eod2

[Abi]

5M a pop in ah is kinda lame considering even with 6uchs a run u still wont make ur alz back with the current market and that's assuming u're soloing and taking all the chests to urself. alot of the time the run just ends up being fchs and junk osm out the ass which makes breaking even even more difficult. u guys took them out of the fr npc, took them out of tpoint and now the only option is to buy from ah or farm in eod. tried farming eod twice alrdy for the full duration, killed all mobs at least 5 times over and still not a single entry drop from there. eod2 is necessary for 2 different rank ups and killian's so i dont quite understand y the entry has been made so difficult to obtain. is it possible to maybe put them back in tpoint, npc, raise the drop rate in eod or just make them drop on maps? heck even raising the rate of killian's item dropping would help (kinda lame when some ppl can get it in the first 10 runs and others can run 100+ and still get nothing. maybe implement a system that takes into account the amount of runs u've attempted and increases the drop rate by a small % each time u've run it w/o a killian's drop and then have the increased rate reset back to 0 when killian's is dropped/obtained.) wat do u guys think?

[Valdoroth]

I don't really know why you're suggesting that, but if you wanted to suggest anything for eod2 that wasn't changing anything (since they're not going to touch rates) was re-adding it back to FR Core Alchemist for 3m ea. But I'm sure there was a reason to remove it from there.

On the flip side, why don't you just farm for entries? Those are free so 100% profit. Also, so what if it's lame? The market altered and so you have to adapt to it. I'm not trying to be too negative, but players are taking things for granted way to much these days and it needs to change.

[Abi]

I don't really know why you're suggesting that, but if you wanted to suggest anything for eod2 that wasn't changing anything (since they're not going to touch rates) was re-adding it back to FR Core Alchemist for 3m ea. But I'm sure there was a reason to remove it from there.

On the flip side, why don't you just farm for entries? Those are free so 100% profit. Also, so what if it's lame? The market altered and so you have to adapt to it. I'm not trying to be too negative, but players are taking things for granted way to much these days and it needs to change.

lol did u even read my post carefully? ive alrdy tried farming like mad. i farm eods til the end of the dung duration and come up with nothing each time. ur condescending tone is quite annoying and ur assumption that im a new/lazy player is also quite ignorant. everything i've achieved in this game i've done without spending a single cent which is alot more than wat most can say. also u dont seem to realize that alot of stuff that estsoft does is based on the korean server which is much different than our server and that is y they need to take into account the difference which hasnt been something they've excelled at. lastly this is suggestion corner, where ideas r shared and constructive discussion should be taking place. regardless of whether u agree or disagree, from someone like u, i would've expected a much more respectable response.

[Andrea]

5M a pop in ah is kinda lame considering even with 6uchs a run u still wont make ur alz back with the current market and that's assuming u're soloing and taking all the chests to urself. alot of the time the run just ends up being fchs and junk osm out the ass which makes breaking even even more difficult. u guys took them out of the fr npc, took them out of tpoint and now the only option is to buy from ah or farm in eod. tried farming eod twice alrdy for the full duration, killed all mobs at least 5 times over and still not a single entry drop from there. eod2 is necessary for 2 different rank ups and killian's so i dont quite understand y the entry has been made so difficult to obtain. is it possible to maybe put them back in tpoint, npc, raise the drop rate in eod or just make them drop on maps? heck even raising the rate of killian's item dropping would help (kinda lame when some ppl can get it in the first 10 runs and others can run 100+ and still get nothing. maybe implement a system that takes into account the amount of runs u've attempted and increases the drop rate by a small % each time u've run it w/o a killian's drop and then have the increased rate reset back to 0 when killian's is dropped/obtained.) wat do u guys think?

i support this

But I'm sure there was a reason to remove it from there.

to make money, what else. That's pretty obvious. It's a player friendly NOT scheme but definitely the one who thought of it must have been promoted to marketing employee of the year! way to go!

[noop]

val, nobody cares what you say anymore. You are just a douchebag.

[Valdoroth]

EoD2 also gives about 13k Honor points that you're spending your 5m on. Yea I know that farming them is slow. I also know that farming for 1 hour straight is less effective than in increments of 15 mins with breaks in between. We have the exact same drops rates as the korean servers. The only main differences between KO version and ours are mercenaries and guild emblems. Most everything is still the same. You have to recall that our player base is maybe 3,000 ppl for both servers, where in Korea, they have 3k ppl in each of their 15 servers. <--- this is where we agree, population compensation.

