FT1 forcium crafting

[chainlock]

I'm just curious, is the chance to get amp in armor/suit/boots, the same as a weapon?

[meDeadly]

nope. getting amp in weapons has a way greater chance then getting amp in gloves/boots/suit. Maybe after 40 crafts you have it.

[chainlock]

nope. getting amp in weapons has a way greater chance then getting amp in gloves/boots/suit. Maybe after 40 crafts you have it.

It took me 37 to get an amp blade, and I've done 20 orbs/crystal each without amp yet, lol. Although, when someone goes with me they usually get 2-3 amps with 10 crafts......

[meDeadly]

my first katana craft was sword amp :3

[Berserk_Fury]

I think I've done over 100 FT crafts (mostly gloves, some boots, a couple of weapons), not a single amp.

[Mat]

I think I've done over 100 FT crafts (mostly gloves, some boots, a couple of weapons), not a single amp.

Maybe after the first 50 crafts you would have been a little smarter to know your chances aren't very good?

[sn0wXz]

Bro it takes about 5-10 crafts not even to get amp weaps; Dont mix armor in between fps, just do 3-4 of the same thing in a row, (blade, xstal); ive got prolly 10+ amp weaps from ft..

and its not worth it much anymore, theres still a few situations where people want forci amp on other hand ect, but unless you wanna +11 it yourself; not going to be huge profit room 25mish per craft -- be lucky to pull 300m outta it at +0

[Vontar]

I got s.amp foric blade first try <3

[macbowes]

I posted the rates of all the FT crafts a while ago; I'll go dig it up.

EDIT: Here you go.

FT Crafting

I've gone through and made this easy-to-read (for me, at least) guide that shows the possible craft options for each piece of gear, as well as their % chance (and chance out of 250).

GLOVES

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
Attack - 11% [27.5/250]
Defense Rate - 11% [27.5/250]
Attack Rate - 11% [27.5/250]
MP Steal % - 11% [27.5/250]
Slot Drop - 11% [27.5/250]
Skill EXP - 11% [27.5/250]
MP Auto Heal - 11% [27.5/250]
HP Auto Heal - 11% [27.5/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
HP Steal % - 0.4% [1/250]
Max Crit Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


BOOTS

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
HP Steal Limit - 0.4% [1/250]
Flee Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


SUIT

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
Max Crit Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Flee Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


HEADPIECE

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
2 Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
1 Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Steal Limit - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Steal Limit - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
Critical Damage - 0.4% [1/250]
Critical Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


ALL WEAPONS

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
Attack - 8% [20/250]
M. Attack - 8% [20/250]
2 Slot Drop - 8% [20/250]
Alz Drop - 8% [20/250]
1 Slot Drop - 8% [20/250]
Skill EXP - 8% [20/250]
Attack Rate - 8% [20/250]
Min Damage - 8% [20/250]
Add Damage - 8% [20/250]
Magic Amp - 8% [20/250]
Sword Amp - 8% [20/250]
Critical Damage - 1% [2.5/250]
Critical Rate - 1% [2.5/250]

Yes, Sword and Magic amp have higher craft rates than crit damage and crit rate, this is not a mistake.
EDIT: The '~' indicates that the rate isn't exact, it's actually something like 12.514%.

[chainlock]

I posted the rates of all the FT crafts a while ago; I'll go dig it up.

EDIT: Here you go.

FT Crafting

I've gone through and made this easy-to-read (for me, at least) guide that shows the possible craft options for each piece of gear, as well as their % chance (and chance out of 250).

GLOVES

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
Attack - 11% [27.5/250]
Defense Rate - 11% [27.5/250]
Attack Rate - 11% [27.5/250]
MP Steal % - 11% [27.5/250]
Slot Drop - 11% [27.5/250]
Skill EXP - 11% [27.5/250]
MP Auto Heal - 11% [27.5/250]
HP Auto Heal - 11% [27.5/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
HP Steal % - 0.4% [1/250]
Max Crit Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


BOOTS

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
HP Steal Limit - 0.4% [1/250]
Flee Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


SUIT

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
Max Crit Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Flee Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


HEADPIECE

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
2 Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
1 Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Steal Limit - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Steal Limit - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
Critical Damage - 0.4% [1/250]
Critical Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


ALL WEAPONS

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
Attack - 8% [20/250]
M. Attack - 8% [20/250]
2 Slot Drop - 8% [20/250]
Alz Drop - 8% [20/250]
1 Slot Drop - 8% [20/250]
Skill EXP - 8% [20/250]
Attack Rate - 8% [20/250]
Min Damage - 8% [20/250]
Add Damage - 8% [20/250]
Magic Amp - 8% [20/250]
Sword Amp - 8% [20/250]
Critical Damage - 1% [2.5/250]
Critical Rate - 1% [2.5/250]

Yes, Sword and Magic amp have higher craft rates than crit damage and crit rate, this is not a mistake.
EDIT: The '~' indicates that the rate isn't exact, it's actually something like 12.514%.

