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GoAway
01-08-2011, 04:50 PM
cabal servers seem to be delaying quite a bit, especially when comboing
anyone having this problem?

Kuja
01-08-2011, 05:05 PM
Mine has been doing this since I logged in 2 hours ago, its lags up and shows no animation of any kind for up to 3 minutes at a time. when its lagging chat and everything else still works but character animation and anyone moving around doesnt update at all, i.e people running in place and dashing across map instantly. taking about 2-3 minutes just to attempt to log in right now and takes a huge amount of time to load things like guild board, cash shop and agent shop. also d/cing constantly cuz of this lag, several friends and their guildies also getting this lag but seems to not effect everyone o.o

Sryinex
01-08-2011, 05:06 PM
Yep, having the same issue. Others I know are not having this problem. So it seems to be either ISP specific or location specific. It was semi-tolerable until about 20 minutes ago, now it is completely unplayable.

GoAway
01-08-2011, 05:11 PM
yep, now unable to log on at all

bammbamm
01-08-2011, 05:16 PM
Started getting the lag like 4 hrs ago, but it was tolerable.
At this point, i get 30 sec lag every time i try to atk something in bm2, needless to say i cant war or dungeon for sht atm
Oh look, 2nd random dc from server in 10 min just now, and all im doing is dancing, fun game fun game

Sryinex
01-08-2011, 05:22 PM
Yeah, can't even load the website without waiting forever. Not gonna even try to get back in till the website loads without problem.

PopThatCherry
01-08-2011, 05:25 PM
Yep, been going on for 2 days now.... random DC's 10-30sec lagg spikes. And when i dc it's server related because i don't dc from team speak or anything else that is in use of my net. Fairly annoying, please fix est.

GoAway
01-08-2011, 05:38 PM
doubt anything is gonna happen til monday =\

Campus
01-08-2011, 05:42 PM
the site and the game are all laggy to me

Malki
01-08-2011, 05:47 PM
Usually lag free but today it's so bad that Cabal isn't playable. I'm in Michigan , for reference, in case it's region specific to the East Coast or some such shizz.

bammbamm
01-08-2011, 06:13 PM
Usually lag free but today it's so bad that Cabal isn't playable. I'm in Michigan , for reference, in case it's region specific to the East Coast or some such shizz.

west coast here, so i doubt it

LILCHAOLAO
01-08-2011, 06:15 PM
Im laggy too, everyone in my channel is complaining about it too

cerverus3
01-08-2011, 06:29 PM
Yeah, can't even load the website without waiting forever. Not gonna even try to get back in till the website loads without problem.

same here =O

cerverus3
01-08-2011, 06:31 PM
cant event post on here this blows

Sryinex
01-08-2011, 06:34 PM
It'll work for a second, then stop. Maybe they are working on it or something.

Kuja
01-08-2011, 06:47 PM
forums are loading faster than before now for me, but game is just about unplayable its so laggy

Ched
01-08-2011, 06:51 PM
same for me, both website and the game...
can't do dungeons..

davis209
01-08-2011, 07:12 PM
i live on west coast and same, game is laggy and i cant even log in now, get random dcs but doesnt log me out and it just blows -.-zz

Ched
01-08-2011, 07:20 PM
yea and i'm from west coast too..

Sryinex
01-08-2011, 07:28 PM
Comcast here as well~

Memphis, TN area.

HazyDance
01-08-2011, 07:36 PM
*sigh* I thought I was the only one having this issue. It was alright it the morning, but got way worse by later afternoon. Massive latency.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1103407408.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Malki
01-08-2011, 07:46 PM
The common denominator is starting to look like Comcast.

Sryinex
01-08-2011, 07:49 PM
I'm back in with little to no evident lag, same for everyone else?

cerverus3
01-08-2011, 07:50 PM
looks like but web still loading a lil bit slow

Ched
01-08-2011, 07:51 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1103416874.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

same for me... it started to get laggy like arround 2pm PST

Sryinex
01-08-2011, 07:55 PM
Spoke too soon...it's back.

