Are Botters Good for our economy?

[LaRazz]

Well, personaly I am a huge farmer. Always running some kind of a dungon or out seeking crafting mats. However, all this is getting harder. We see LID =500k / EOD = 2m (People looking for the ring)
SOD= 4m each. To just name a few... And once you hit 100+ the game becomes largely based upon dungons. So that leads me to my point! Are botters really good for our economy?

Discuss!

Positives - They bring down prices on dungons and what not, and bring in some epic items to our game.

Negitives - They support alz buyers and if you buy alz...well thats just lame....

*Note - Not trying to upset anyone, just food for though ^^

[Fishy]

to be honest. i never minded bots.....unless they were the ones in the Auto-Cannon Exs since there were always bots in every channel there and made getting your rank up coins a haha but sometimes they caused some pretty odd stuff to drop that i could just nab =]

[Berserk_Fury]

It is sad to say, but I feel that bots helped the economy quite a bit. The main thing is that they sell really cheap dungeon entries which help people make money, get gear and progress in crafting. The main bad point is that they get in the way of normal players.

[BleedingSoul]

There's no way to get rid of them though. Regardless if they help or not they're always going to be there.

[DVwizzy]

its a valid point.. they did kinda help.. darn you farmbots.. darn you..

[GuardianPat]

well i have nothing against the farmbots... just when you are low lvl and they ksing your mobs.

the only botters i hate the most are the ads spammers bots in town. you cant block them

[Sonic]

bots are such peniuses

[PSBeardy]

I would say using those same arguments then Alz buyers are just as good for the economy, they buy our epic drops, they keep the auction house flowing and most of all they employee the botters. See logic is fun.

[Sonic]

Logic-

An archaic custom or practice which anthropologists believe people of ancient times may have used to help influence their decision making ability. This lost art is sadly neither relevant nor present in the post-modern era.
To not provide an example would be beyond all logic.

[YumCookies]

Well for the people that spend hundreds and thousands buying alz from botters, they just ruin the conomy by driving up prices since they buy stuff for ridiculous prices...

[Berserk_Fury]

I would say using those same arguments then Alz buyers are just as good for the economy, they buy our epic drops, they keep the auction house flowing and most of all they employee the botters. See logic is fun.

Actually your logic is fail. People that buy alz buy jack up the prices of everything preventing the rest of us from getting items. Farmbots work the opposite way by making items more affordable.

[Leonhart]

I bought a year supply of 50k EODB1F one summer.

That took me forever to use up...

And now they're overpriced =_=

[PSBeardy]

Actually your logic is fail. People that buy alz buy jack up the prices of everything preventing the rest of us from getting items. Farmbots work the opposite way by making items more affordable.

No as the increased price benifits you as well, you get more for your items sold, its actually a zero sum game as far as inflation goes alz buyers would help more them botters if inflation was your concern. "Economists generally agree that high rates of inflation and hyperinflation are caused by an excessive growth of the money supply." This would be the fault of botters who are farming the alz. More money equals less value or artificially high prices of goods and services. the Alz buyers buy up these surpluses in alz and dump them on your goods which keeps the economy moving and consequently keeps the botters employed.

[Berserk_Fury]

No as the increased price benifits you as well, you get more for your items sold, its actually a zero sum game as far as inflation goes alz buyers would help more them botters if inflation was your concern. "Economists generally agree that high rates of inflation and hyperinflation are caused by an excessive growth of the money supply." This would be the fault of botters who are farming the alz. More money equals less value or artificially high prices of goods and services. the Alz buyers buy up these surpluses in alz and dump them on your goods which keeps the economy moving and consequently keeps the botters employed.

While it is true that alz buyers are keeping the botters going, it is not true that the alz buyers are helping the players. Sure they might buy that forcium amp drop you get for 3x the value, but what is the point of having that money if another alz buyer would just outbid you on anything that you try to get?

[TheLastWarrior]

Well, personaly I am a huge farmer. Always running some kind of a dungon or out seeking crafting mats. However, all this is getting harder. We see LID =500k / EOD = 2m (People looking for the ring)
SOD= 4m each. To just name a few... And once you hit 100+ the game becomes largely based upon dungons. So that leads me to my point! Are botters really good for our economy?

Discuss!

Positives - They bring down prices on dungons and what not, and bring in some epic items to our game.

Negitives - They support alz buyers and if you buy alz...well thats just lame....

*Note - Not trying to upset anyone, just food for though ^^

I don't know how positives is they bring down prices...

[rythemz]

Those botters helped me with basic crafting materials tbh ~

[SliverElixer]

i never really cared but bots are here there here thats all i got to say.

[DemonWrath]

i like normal bots o.o u..... (well my secret)

[LaRazz]

I don't know how positives is they bring down prices...

Thats it though,

4m for a SOD means you need at least 4 UCH just to break even.
It happens, but still there is more room for you to make alz with a lower dungon entry cost.
Know what I mean?

[PSBeardy]

It is in this instance a zero sum game.....less botters things would actually be much more expensive as all items would be rarer. This is not a true economy but I can say that if botters and alz buyers went away you would see little to no change as there is no zero level or minimum income in game you need to survive.