That helps, but where did you get the info. Did you open the game files? If so, have you re-checked since the latest update?

[macbowes]

These are from the most recent game files.

[Berserk_Fury]

These are from the most recent game files.

Must be nice to get data from game files, that isn't in the game files, like any other droprates.

[TitusTyrannus]

It took me 37 to get an amp blade, and I've done 20 orbs/crystal each without amp yet, lol. Although, when someone goes with me they usually get 2-3 amps with 10 crafts......

I got a s.amp blade in my 3rd craft and a m.amp orb in my 2nd craft. yays

[macbowes]

Must be nice to get data from game files, that isn't in the game files, like any other droprates.

It is indeed.

[PunaniKiller]

I posted the rates of all the FT crafts a while ago; I'll go dig it up.

EDIT: Here you go.

FT Crafting

I've gone through and made this easy-to-read (for me, at least) guide that shows the possible craft options for each piece of gear, as well as their % chance (and chance out of 250).

GLOVES

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
Attack - 11% [27.5/250]
Defense Rate - 11% [27.5/250]
Attack Rate - 11% [27.5/250]
MP Steal % - 11% [27.5/250]
Slot Drop - 11% [27.5/250]
Skill EXP - 11% [27.5/250]
MP Auto Heal - 11% [27.5/250]
HP Auto Heal - 11% [27.5/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
HP Steal % - 0.4% [1/250]
Max Crit Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


BOOTS

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
HP Steal Limit - 0.4% [1/250]
Flee Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


SUIT

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
Max Crit Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Flee Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


HEADPIECE

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
2 Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
1 Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Steal Limit - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Steal Limit - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
Critical Damage - 0.4% [1/250]
Critical Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


ALL WEAPONS

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
Attack - 8% [20/250]
M. Attack - 8% [20/250]
2 Slot Drop - 8% [20/250]
Alz Drop - 8% [20/250]
1 Slot Drop - 8% [20/250]
Skill EXP - 8% [20/250]
Attack Rate - 8% [20/250]
Min Damage - 8% [20/250]
Add Damage - 8% [20/250]
Magic Amp - 8% [20/250]
Sword Amp - 8% [20/250]
Critical Damage - 1% [2.5/250]
Critical Rate - 1% [2.5/250]

Yes, Sword and Magic amp have higher craft rates than crit damage and crit rate, this is not a mistake.
EDIT: The '~' indicates that the rate isn't exact, it's actually something like 12.514%.



lol? i got two forcy fa m amp gloves in 10 gloves... one m amp boots in 5 boots... 1 BL s amp suit in 10 suits... that chart is BS its alllll luck

[macbowes]

lol? i got two forcy fa m amp gloves in 10 gloves... one m amp boots in 5 boots... 1 BL s amp suit in 10 suits... that chart is BS its alllll luck

If you're not full of (which you are), then you were just incredibly lucky. Having good luck doesn't mean that chart is wrong, it just means that you got lucky.

I swear, 90% of CABAL players don't even have a 9th grade understanding of probability.

[PunaniKiller]

If you're not full of (which you are), then you were just incredibly lucky. Having good luck doesn't mean that chart is wrong, it just means that you got lucky.

I swear, 90% of CABAL players don't even have a 9th grade understanding of probability.

lol........ full of sh/it ahahahahah u make me laugh...... there is no probability in this game its ALL luck... u can fantasize about probability if u want though lol

[otice1]

I don't understand what probability means

fix'd

[macbowes]

lol........ full of I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥ ahahahahah u make me laugh...... there is not probability in this game its ALL luck... u can fantasize about probability if u want though lol

You're literally retarded. These rates are coded into the game, but that doesn't mean that in every 250 boxes you open you will get 1 amp piece. All that means is that on average, you will get 1 amp piece per 250 boxes opened. What you claim to have happened would be considered an anomaly.

[YAAAAAHAAAA]

Bla Bla Bla what ever YAYA...its all luck buddy no need for guide or anything...got it...crafting is all luck maybe u can make ratings or calculate everything on drop not on craft..^_^ peace Y.

[Rastan]

I'd be content if I even got a mutant energy ball,15 runs today and nuthin but a full inventory page of FCH's to show for it

[Coneney]

Want to improve the item too difficult

[CriSai]

Rng

[macbowes]

Rng

This

[GoAway]

I posted the rates of all the FT crafts a while ago; I'll go dig it up.

EDIT: Here you go.

FT Crafting

I've gone through and made this easy-to-read (for me, at least) guide that shows the possible craft options for each piece of gear, as well as their % chance (and chance out of 250).