Ched
01-08-2011, 07:57 PM
its getting worst again lolol

bammbamm
01-08-2011, 07:58 PM
rofl mine is even worse, under 5 mbps dl speed and 150+ pings, and unfortunately comcast

Berserk_Fury
01-08-2011, 08:00 PM
Yup, that's what happens when you use comcast...

Verizon FIOS here, 0 problems. Oh and...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1103423959.png

cerverus3
01-08-2011, 08:01 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1103424444.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
and still getting lag T^T

Sryinex
01-08-2011, 08:03 PM
Yup, that's what happens when you use comcast...

Verizon FIOS here, 0 problems. Oh and...

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1103423959.png

You say that like it's available everywhere...or even most places lol.

There is no choice here, only Comcast.

Tramier
01-08-2011, 08:24 PM
comcast here as well, but i spent 50 min on the phone with em runnin tests on multiple computers, its not there internet...there seems to be a issue with cabal's software because the rep i talked to from comcast plays cabal too, and actually downloaded the game while i was on the phone, and had the same issues at work.....Cabal, fix ur game

Berserk_Fury
01-08-2011, 08:28 PM
comcast here as well, but i spent 50 min on the phone with em runnin tests on multiple computers, its not there internet...there seems to be a issue with cabal's software because the rep i talked to from comcast plays cabal too, and actually downloaded the game while i was on the phone, and had the same issues at work.....Cabal, fix ur game

If it's only happening to comcast users, it can't be the game.

davis209
01-08-2011, 09:22 PM
yeah aperantly its comcast internet http://www.speedtest.net/result/1103473193.png (http://www.speedtest.net) mine isnt usually this low QQ

Ched
01-08-2011, 09:34 PM
comcast here as well, but i spent 50 min on the phone with em runnin tests on multiple computers, its not there internet...there seems to be a issue with cabal's software because the rep i talked to from comcast plays cabal too, and actually downloaded the game while i was on the phone, and had the same issues at work.....Cabal, fix ur game

i bet that comcast rep is watching this thread also lolol..

cerverus3
01-08-2011, 09:48 PM
lol ^

Izumiia
01-08-2011, 10:13 PM
To be more specific, I'm in Cali.
Retardedly slow net...
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1103400460.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
FU 60PING
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1103410893.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

where in cali so i stalk chu sis?

condi05
01-08-2011, 10:53 PM
this is crazy.. can't play at all. :/
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1103527196.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Rastan
01-08-2011, 11:05 PM
where in cali so i stalk chu sis?

100 miles from modesto......palmdale?

Ched
01-09-2011, 12:24 AM
website and the game starting to work fine with me...
less lag now.. hoping that it will get more better later on

Sryinex
01-09-2011, 12:28 AM
Yep, seems to be fixed for me as well.

cerverus3
01-09-2011, 12:37 AM
same

Vontar
01-09-2011, 12:48 AM
Yeah, it's been happeing for a while to me too z.z

yummy
01-09-2011, 01:08 AM
yeh, i was at home earlier playing cabal. and the lag was horrible. only i in the house had the lag issue while in the game. brother didnt have any lag issue playing WoW. and we have comcast. now at my gf's place, there's no lag issue here and she have at&t.

GoAway
01-09-2011, 08:12 AM
cabal working fine now, i had comcast too

juji550
01-09-2011, 08:19 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1104059814.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
woah o.o

Kuja
01-09-2011, 09:12 AM
lag was gone when i woke up but it looks like its starting again :[ friend said hes getting a little lag again too, its still not bad enough that i cant play like yesterday but it might be getting there

Ched
01-09-2011, 09:23 AM
yea.. its starting again

shinyan
01-09-2011, 10:00 AM
yep it starting again... ~_~

Deathlymonkey
01-09-2011, 10:06 AM
Its USA only lag (=
Theres absolutely no lag here and im not even using a gaming comp or w/e.

