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[Andrea]

Prior to the m/a, I managed to degrade a +9 helm to +3, blew a +5 Talisman gone, and wasted 25m alz thus far. It coulda easzily been 100 if the m/a didn't stop me cold. Can you top that (un)luck?

Believe me, upgrading won't get any better after the server merger. Blew my last chance at having decent + accs and helm

[The Scrub]

Went from +5-14 trying to get points from a character bound helm :^)

[ToasterStrudel]

ermahgerd i lost 100m. such wow. much loss. so luck.

[Kyomu]

So how much do upgrade points help? Especially for talismans and belts?

[Delayed]

1k pts increases chances by 1%. For gear and belts, +9 to +15 is 36% chance. Upgrade Pts wont reduce the -2 chances upon failure doe. That's why it's recommended to use enhanced or superiors mostly. The talisman, i'm pretty sure it's a fixed 20% for +6 to +10. 10k pts for +6 and 15k pts for above sounds alright.


EDIT: it's not +8 to +15, it's +9 to +15

[ToasterStrudel]

1k pts increases chances by 1%. For gear and belts, +8 to +15 is 36% chance. Upgrade Pts wont reduce the -2 chances upon failure doe. That's why it's recommended to use enhanced or superiors mostly. The talisman, i'm pretty sure it's a fixed 20% for +6 to +10. 10k pts for +6 and 15k pts for above sounds alright.

Source.

[Delayed]

It's stuff I saw somewhere.

I think it was even you guys who posted it.

[Enso]

It's stuff I saw somewhere.

I think it was even you guys who posted it.

Like 30 seconds on forum search (TL;DR, no one has a clue):

7600 points, No SGHH, Regular cores only, I haven't failed anything over 8600 points because 100 points = 1% success rate increase.

Yes, I have failed at +14-+15, And I got 1400 points for playing.

It's very quite simple really.

+11 item, Upgrade and fails....you get 1100 upgrade points

+7 item, Upgrade and fails....you get 700 upgrade points

+9 item, Upgrade and fails....you get 900 upgrade points

ALWAYS




*And 100 points = 1% success bonus, trust me, I know.

I think the same way 1000points~1% . FYI I once failed 11 times in a row with silver repair kit (50% success rate)

I'd like to think that estimation is off, and it acts more similarly to evasion (100 = 1%) where there is an undisclosed soft cap at probably 5-6k. Remember Mr. Wormy's core guide? Keep that in mind when using non-normal cores (SCX+ECX). That means that even with 3k pts (30% bonus), and let's say 4x enhanced core high's going from +11, you still only have a 30.4% chance of success but a 47.6% chance of -1, and -48% (0%) chance of -2.

As for Chaos cores, they act the same as normal uch in %.

1. Just the animation was removed
2. Vital Bless was merged into Vital Force, so now Vital Force gives HP restore as well as HP
3. There are 5 things to click in IC1, you have to click the third one.
4. Upgrade points are bull. It's estimated that 1k upgrade points equals 1% higher chance, but they're still bull.

[doomer123]

false information as usual *clap clap*

[krad]

Lol...