GLOVES

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
Attack - 11% [27.5/250]
Defense Rate - 11% [27.5/250]
Attack Rate - 11% [27.5/250]
MP Steal % - 11% [27.5/250]
Slot Drop - 11% [27.5/250]
Skill EXP - 11% [27.5/250]
MP Auto Heal - 11% [27.5/250]
HP Auto Heal - 11% [27.5/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
HP Steal % - 0.4% [1/250]
Max Crit Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


BOOTS

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
HP Steal Limit - 0.4% [1/250]
Flee Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


SUIT

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Auto Heal - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
Max Crit Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Flee Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


HEADPIECE

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
MP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Defense Rate - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
2 Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Alz Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
1 Slot Drop - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
Skill EXP - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
MP Steal Limit - 12.5%~ [31.25/250]
HP Steal Limit - 0.4% [1/250]
Defense - 0.4% [1/250]
Critical Damage - 0.4% [1/250]
Critical Rate - 0.4% [1/250]
Sword Amp - 0.4% [1/250]
Magic Amp - 0.4% [1/250]


ALL WEAPONS

Slot Option - % Chance [Odds out of 250]

Clean - 10% [25/250]
Attack - 8% [20/250]
M. Attack - 8% [20/250]
2 Slot Drop - 8% [20/250]
Alz Drop - 8% [20/250]
1 Slot Drop - 8% [20/250]
Skill EXP - 8% [20/250]
Attack Rate - 8% [20/250]
Min Damage - 8% [20/250]
Add Damage - 8% [20/250]
Magic Amp - 8% [20/250]
Sword Amp - 8% [20/250]
Critical Damage - 1% [2.5/250]
Critical Rate - 1% [2.5/250]

Yes, Sword and Magic amp have higher craft rates than crit damage and crit rate, this is not a mistake.
EDIT: The '~' indicates that the rate isn't exact, it's actually something like 12.514%.

is it possible to get upgrading gears statistics?

[Berserk_Fury]

is it possible to get upgrading gears statistics?

He can't get any statistics. Game files don't have this kind of info in them.

[TitusTyrannus]

Want to improve the item too difficult

wtf are you saying. this is the second time youve commented on something ive looked at and I have no idea what the hell you are talking about O_O

[Jelly]

These so-called "rates" u posted are bs. This information can only be found server-side. Unless you are t3h ub3r pr0 h4xor (which ur not) then u dont have access to this info.

[macbowes]

These so-called "rates" u posted are bs. This information can only be found server-side. Unless you are t3h ub3r pr0 h4xor (which ur not) then u dont have access to this info.

Think that if you like, I only posted them so people know what they're getting themselves into when trying to craft amp gear in FT.

[MandaloreTheIndomitible]

SS the file location or I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥.

[PSBeardy]

Drop rates are all server side or they could be hacked, ask Snow he would be able to explain better.

[macbowes]

People are making it seem like nobody has access to these server side files.

Here's the server-side file.

http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=73245569545375936022

[sn0wXz]

i cant prove him wrong, ive never bothered with any .enc files, or "server-sided" files as hes implying.

besides its somewhat insignificant; everybody knows amp in weaps ect is relatively easy; and amp in armor is harder, it dont take hard statistics from the game files to prove that much; just youtube any ft crafting; remember this is probability not rate at which it HAS to meet, theoritically you could get amp in first armor craft, but everyone knows players were abusing ft2 glitch back in ogp to obtain amp from ft cube without having to waste alz.

ive personally seen ft crafts of around 50~ armor piece; and only 1 was amp. So reguardless if its real or not, i would say its pretty accurate; i dont even pay attention to the speds who imply they got 5 armor pieces from ft crafting in 5 tries or something...just dont even bother lol its waste of time responding. im sure if it was higher then .04% people would be actually attempting ft crafts, i havnt seen the mats this low in a while; just because of all the forci db weaps ect dropping from ic2....

[macbowes]

i cant prove him wrong, ive never bothered with any .enc files, or "server-sided" files as hes implying.

besides its somewhat insignificant; everybody knows amp in weaps ect is relatively easy; and amp in armor is harder, it dont take hard statistics from the game files to prove that much; just youtube any ft crafting; remember this is probability not rate at which it HAS to meet, theoritically you could get amp in first armor craft, but everyone knows players were abusing ft2 glitch back in ogp to obtain amp from ft cube without having to waste alz.

ive personally seen ft crafts of around 50~ armor piece; and only 1 was amp. So reguardless if its real or not, i would say its pretty accurate; i dont even pay attention to the speds who imply they got 5 armor pieces from ft crafting in 5 tries or something...just dont even bother lol its waste of time responding. im sure if it was higher then .04% people would be actually attempting ft crafts, i havnt seen the mats this low in a while; just because of all the forci db weaps ect dropping from ic2....

It's actually even easier than worrying about .enc files, all the rates for items that are opened and can give you a random item have their rates stored in the OptionPool.scp

[jkaza]

macbowes,

Good sir, I feel your pain. It is a great misfortune that far more than the majority of players in this community not only lack a fundamental understanding in probability and statistics, but refuse to believe systematic reasoning.

But there are some of us out there who appreciate cold, hard numbers.

Thank you sir.
jkaza

[Fhear]

Crunching numbers is always a pleasure. And even though IC2 is dropping CD stuff, you still need amp gloves/boots/armor, right?