Kuja
01-09-2011, 10:13 AM
mmm love comcast making cabal unplayable its so laggy.

Triplethreat
01-09-2011, 10:21 AM
mmm love comcast making cabal unplayable its so laggy.

Weird thing is everything else works perfectly normal while on Comcast. I can't even load cabal site to send a HD ticket, but every other website loads instantly.

I forsee Comcast blaming EST and EST blaming Comcast.

GoAway
01-09-2011, 10:47 AM
okay lag is back, was fine around 10am central time

Izumiia
01-09-2011, 10:52 AM
Ask kouin :>.

no i hate kouin i dun talk to her

WingsOfAngel
01-09-2011, 11:00 AM
This sux! :(

Rastan
01-09-2011, 11:08 AM
it's not your ISP it's their's...EST obviously doesn't pay for enough bandwidth to accomodate all the players,look at merc right now,every channel is almost 1 player away from being maxed out

HazyDance
01-09-2011, 11:55 AM
This has been going on since yesterday...They haven't done anything about it. I'm pretty god darn sure its not my computer since I only have problem with Cabal's website and the game itself.

Ched
01-09-2011, 12:05 PM
lol all we need to do is wait til m/a like always..

Triplethreat
01-09-2011, 12:24 PM
it's not your ISP it's their's...EST obviously doesn't pay for enough bandwidth to accomodate all the players,look at merc right now,every channel is almost 1 player away from being maxed out


You sure? Cuz it seems only people who have Comcast are having this issue.

GoAway
01-09-2011, 12:55 PM
EST fixes nothing over the weekend, just wait til monday

Sryinex
01-09-2011, 01:35 PM
Woke up today, lag not nearly as bad as it was yesterday but still evident(after being seemingly fixed early this morning). Seems like more of a routing issue to me than something that can be fixed by Cabal.

EDIT: Gets worse every minute...hmm this is very disconcerting.

sn0wXz
01-09-2011, 01:44 PM
no lag here, timewarner cable; the server is in south korea...so it might be just a issue with a certain provider, im not 100% sure but id assume they get all the bandwidth through trans-pacific express submarine cable, i doubt its much of an issue with the server itsself, i downloaded the game today at around 1.3mb a sec topping out, 800-900kb/sec low, plus everyone would be experiencing it, not just some(the lag ingame).

Sryinex
01-09-2011, 01:48 PM
I've only seen the issue with Comcast customers, it's something to do with their routing to our servers(which are located in San Jose, CA not overseas do a tracert you'll see)

Ched
01-09-2011, 01:49 PM
but it lag both ingame and cabal website.
other websites are loading fast for me..

sn0wXz
01-09-2011, 01:50 PM
I've only seen the issue with Comcast customers, it's something to do with their routing to our servers(which are located in San Jose, CA not overseas do a tracert you'll see)

the cabal server is in south korea is what i was saying, lol; l2read. it probably is a comcast issue

sn0wXz
01-09-2011, 01:51 PM
but it lag both ingame and cabal website.
other websites are loading fast for me..

whos ur internet service provider?

Sryinex
01-09-2011, 01:54 PM
the cabal server is in south korea is what i was saying, lol; l2read. it probably is a comcast issue

Actually, before trying to act like a smartass, you should probably "l2read". Both the game server AND the web hosting server are located in San Jose, CA. That's why people located in CA have low pings and are able to retarget well. You think that would be possible with a 250 ping to South Korea?

Ched
01-09-2011, 01:54 PM
whos ur internet service provider?

comcast :|

sn0wXz
01-09-2011, 01:56 PM
Actually, before trying to act like a smartass, you should probably "l2read". Both the game server AND the web hosting server are located in San Jose, CA. That's why people located in CA have low pings and are able to retarget well. You think that would be possible with a 250 ping to South Korea?

