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Thread: 15/24 vs 7/40 helm

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    15/24 vs 7/40 helm

    Which is better?
    Been reading this http://forum.cabalonline.com/showthr...for-EU-Wizards
    Says 15/24 give higher DPS.
    Can anyone back this up?

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    When it's only 8 rate vs 16 cd, yes 8 rate will give more dps

    But there is a cap on rate

    There is no cap on cd

    15/24 is a helm for people who don't have enough rate to hit their cap

    7/40 is a helm for people who do have enough rate to hit their cap

    This will depend on if you have rate or not on other pieces of equipment and how much max rate you have

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    Ratza is saying 15/24 with 2x 40dmg orbs is better because it is cheaper, which is true. However, 7/40 helm with 2 7/30 or more topaz+ orbs has a lot more potential. When he made that guide, high grade rate orbs were very rare to.come by but today they're kinda common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy View Post
    But there is a cap on rate
    what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathy View Post
    When it's only 8 rate vs 16 cd, yes 8 rate will give more dps

    But there is a cap on rate

    There is no cap on cd

    15/24 is a helm for people who don't have enough rate to hit their cap

    7/40 is a helm for people who do have enough rate to hit their cap

    This will depend on if you have rate or not on other pieces of equipment and how much max rate you have
    So let say that 15/24 would put your rate up to 55/55
    then that is better than 7/40?

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    Quote Originally Posted by plzbuffme View Post
    what?
    You know what I meant =.=

    Technically there isn't a cap on rate and it can go to 100 etc etc

    Except for your own personal Max Crit Rate which does act as a hard cap. Happy now? zzz

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Leon View Post
    So let say that 15/24 would put your rate up to 55/55
    then that is better than 7/40?
    If the 7/40 helm put you at 47/55 rate, then the 15/24 is better

    But if you are 55/55 with 7/40 helm, then you don't need a 15/24

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    lol i didnt say it to spite you. i have 6x% crit rate and you would think almost every hit would crit but its not the case. i feel as though there is a diminishing return at around 59% crit rate and i was wondering if anyone knew anything about it since at that point its hard to really test it out.

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    7/40 helm 1 7/3x orb and a 40 cdi orb > 15/24 helm 2x 40 cdi orbs. trust me ive calculated this before.

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    of course u have to have merg (killians) rol2, k red, the 7/40, and atleast c rate in 1 orb. and ur good. u should have 52 rate with that, or more if u have some in ur pet. i know good wizzys that only have like 48 rate lmao

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    7/40 helm + 7/40 orb = 14 rate + 80 dmg.... 15/24 helm + 40 orb = 15 rate + 64 dmg

    two items with 7 rate would be the most beneficial. When you know you cant afford two items like that, then 15/24 is better

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