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    FA choices.

    OK so i was looking at a few threads and they were a bit outdated,so let me get straight to the point,since new orbs/crystals came out. i was told these choices are good.



    FORCIUM ORB/CRYSTAL(2 slot+11) VS FORCIUM ORB/CRYSTAL(amp+11)

    Even if i'm battle build.And what is a considerate amount of *AMP* should a FA have some people say having 50amp is good enough is it?...

    And some say 2 SLOT FORCIUM orb/crystal Should be Mixed with FORCIUM ORB/CRYSTAL amp +11? good combination or bad they are both used for pvp/pve...

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    Crit weapons will crit harder than amp by a bit, both are good and it won't matter much end game.

    What you really should do is build for what you like, if you like pve amp > crit. If you like pvp crit > amp, in war just get a leg. Mixing them is fine also.

    Either build you go you should have 44+ amp.
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    my stats are below.

    i made a choice among:

    1st choice (mix) 20 cd and 7%mamp orbs (middleground)
    2nd (both crits) 40 cd on orbs and 0 amp (best when u crit but dead last when u don't)
    3rd (both amp) 14% amp orbs (best average/base dmg and in gunz, but worst critting)

    and that was the order I prefer to have them in both pvp and pve. btw, all orbs are just +8, but i'm presuming your subsequent tests on +11's will yield the same findings. I think.

    I prefer orbs too cuz our innate weaps just ask a tad too much str and I'm not in forcium battle yet. The extra mattk u can get from having to use orbs, which are int-intensive too, will come in handy.

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    cr 50
    cd 124

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    1 Amp + 1 Dmg orb is the worst dmg of the 3 options, 40% dmg is slightly better dps (especially when in Aura/Aos) than 14% amp (Although may be even or a little better in BM2) all of this however depends on ur crit rate, base magic attack, and amp and crit dmg

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    if you're rich go for +11 forcium 20%... if you want a more economical build just go +11 forcium amps ^_^,v.. invest in ROS10's too to boost up the magic attack and defense.

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    Unless you want to work out which is better for each individual skill that you will be using (by check out the magic attack, CR, CD and amp you will have), you can use this general formula.

    20% CD > 7% amp
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    Quote Originally Posted by beslosion View Post
    1 Amp + 1 Dmg orb is the worst dmg of the 3 options, 40% dmg is slightly better dps (especially when in Aura/Aos) than 14% amp (Although may be even or a little better in BM2) all of this however depends on ur crit rate, base magic attack, and amp and crit dmg
    not really.

    do this:

    assign a rating 1=best, 2=neither, 3=worst for the skills you use for each weap combination (mix, 40cd, full amp). Take a noob skill like critical shot, and the lances you prefer, as well as gd (being the single hit skill and easier to gauge damage unlike the 2 ss's)

    Once assigned (and this is based on your tests, no pots or party, just your buffs), add the corresponding ratings on 3 categories: base, average, critical. So if a particular weap combination consistently gets the worst rating, it's weighted total will be 9 (3,3,3). Conversely, the best will get 3 (1,1,1).

    These were my findings:


    Mix 40cd Fullamp
    PVE
    GD 6 5 7
    CS 4 8 6
    --- --- ---
    * 10 13 13

    PVP
    GD 6 5 7
    CS 5 8 5
    --- --- ---
    * 11 13 12



    *18 is worst, 6 is best.

    In both departments, the balanced rating (neither best nor worst) made up for the Mix weap combination. Amp dominated the base deprtment but played poorly in the critical. 40cd played poorly, deadlast in the base deprtment but surprisingly didnt dominate the critical department either. On 2 instances, mix outdamages it in the critical (depending on the skill). Mix played consistently (never last) in any department and category.


    Do your own method and comparison. Don't just take my word for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    not really.

    do this:

    assign a rating 1=best, 2=neither, 3=worst for the skills you use for each weap combination (mix, 40cd, full amp). Take a noob skill like critical shot, and the lances you prefer, as well as gd (being the single hit skill and easier to gauge damage unlike the 2 ss's)

    Once assigned (and this is based on your tests, no pots or party, just your buffs), add the corresponding ratings on 3 categories: base, average, critical. So if a particular weap combination consistently gets the worst rating, it's weighted total will be 9 (3,3,3). Conversely, the best will get 3 (1,1,1).

    These were my findings:


    Mix 40cd Fullamp
    PVE
    GD 6 5 7
    CS 4 8 6
    --- --- ---
    * 10 13 13

    PVP
    GD 6 5 7
    CS 5 8 5
    --- --- ---
    * 11 13 12



    *18 is worst, 6 is best.

    In both departments, the balanced rating (neither best nor worst) made up for the Mix weap combination. Amp dominated the base deprtment but played poorly in the critical. 40cd played poorly, deadlast in the base deprtment but surprisingly didnt dominate the critical department either. On 2 instances, mix outdamages it in the critical (depending on the skill). Mix played consistently (never last) in any department and category.


    Do your own method and comparison. Don't just take my word for it.

    inb4usayuuseaosbm2inpvp
    Cute Little Set up, 2x 20% dmg orbs are the best dps end of story. Sorry u wasted ur time...

    inb4uheardofwar

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    Quote Originally Posted by beslosion View Post
    Cute Little Set up, 2x 20% dmg orbs are the best dps end of story. Sorry u wasted ur time...



    inb4uheardofwar
    not really...not really trying to be antagonistic. just trying to help.

    inb4urealizeweapchoicesdontmatterinwarcuzofleg

    period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    not really...not really trying to be antagonistic. just trying to help.

    inb4urealizeweapchoicesdontmatterinwarcuzofleg

    period.
    Not really 2x 20% dmg isn't best dps... go find a damage calc or ask any real FA plox.
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