Ima let you finish but....

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5131/portspng.png

go tracert that shi.t proski. Your result = my sig. fail more today?

sn0wXz
01-09-2011, 01:56 PM
comcast :|

ah that sux, hopefully there will be more information, you think comcast would notify of some kind of issue to its subscribers...

Rastan
01-09-2011, 01:59 PM
you think comcast would notify of some kind of issue to its subscribers...

pfft,hell no,they're more concerned with their ppv profits.....seriously,who pays for movies these days?

Berserk_Fury
01-09-2011, 02:34 PM
it's not your ISP it's their's...EST obviously doesn't pay for enough bandwidth to accomodate all the players,look at merc right now,every channel is almost 1 player away from being maxed out

Lets go over this again. Only comcast users are having problems, so how can it be a cabal issue?

Rastan
01-09-2011, 02:38 PM
Lets go over this again. Only comcast users are having problems, so how can it be a cabal issue?

cuz i have comcast and could still surf everything else while cabal.com and the game was just giving me issues

Sryinex
01-09-2011, 02:41 PM
Regardless, whether or not you want to agree snow, to get to this south korean IP, there needs to be a hop at the same ip as the web host. Whether you want to believe that hop is irrelevant or whatever, none of us know for sure. Sure you give a south korean ip, establishing a link between the cabal program and it's south korean main location, but you don't know if that is just a data-link for specific content-related information to relieve stress or if it's the actual box that the server files are sitting on is up to the person to have an opinion without any hard evidence that's all it is. To me, it would make more sense that a company would do the former rather than the latter because why would a company host a game at a location that is across the world from the majority of its' subscribers. Every other game company that expands from their homeland that I've ever dealt with has always had offices and servers in the location of the target audience. But I'm done, I'm not here to get into some pointless argument when all it boils down to is opinion. The facts are as follows:

The issue lies with only Comcast subscribers.
It's not a consistent issue, but rather has periods of better or worsening issues.

Without knowing exactly what the issue is, it's not something we can point fingers and say " so and so has to fix it". Maybe it's a problem with Comcasts routing choices, and if that were true, they wouldn't care enough to change for a single small-population game following. Maybe it's an issue with congestion, who knows. All we know for certain is that Comcast is the common denominator and that the IP: 208.80.251.154 which both the game and the web host connect to, there seems to be an issue at.

Triplethreat
01-09-2011, 02:51 PM
Lets go over this again. Only comcast users are having problems, so how can it be a cabal issue?


Let's go over this again. The only issues I am having is with the game and Cabal's website. Everything else on the net, as well as other games are working fine.

sn0wXz
01-09-2011, 03:05 PM
the IP: 208.80.251.154 which both the game and the web host connect to, there seems to be an issue at.


http://blogsbusiness.net/us/www.cabal.com

"The server is faster than 38% of measured websites, at 1928 milliseconds. It is hosted in Krnic Seoul, Korea and is using Microsoft-IIS/6.0 webserver. It has 1,625 websites linking to it. The Site was launched at 07-09-1999 and is 11 years and 4 months 0 days old. Most users are from United States, Brazil, Canada, Germany. The site is encoded with utf-8 character-set, "

Vontar
01-09-2011, 03:08 PM
I'm lagging, and yeah I have comcast. Sad thing is, I can't even skill . . .

XFearMyBladeX
01-09-2011, 03:15 PM
o.0 servers lagging?.... what r u doing snow? =p

forumpost
01-09-2011, 03:40 PM
Odd, I have no lag besides I D/C in BI market place and only there for some odd reason.

xEtherx
01-09-2011, 03:46 PM
sinse the last M/A the game has been lagging. As channels fill up it gets even worse. Most of my guild isn't even playing. From having a large player base of mid lvl players it seems to be more prevalent along the easter time zone. People may say its a line issue but i play on 25m up/3m down line. You could say its my PC but lol yeah building or upgrading every 6 months lets not go there. this is EST's problem and they need to fix it. if not well then hopefully North and south Korea go to war and take out est in the process.

