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    Based on New Update 20% boost for each Crystal

    A lot of FA are using dual orbs for a while; The new system boosts 20% damage per crystal pushing FA to use crystal over orbs to balance the upgrades / damage boosts other classes are getting. Please allow some sort of transmuting ability to change orbs to crystal.

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    no.stop b1tching.

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    If they allow us to change xtals into orbs they need to allow us to do the opposite and also change blades to katana and to gs and to daikat etc


    That would totally unbalance the game. Nothing is forcing you to switch to crystals. They're boosting their damage because they are changing the base stats on orbs. Either keep your orbs (which you, as a fa, ARENT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE USING according to what the developpers originally wanted) or start looking for new crystals. Be glad you actually learn about it way before we get the update.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathlymonkey View Post
    If they allow us to change xtals into orbs they need to allow us to do the opposite and also change blades to katana and to gs and to daikat etc


    That would totally unbalance the game. Nothing is forcing you to switch to crystals. They're boosting their damage because they are changing the base stats on orbs. Either keep your orbs (which you, as a fa, ARENT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE USING according to what the developpers originally wanted) or start looking for new crystals. Be glad you actually learn about it way before we get the update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathlymonkey View Post
    If they allow us to change xtals into orbs they need to allow us to do the opposite and also change blades to katana and to gs and to daikat etc
    That would totally unbalance the game. Nothing is forcing you to switch to crystals. They're boosting their damage because they are changing the base stats on orbs. Either keep your orbs (which you, as a fa, ARENT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE USING according to what the developpers originally wanted) or start looking for new crystals. Be glad you actually learn about it way before we get the update.
    1. Cabal's next update IS forcing FA to switch to xtals, http://mrwormy.wordpress.com/2012/11...output-damage/ i.e. 2 xtals would give a 40% dmg boost. They did this to balance different stat boost to other classes.

    2. "Either keep your orbs (which you, as a fa, ARENT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE USING according to what the developpers originally wanted)"

    You don't need to spend extra int for wearing xtal because our battlesuit covers the requirements already. Majority of FA are orb users and NOT xtal users for the following reasons

    a) Orbs have a slightly higher attack
    b) They have a higher sale value

    For FA, Orb and Xtals currently gives approximately the same stat and majority of the FA are using orbs similar to how Blade and Katana don't make a difference to BL. GS and Daikat is a bad example, because it gives the buyer a choice and the logical choice is using a GS. The correct example is forcing all FB to use a Katana instead of Blade or forcing all BL to use a blade instead of katana.

    It will cause imbalance how ? People can use 2x xtals regardless. It is just xferring the same stat to a crystal so FA can continue to use their existing weapons instead of buying new ones. Many FA spend a lot of resources upgrading their Orb and using an SEH, some even +15ed the forcium orbs, etc.
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    I remember when the class binding gears forced people to use their respective class's armor (armorset, martial, battle, etc)

    If they didn't have any option to change your osm armorset into osm battle or martial (sad day for heavy BL's and FB's :P) then they won't have any option to change your orbs to crystals.

    Tons of people put in time/money/effort to get their osm set back then too; just as tons of people put in time/money/effort to get their orbs. Doesn't mean they will/should change our orbs into crystals for us.

    Best thing you can do is sell your orbs and buy new crystals; i'd also like to note that before the legacy of darkness, many people sold their armor to buy martial/battle, since we got those patch notes a few months early too

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumtwizzler View Post
    1. Cabal's next update IS forcing FA to switch to xtals, http://mrwormy.wordpress.com/2012/11...output-damage/ i.e. 2 xtals would give a 40% dmg boost. They did this to balance different stat boost to other classes.

    2. "Either keep your orbs (which you, as a fa, ARENT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE USING according to what the developpers originally wanted)"

    You don't need to spend extra int for wearing xtal because our battlesuit covers the requirements already. Majority of FA are orb users and NOT xtal users for the following reasons

    a) Orbs have a slightly higher attack
    b) They have a higher sale value

    For FA, Orb and Xtals currently gives approximately the same stat and majority of the FA are using orbs similar to how Blade and Katana don't make a difference to BL. GS and Daikat is a bad example, because it gives the buyer a choice and the logical choice is using a GS. The correct example is forcing all FB to use a Katana instead of Blade or forcing all BL to use a blade instead of katana.

    It will cause imbalance how ? People can use 2x xtals regardless. It is just xferring the same stat to a crystal so FA can continue to use their existing weapons instead of buying new ones. Many FA spend a lot of resources upgrading their Orb and using an SEH, some even +15ed the forcium orbs, etc.
    1. No it isn't forcing you to switch to crystals. It's giving you an incentive to switch to crystals to profit from the damage boost. That's like saying someone is forcing you to get a new car because the new model coming out can go faster than what you currently have.

