, 20% cd)
    AoP+5 (5% cd)
    Merg (15% cr)
    CR+2 (15% cd)
    K-red (3%cr, 10% cd)

    That puts you at 23% cr and 50% cd and this is not counting pets or upcoming new runes from future patches.

    So where do we go from here?

    Option #1,
    2x 40% CD Pher Orbs from weod
    8/20 helm
    RoL+1 (10% cr)
    RoC+5 (5% cr)
    == Total: 46% cr and 150% cd

    This solution isn't bad and it's not terribly suicide inducing in weod because you can always SEM yourself to 40% with only a 1 socket orb and you don't have to worry about getting rate first. With reasonable luck you'll be in/out weod from 55-70 and on your merry way.

    There are issues with this setup though. To upgrade past this point will be extremely difficult. You pretty much need 34% Topaz orbs or better to upgrade your weapons. A 34% Lapis is effectively the same as a 40% Pher so there's no point jumping to Lapis unless it's 40%, however a 40% Lapis is still no joke when it comes to cost. I don't know offhand how much it would be but I would estimate 1.5b each minimum assuming you even find a seller.

    So now we're talking about a 3b upgrade for a minor change in m.atk, and an additional 1.5b for an aop+6 for 5% cd more if you'd like.


    Option #2 is similiar to Option #1:
    Instead of the 8/20 helm you farm yourself a 2 socket db Martial helm from weod and get rate in the first slot. This will give you a 45% cr, 164% cd setup. Definitely a respectable setup but getting the helm could potentially be annoying. Personally I think this is the ideal setup for someone who doesn't want to spend weeks in weod.

    Option #3:
    You pretty much go all out in weod. Forget work, forget school, forget your spouse (she's locked in the closet for a minimum of 10 hours a day). You eat, sh*t, and sleep weod until you get 3x 7/40 items. You also replace the RoC+5 with a CR+2 and the Rol+1 with a CR+2.

    This setup bumps you up to 46% cr and 200% CD. You can get another 5% CD by upgrading to an AoP+6.

    #3 is pretty much the long haul WI. Anyone who says Pher orbs aren't end game material are jealous they don't have them. 2x 7/34 Topaz orbs would be better without a doubt but good luck getting those. In the mean time with the #3 setup you have no real costs associated to your gear. You just +11 your orbs for now, pickup some 7% m.amp armor pieces, your leech/etc. and everything you make after that (it's still a good amount of farming for all this with the cr+2s) goes to your potential 7/34 Topaz orb fund.

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