Rastan
01-09-2011, 03:49 PM
sinse the last M/A the game has been lagging. As channels fill up it gets even worse. Most of my guild isn't even playing. From having a large player base of mid lvl players it seems to be more prevalent along the easter time zone. People may say its a line issue but i play on 25m up/3m down line. You could say its my PC but lol yeah building or upgrading every 6 months lets not go there. this is EST's problem and they need to fix it. if not well then hopefully North and south Korea go to war and take out est in the process.

it's probably neither,it's might just some douche-bags shutting down channels again for boss respawns

Sabuvok
01-09-2011, 05:33 PM
o.O when use speedtest.net, the ping it gives me is 178ms, but using pingtest.net (a link off that site) it gives me 38ms
lol which is right?

XFearMyBladeX
01-09-2011, 05:46 PM
idk what lag r u guys talking about... game for me is running fine o.o

xEtherx
01-09-2011, 05:58 PM
it's probably neither,it's might just some douche-bags shutting down channels again for boss respawns

I just came back to cabal 2-3 weeks ago so please elaborate. Are you saying people are hacking or flooding channels with multi-client to assure they get the bosses when they spawn. During the early morning hours It seems fine but once prime time hits the eastern seaboard and some central timezones begin to have issues to the point its unplayable. This leads me to believe its either a distribution node problem or a bandwidth issue on the main server itself. Most night the channels are virtualy filled to capacity which would make my second guess the most probable answer.

Reguardless if the GM's were present and doing their jobs this issue would have already been acknowledged and an emergency maintance would be performed.

GoAway
01-09-2011, 07:06 PM
2 days of premium wasted, pretty sure we will be compensated with a 1hr blessing bead

Berserk_Fury
01-09-2011, 07:36 PM
You won't be compensated anything because it's your garbage ISP that's to blame. It doesn't matter if everything else is working fine for you, since the only common factor between you people is comcast, that is the cause of your problems. If cabal was to blame, then everyone, or at least most of the people would be affected.

Light
01-09-2011, 07:47 PM
Could someone from the affected players do the following?

RUN -> CMD
In the DOS window type..

tracert www.cabal.com - and post the result

Rastan
01-09-2011, 07:51 PM
I just came back to cabal 2-3 weeks ago so please elaborate. Are you saying people are hacking or flooding channels with multi-client to assure they get the bosses when they spawn. During the early morning hours It seems fine but once prime time hits the eastern seaboard and some central timezones begin to have issues to the point its unplayable. This leads me to believe its either a distribution node problem or a bandwidth issue on the main server itself. Most night the channels are virtualy filled to capacity which would make my second guess the most probable answer.

Reguardless if the GM's were present and doing their jobs this issue would have already been acknowledged and an emergency maintance would be performed.

exactly

WingsOfAngel
01-09-2011, 08:07 PM
Could someone from the affected players do the following?

RUN -> CMD
In the DOS window type..

tracert www.cabal.com - and post the result


tracert www.cabal.com

Tracing route to www.cabal.com [211.43.149.92]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 10 ms 12 ms 10 ms 73.88.60.1
3 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms ge-7-8-ur02.corvallis.or.bverton.comcast.net [68
.85.150.217]
4 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms te-8-2-ur01.corvallis.or.bverton.comcast.net [68
.85.243.149]
5 10 ms 13 ms 11 ms te-3-4-ar01.beaverton.or.bverton.comcast.net [68
.87.218.129]
6 30 ms 23 ms 23 ms te-1-0-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.net
[68.86.90.241]
7 27 ms 27 ms 35 ms pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.85.46]
8 28 ms 29 ms 26 ms te-1-3.car1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.71.118.37]
9 29 ms 28 ms 29 ms ae-3-89.edge1.SanJose3.Level3.net [4.68.18.144]

