Extreme Upgrade

**ddnquang** · 07-09-2014, 01:40 AM

Just wondering how is everyone experience with the extreme upgrade system lately. I guess something has been changed. I got all reset and broken even with high level extreme cores for multiple times and those silver repair kits are clearly not 50% success rate. I had to use 7 of them just to repair a broken orb. I did extreme all my gears to lv 1 and 2 before but it wasn't this kinda hard. I wasted more than 20 if not 30 vouchers just to get all reset and broken, now all my gears are reset and I'm broke af. GMs if you are passing by and see this thread please let me know if anything is changed. I didnt put my money into those ecoins for this kinda XXX (check my ecoin refill history and you will see). Haters please dont ask why i put money onto a FTP game

**Imunique** · 07-09-2014, 03:43 AM

you are not the only one crying here. we just know that higher lvl cores give higher success rate, but we don't know how much (base on my experience, it's 1% each lvl for each core) and 50% in cabal can be like 10% or 90% in the real life. So, better luck next time

**aientd311** · 07-09-2014, 06:51 AM

They changed the rate for sure, upgrade rate, extreme, option upgrade rate.... If u want to compete with top geared players, ofc u need to spend at least as much money as them and also get lucky ^^

**Enso** · 07-09-2014, 12:03 PM

rng

**providen1990** · 07-10-2014, 03:27 AM

RNG in this game is OP one person can get all the luck and the other always get bad stuff. Idk if you guy like it but for me it is ridiculous, something is just wrong with this RNG.
I know a person who plus gear, belt... and earn billions in contrast I know a lots other who spend billions to + their gear. I know a person who run FT2, eod2 and get rings so frequent and many others who never seen rings drop for the 100th times. I know a person who open 30 trophies and get 5 golden ball and one who open 100 and get 2.
I think that the chance appear in game is actually less than it states, and you don't even get % indication for extreme upgrade you only know that the higher lvl the better and sometime, it is not even feel right.
You should give the GM your char name if you want them to check your record

**Enso** · 07-10-2014, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by providen1990

RNG in this game is OP one person can get all the luck and the other always get bad stuff. Idk if you guy like it but for me it is ridiculous, something is just wrong with this RNG.
I know a person who plus gear, belt... and earn billions in contrast I know a lots other who spend billions to + their gear. I know a person who run FT2, eod2 and get rings so frequent and many others who never seen rings drop for the 100th times. I know a person who open 30 trophies and get 5 golden ball and one who open 100 and get 2.
I think that the chance appear in game is actually less than it states, and you don't even get % indication for extreme upgrade you only know that the higher lvl the better and sometime, it is not even feel right.
You should give the GM your char name if you want them to check your record

http://www.random.org/integers/?num=...t=html&rnd=new

Check it out. Even with a good rng (which Cabal probably doesn't use, since it needs speed over "randomness"), you still can fail a 90% success chance three times in a row.

**i sell stuff** · 07-26-2014, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Enso

http://www.random.org/integers/?num=...t=html&rnd=new

Check it out. Even with a good rng (which Cabal probably doesn't use, since it needs speed over "randomness"), you still can fail a 90% success chance three times in a row.

I'm not exactly sure what this means. Can you explain it? Thank you.

**Enso** · 07-26-2014, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by i sell stuff

I'm not exactly sure what this means. Can you explain it? Thank you.

Computing good random numbers is expensive. It's likely that Cabal can't afford those calculations on everything that requires a random number to be generated, given the volume of requests.