I'm only saying that they're not likely to alter drop rates from what they were set several updates ago and haven't changed. As much as it would be nice to have a compensation for our low population.

Do you really wanna spend less on them? Very easy solution. Buy a voucher, and buy the entries from the cash shop. You can get 52 of them for 1 voucher (19 ea). That's like a 192-208m value of only 125m (they're at 3.7-4m ea in venus atm). Just saiyan.

[Abi]

EoD2 also gives about 13k Honor points that you're spending your 5m on. Yea I know that farming them is slow. I also know that farming for 1 hour straight is less effective than in increments of 15 mins with breaks in between. We have the exact same drops rates as the korean servers. The only main differences between KO version and ours are mercenaries and guild emblems. Most everything is still the same. You have to recall that our player base is maybe 3,000 ppl for both servers, where in Korea, they have 3k ppl in each of their 15 servers. <--- this is where we agree, population compensation.

I'm only saying that they're not likely to alter drop rates from what they were set several updates ago and haven't changed. As much as it would be nice to have a compensation for our low population.

Do you really wanna spend less on them? Very easy solution. Buy a voucher, and buy the entries from the cash shop. You can get 52 of them for 1 voucher (19 ea). That's like a 192-208m value of only 125m (they're at 3.7-4m ea in venus atm). Just saiyan.

i wasnt aware that u're an estsoft representative, u must know for sure then that they have no interest in changing things or even listening to suggestions right? i wonder y they even bothered to open up a suggestion corner in forums then? i guess it's just to humour us and disperse some of the trolling that goes on in general discussions. sarcasm aside for someone who constantly bashes players for being lazy and not farming their own sht i find it rather ironic that u're bashing my idea that in essence would encourage the players to farm more. instead u suggest throwing money around and getting things easily and btw ive alrdy evaluated my options ages ago (it doesnt take a genious to figure out that buying from cs is cheaper given the current market but u seem to think u're pretty smart in doing so) but u c i'd rather farm my entries than spend money on them at all. just "saiyan".

[Valdoroth]

I am definitely not thinking in the manner you are assuming I am, and do not represent estsoft in any manner. I've played for 4 years, and drop rates are one thing they have only touched once. A trend that very obviously stays constant. And if they changed only one entry's drop rates, they should just raise all of them. Since they're all in the same drop tables for the most part.

[Coincidence?]

i wasnt aware that u're an estsoft representative, u must know for sure then that they have no interest in changing things or even listening to suggestions right? i wonder y they even bothered to open up a suggestion corner in forums then? i guess it's just to humour us and disperse some of the trolling that goes on in general discussions. sarcasm aside for someone who constantly bashes players for being lazy and not farming their own sht i find it rather ironic that u're bashing my idea that in essence would encourage the players to farm more. instead u suggest throwing money around and getting things easily and btw ive alrdy evaluated my options ages ago (it doesnt take a genious to figure out that buying from cs is cheaper given the current market but u seem to think u're pretty smart in doing so) but u c i'd rather farm my entries than spend money on them at all. just "saiyan".

You're stupid.
What the hell do you want?
You say you farm like mad but you hate it
You say youd rather not spend money to buy entries even with vouchers with in game alz
You wont do either of those two things and your still complaining.
What do you want, higher drop rates? Thats a nice joke.

[cronic21]

these drop rates are NOT same as koreans, dont believe me? go test urself. whens last time u even saw the drop table posted by est? yrs ago and has changed since.

all entry drops the same? weird...willin to bet every1 has tons of ft1s.

they messed up bc instead of getting rid of botters back in the day in UG they decided to just lower the drop rate in UG where eod2 use to also drop (this is in a notice, check for urself). so they lowered a drop rate in a map and didnt add anything to replace the loss.

so due to botters no longer adding entryis to AH in large quanties as they use to, we are forced to now get entries for the price they should have been from the start.

agree with both of u, they will not change drops, but.... thing is, u just got use to buying entries from botters for cheap. welcome to how cabal is meant to be.