10 63 ms 68 ms 65 ms PANTHER-EXP.edge1.SanJose3.Level3.net [4.53.208.
10]
11 69 ms 67 ms 66 ms 174.35.18.62
12 * * 70 ms 174.35.13.230
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 208.80.251.154 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.

xEtherx
01-09-2011, 08:12 PM
I asked about 20 different people in game I know what ISP they have, all of which are experiencing lag. About 50% have comcast the rest have verison or some local company so its not just comcast. This has also only started sinse the last M/A so its not comcast. This issue also only happens when the server is filled to near max capacity so its not just comcast. True comcast isn't the best ISP but there are to many variables for it to be comcast. Can it be a conflict with comcast yes but that is on est's end not our. Remember back to when the game switched from OGP to EST, half a dozen different ISP companies had issues getting verification emails to transfer their accounts for which EST had to make currections. This proves it is not comcast but EST's conflict with comcast and other ISP's.

TheChoppy
01-09-2011, 08:16 PM
Trace complete.

C:\Windows\system32>Tracert www.cabal.com

Tracing route to www.cabal.com [211.43.149.90]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 22 ms 27 ms 20 ms c-68-45-173-1.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [68.45.173.1]

2 9 ms 47 ms 9 ms xe-8-1-0-0-sur01.union.nj.panjde.comcast.net [68
.85.129.57]
3 10 ms 16 ms 20 ms xe-0-3-0-0-sur01.audubon.nj.panjde.comcast.net [
68.85.63.1]
4 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms 68.86.95.173
5 27 ms 133 ms 67 ms tengigabitethernet1-4.ar5.NYC1.gblx.net [64.208.
222.57]
6 120 ms 119 ms 120 ms CDNETWORKS.e10-2.ar5.SJC2.gblx.net [64.208.222.7
0]
7 123 ms 125 ms 123 ms 174.35.18.126
8 123 ms 154 ms 127 ms 174.35.18.62
9 127 ms 143 ms 126 ms 174.35.13.226
10 125 ms 125 ms 126 ms 208.80.251.154
11 * 208.80.251.154 reports: Destination net unreachable.


i have comcast and im laggin like crazy >:/ 2 second delays or more lol

ZEPR0
01-09-2011, 08:23 PM
Darn it est fix this.,.

Vontar
01-09-2011, 09:03 PM
C:\Users\Luke>tracert www.cabal.com

Tracing route to www.cabal.com [211.43.149.90]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * 17 ms 19 ms 192.168.1.1
2 20 ms 31 ms 28 ms 73.94.136.1
3 20 ms 15 ms 19 ms ge-6-32-ur03.salem.or.bverton.comcast.net [68.85
.150.141]
4 23 ms 32 ms 41 ms te-9-2-ur01.corvallis.or.bverton.comcast.net [68
.87.216.53]
5 40 ms 28 ms 23 ms pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.95.89]
6 116 ms 214 ms 222 ms 208.178.58.89
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 118 ms * * 174.35.18.126
9 * 77 ms 72 ms 174.35.18.62
10 99 ms 80 ms 98 ms 174.35.13.230
11 83 ms 82 ms 73 ms 208.80.251.154
12 208.80.251.154 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Luke>
C:\Users\Luke>

Vontar
01-09-2011, 09:05 PM
does the 3rd line tell you where you live? Also, I live by comcast HQ-I should go talkt ot hem haha

