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    Unhappy New War Video (FB)

    Messed up the editing by leaving the border but w/e, enjoy.

    Last edited by MhyCheese; 08-22-2015 at 09:11 PM.

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    Well I'd say you're improving. There was one time in that video when dashing and fading in combo was a net positive. Though to be honest, it just seems like your defense is not up for blocking. In BM1, an FB's HP shouldn't be moving at all really with fewer than six or seven people or it just plain isn't effective. Backing out after a few seconds before actually killing anyone in a group is kind of a no-op.

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    Thanks. My defence isn't the greatest nor my resist and tend to have a huge target on my back. Honestly my intentions were to just distract them because I knew that i'd just die going into a huge group like that. Did manage to get a warrior and a wiz and think a bl's attention for a few seconds. That was my goal, to slow the push a tad bit. Was worried about being rooted so I tried to stay on the outside that way if I got rooted it wasn't right in the middle of the group where I'd just roll over and die.

    Appreciate you pointing those things out though. I'll keep them in mind.

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    in the first kill where you rooted the Blader, was there really a point in dashing for such a short distance, mind you, when he's rooted?
    nice tactic on the distracting though, wish fade in combo actually detargeted

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToasterStrudel View Post
    in the first kill where you rooted the Blader, was there really a point in dashing for such a short distance, mind you, when he's rooted?
    nice tactic on the distracting though, wish fade in combo actually detargeted
    I dash every time there's a distance between me and the person im trying to kill. Unless my force kick isn't on cooldown then i'll tend to use that instead. Think that If i had used a filler without dashing my character would have walked a bit before he engaged. Also, don't like to start my attacks with sod or cataclysm even if they are rooted. Dash/Fade is 2nd nature to me at this point. Takes no effort anymore, its muscle memory.

    Thanks, would like to improve as a player and any constructive criticism is welcomed.

    Will be uploading another one this coming monday, hope to keep you guys entertained for the next few weeks maybe months.

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    Awesome sig BTW, cracked up the first time saw it lol.

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    When attacking in a big pack of enemies he starts to do fillers and HP downs on 1 guy only. Whenever he tries to do 3 big AoEs, his combo stops because of lag and Downs from enemies. The guy is good at running away.
    Fun fact, some HP absorb and high limit per hit, can make AoE heavy combos make you last longer when surrounded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delayed View Post
    When attacking in a big pack of enemies he starts to do fillers and HP downs on 1 guy only. Whenever he tries to do 3 big AoEs, his combo stops because of lag and Downs from enemies. The guy is good at running away.
    Fun fact, some HP absorb and high limit per hit, can make AoE heavy combos make you last longer when surrounded.
    Am not trying to play for score. If score was my goal then yes i'd stick to my aoe's. Trying to kill someone by spamming aoe's isn't going to do that unless i outgeared them by a lot which i don't. High hp absorb and hp limit is not going to save you from 5 guys teaming up on you unless you have the defence and resist crit dmg to back it up. HR 20 is not sufficient alone. These days everyone is walking around with +15 forcy weapon and a lot with amp sloted gear.

    Ive noticed a huge difference from say 4-5 months ago in dps compared to now. Before I was much less geared and could withstand an entire root. Now I'm more geared and die almost instantly. Ive adapted my gameplay to people's dps. So yes, i do run a lot because im very well aware of 1 root = death. In the end I'm contributing to my nation. 1 person distracting a group of people worth it? Think a lot of people would agree it is.

    What are you doing in war? Farming? I like farmers, we need them and i get to do what I like because of them which is defend but you guys dont do anything special. Anyone can do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MhyCheese View Post
    Am not trying to play for score. If score was my goal then yes i'd stick to my aoe's. Trying to kill someone by spamming aoe's isn't going to do that unless i outgeared them by a lot which i don't. High hp absorb and hp limit is not going to save you from 5 guys teaming up on you unless you have the defence and resist crit dmg to back it up. HR 20 is not sufficient alone. These days everyone is walking around with +15 forcy weapon and a lot with amp sloted gear.

    Ive noticed a huge difference from say 4-5 months ago in dps compared to now. Before I was much less geared and could withstand an entire root. Now I'm more geared and die almost instantly. Ive adapted my gameplay to people's dps. So yes, i do run a lot because im very well aware of 1 root = death. In the end I'm contributing to my nation. 1 person distracting a group of people worth it? Think a lot of people would agree it is.

    What are you doing in war? Farming? I like farmers, we need them and i get to do what I like because of them which is defend but you guys dont do anything special. Anyone can do it.
    If you're dying in one root, you shouldn't be engaging in that situation to start with.

    To really be effective defending you have to either make the opponents hit *you*, or kill them outright. I think it's clear you don't wipe out waves, so your only remaining option is to make caps hit you instead of the guard. But when they do that, you run within a few seconds.

    Look at this. Before other people showed up, notice how all five procs are hitting me (and debuffing, which I notice you rarely get if at all). Those 30 seconds, three of them wasted 20% of their BM3 time and 2/3 of the FB blew their root. Not only that, but I got my team to come kill them because I knew I wouldn't do enough damage on my own. When I backed out, it was after 50 seconds of constantly taking damage.

    Or here. Within one combo they were all either dead or low enough the wizards could pick them off, and they had done a whopping 3k damage to me as well as wasting a panic cry.

    Or here. Are you really sure one root is one kill for everyone? How many procs do you think are there? I count eleven or twelve. After the root hits, only two or three are actually hitting the guard. Not to mention pretty much every debuff in the book except for panic cry. At the end of the first root, my HP is somewhere around 45-50k.

    Notice how technical ability is essentially of zero importance.

    If you can't do things like that, it's very likely defending is not an effective strategy for contributing to your nation. If it's just what you like best and that's why you do it, that's fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enso View Post
    If you're dying in one root, you shouldn't be engaging in that situation to start with.

    To really be effective defending you have to either make the opponents hit *you*, or kill them outright. I think it's clear you don't wipe out waves, so your only remaining option is to make caps hit you instead of the guard. But when they do that, you run within a few seconds.

    Look at this. Before other people showed up, notice how all five procs are hitting me (and debuffing, which I notice you rarely get if at all). Those 30 seconds, three of them wasted 20% of their BM3 time and 2/3 of the FB blew their root. Not only that, but I got my team to come kill them because I knew I wouldn't do enough damage on my own. When I backed out, it was after 50 seconds of constantly taking damage.

    Or here. Within one combo they were all either dead or low enough the wizards could pick them off, and they had done a whopping 3k damage to me as well as wasting a panic cry.

    Or here. Are you really sure one root is one kill for everyone? How many procs do you think are there? I count eleven or twelve. After the root hits, only two or three are actually hitting the guard. Not to mention pretty much every debuff in the book except for panic cry. At the end of the first root, my HP is somewhere around 45-50k.

    Notice how technical ability is essentially of zero importance.

    If you can't do things like that, it's very likely defending is not an effective strategy for contributing to your nation. If it's just what you like best and that's why you do it, that's fine.
    Didn't say for everyone. Was obviously speaking of myself. Also the roots don;t ALWAYS kill me. Sometimes they don't even have a FB pushing with them which makes my defending a lot easier.

    Any time off the guard is dps wasted. If i can manage to get them to concentrate on me for 10-20 seconds then thats worth defending for. My defending isn't as bad as I'm making it out to be. Pretty obnoxious when it comes to it.

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