    2. Once again, you are NOT supposed to be using orbs. Look at your orb. Which class is written on there? Oh, surprise! Wizard! Now look at a crystal. Which class was it made for? Force Archers. As you stated you FAs went to orbs because it lets you have a slightly higher base m.atk. However, that's not what you were designed to use in the first place.

    Oh and don't bring up the sale value. The only reason orbs cost more than crystals is BECAUSE of force archers and FS/FB using orbs. If FS and FS both go back to crystals like they were meant to the prices will be pretty equal.


    3. Such an item would cause imbalance how? It looks kinda obvious to me. Imagine if someone could, for example, change those fail 14% m.amp FB suits into FA suits. You're telling me that wouldn't imbalance the game and advantage certain people/classes? It's pretty much the same thing here, except we're talking about weapon change instead of class change.

    If you had enough alz to extend your orbs and +15 forci orbs, then it means you probably have enough alz to get new crystals. If your orbs are so good then you should be able to re-sell them and fund your new weapons. And if you think your orbs can't be replaced, then keep them. As I stated nothing is forcing you to switch to crystals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathlymonkey View Post
    1. No it isn't forcing you to switch to crystals. It's giving you an incentive to switch to crystals to profit from the damage boost. That's like saying someone is forcing you to get a new car because the new model coming out can go faster than what you currently have.

    2. Once again, you are NOT supposed to be using orbs. Look at your orb. Which class is written on there? Oh, surprise! Wizard! Now look at a crystal. Which class was it made for? Force Archers. As you stated you FAs went to orbs because it lets you have a slightly higher base m.atk. However, that's not what you were designed to use in the first place.

    Oh and don't bring up the sale value. The only reason orbs cost more than crystals is BECAUSE of force archers and FS/FB using orbs. If FS and FS both go back to crystals like they were meant to the prices will be pretty equal.


    3. Such an item would cause imbalance how? It looks kinda obvious to me. Imagine if someone could, for example, change those fail 14% m.amp FB suits into FA suits. You're telling me that wouldn't imbalance the game and advantage certain people/classes? It's pretty much the same thing here, except we're talking about weapon change instead of class change.

    If you had enough alz to extend your orbs and +15 forci orbs, then it means you probably have enough alz to get new crystals. If your orbs are so good then you should be able to re-sell them and fund your new weapons. And if you think your orbs can't be replaced, then keep them. As I stated nothing is forcing you to switch to crystals.
    I agree with bre

    Technically nobody is forcing heavy FB's to go back to battleset either! ;o

    Can't just ask for your armor to change to battle, and can't just ask for your orbs to be changed to crystals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forumtwizzler View Post
    1. Cabal's next update IS forcing FA to switch to xtals, http://mrwormy.wordpress.com/2012/11...output-damage/ i.e. 2 xtals would give a 40% dmg boost. They did this to balance different stat boost to other classes.

    2. "Either keep your orbs (which you, as a fa, ARENT EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE USING according to what the developpers originally wanted)"

    You don't need to spend extra int for wearing xtal because our battlesuit covers the requirements already. Majority of FA are orb users and NOT xtal users for the following reasons

    a) Orbs have a slightly higher attack
    b) They have a higher sale value

    For FA, Orb and Xtals currently gives approximately the same stat and majority of the FA are using orbs similar to how Blade and Katana don't make a difference to BL. GS and Daikat is a bad example, because it gives the buyer a choice and the logical choice is using a GS. The correct example is forcing all FB to use a Katana instead of Blade or forcing all BL to use a blade instead of katana.

    It will cause imbalance how ? People can use 2x xtals regardless. It is just xferring the same stat to a crystal so FA can continue to use their existing weapons instead of buying new ones. Many FA spend a lot of resources upgrading their Orb and using an SEH, some even +15ed the forcium orbs, etc.
    umm idk if you know but this game is called Cabal The Revolution of Action idk if this answer anything about this game.4 years of playing and u still dont know how this game works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sea View Post
    umm idk if you know but this game is called Cabal The Revolution of Action idk if this answer anything about this game.4 years of playing and u still dont know how this game works.
    This is why it's called a Suggestion Corner where 99.99% of FA carrying orbs (anyone who knows a semi-useful FA carrying Crystals ? ), for obvious reasons don't have to go changing their weapons. A simple FA buff would be a good replacement ... if what I suggested doesn't change your build why are you here ? But then again ... some people just don't have a small brain, it's just empty.

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