Rastan
01-09-2011, 09:19 PM
tracert www.cabal.com

Tracing route to www.cabal.com [211.43.149.92]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 6 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 10 ms 12 ms 10 ms 73.88.60.1
3 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms ge-7-8-ur02.corvallis.or.bverton.comcast.net [68
.85.150.217]
4 10 ms 8 ms 9 ms te-8-2-ur01.corvallis.or.bverton.comcast.net [68
.85.243.149]
5 10 ms 13 ms 11 ms te-3-4-ar01.beaverton.or.bverton.comcast.net [68
.87.218.129]
6 30 ms 23 ms 23 ms te-1-0-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.net
[68.86.90.241]
7 27 ms 27 ms 35 ms pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.85.46]
8 28 ms 29 ms 26 ms te-1-3.car1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.71.118.37]
9 29 ms 28 ms 29 ms ae-3-89.edge1.SanJose3.Level3.net [4.68.18.144]

10 63 ms 68 ms 65 ms PANTHER-EXP.edge1.SanJose3.Level3.net [4.53.208.
10]
11 69 ms 67 ms 66 ms 174.35.18.62
12 * * 70 ms 174.35.13.230
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 208.80.251.154 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.

you live in corvallis?...AHAHAHAHAHAH,GO DUCKS!!!

Berserk_Fury
01-10-2011, 05:41 AM
I asked about 20 different people in game I know what ISP they have, all of which are experiencing lag. About 50% have comcast the rest have verison or some local company so its not just comcast. This has also only started sinse the last M/A so its not comcast. This issue also only happens when the server is filled to near max capacity so its not just comcast. True comcast isn't the best ISP but there are to many variables for it to be comcast. Can it be a conflict with comcast yes but that is on est's end not our. Remember back to when the game switched from OGP to EST, half a dozen different ISP companies had issues getting verification emails to transfer their accounts for which EST had to make currections. This proves it is not comcast but EST's conflict with comcast and other ISP's.

I'm yet to see a single person on this forum that doesn't have comcast post that they have been lagging recently.

PSBeardy
01-10-2011, 05:50 AM
me was DC 4 times in IC2 run last night cause of this. <-No Comcast

Mat
01-10-2011, 05:52 AM
I'm yet to see a single person on this forum that doesn't have comcast post that they have been lagging recently.

Dromar has Verizon and he's been lagging like crazy lately.

Spur
01-10-2011, 06:05 AM
C:\Users\Luke>tracert www.cabal.com

Tracing route to www.cabal.com [211.43.149.90]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * 17 ms 19 ms 192.168.1.1
2 20 ms 31 ms 28 ms 73.94.136.1
3 20 ms 15 ms 19 ms ge-6-32-ur03.salem.or.bverton.comcast.net [68.85
.150.141]
4 23 ms 32 ms 41 ms te-9-2-ur01.corvallis.or.bverton.comcast.net [68
.87.216.53]
5 40 ms 28 ms 23 ms pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.seattle.wa.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.95.89]
6 116 ms 214 ms 222 ms 208.178.58.89
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 118 ms * * 174.35.18.126
9 * 77 ms 72 ms 174.35.18.62
10 99 ms 80 ms 98 ms 174.35.13.230
11 83 ms 82 ms 73 ms 208.80.251.154
12 208.80.251.154 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Luke>
C:\Users\Luke>

lol reset ure router or get a new one. ure reply from 192.168.1.1 which is ure router itself shouldnt be over 1ms

Vontar
01-10-2011, 06:12 AM
C:\Users\Luke>tracert cabal.com

Tracing route to cabal.com [211.43.149.92]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 9 ms 12 ms 8 ms 73.94.136.1
3 9 ms 19 ms 11 ms ge-7-7-ur02.salem.or.bverton.comcast.net [68.85.
150.129]
4 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms te-7-2-ar01.beaverton.or.bverton.comcast.net [68
.85.243.137]
5 22 ms 23 ms 24 ms pos-1-1-0-0-cr01.sacramento.ca.ibone.comcast.net
[68.86.95.109]
6 29 ms 44 ms 25 ms pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.sanjose.ca.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.85.46]
7 25 ms 25 ms 26 ms xe-10-2-0.edge1.SanJose1.Level3.net [4.71.118.1]

8 25 ms 26 ms 27 ms ae-3-89.edge1.SanJose3.Level3.net [4.68.18.144]

9 39 ms 47 ms 35 ms PANTHER-EXP.edge1.SanJose3.Level3.net [4.53.208.
10]
10 45 ms 39 ms 50 ms 174.35.18.62
11 36 ms 36 ms 40 ms 174.35.13.230
12 34 ms 35 ms 34 ms 208.80.251.154
13 208.80.251.154 reports: Destination net unreachable.

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Luke>

Berserk_Fury
01-10-2011, 06:42 AM
Guess I stand corrected.

Kuja
01-10-2011, 04:02 PM
starting to lag again :[

otice1
01-10-2011, 04:15 PM
Dromar has Verizon and he's been lagging like crazy lately.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1106006910.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Yea, you're right! :(

shinyan
01-10-2011, 05:07 PM
the lag is starting again

sn0wXz
01-10-2011, 05:14 PM
what lag?


edit: maybe its a lag only specific people terrorist type attack, just sayin.

Berserk_Fury
01-10-2011, 06:45 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1106006910.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Yea, you're right! :(

I think this means your internet is bad (just like everyone with comcast).

Vontar
01-10-2011, 06:51 PM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1106138808.png (http://www.speedtest.net) O:

XFearMyBladeX
01-10-2011, 07:35 PM
I think this means your internet is bad (just like everyone with comcast).

lol at least know what u talking about before u say it... i have comcast and i am not having lag at all.idk what lag r u guys talking about lol u ppl talking about lag but i see ppl doing war/dungeons/pking/pvping....

Hatsuho
01-10-2011, 07:50 PM
while playing a speedcore radio 192kb

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1106182763.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

Malki
01-10-2011, 09:27 PM
Yep, Lag is back in spades. All the web is blazing fast except cabal.com or the game itself.

Trace www.Cabal.com
211.43.149.92 is from Korea, Republic of(KR) in region Southern and Eastern Asia


TraceRoute to 211.43.149.92 [www.cabal.com]
Hop (ms) (ms) (ms) IP Address Host name
1 18 14 8 72.249.0.65 -
2 17 7 7 206.123.64.21 -
3 20 17 27 8.9.232.73 xe-5-3-0.edge3.dallas1.level3.net
4 18 19 15 4.69.145.52 ae-63-60.ebr3.dallas1.level3.net
5 43 42 49 4.69.132.77 ae-3-3.ebr2.losangeles1.level3.net
6 64 65 66 4.69.132.13 ae-2-2.ebr2.sanjose1.level3.net
7 59 53 53 4.69.134.222 ae-92-92.csw4.sanjose1.level3.net
8 58 90 53 4.68.18.208 ae-4-99.edge1.sanjose3.level3.net
9 64 55 58 4.53.208.10 panther-exp.edge1.sanjose3.level3.net
10 59 76 61 174.35.18.62 -
11 60 73 62 174.35.13.226 -
12 116 179 94 208.80.251.154 -
13 Destination network unreachable Timed out Timed out -
14 Destination network unreachable Timed out Destination network unreachable -
15 Timed out Destination network unreachable Timed out -
16 Destination network unreachable Timed out Destination network unreachable -

Trace aborted.

TheChoppy
01-10-2011, 09:35 PM
Comcast Rep !

Agnes(Tue Jan 11 2011 01:32:08 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

My apologies that you are having issue with the game itself.


Agnes(Tue Jan 11 2011 01:32:18 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

Rest assured your modem has great connection


Agnes(Tue Jan 11 2011 01:32:29 GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time))>

Health Check Passed : The Health Check has completed successfully and no issues were identified.

xEtherx
01-10-2011, 10:04 PM
I think this means your internet is bad (just like everyone with comcast).
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1106266144.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
http://www.pingtest.net/result/31966557.png (http://www.pingtest.net)

With cabal and vent running.

I also tested my line and did a jump trace and sent the info to the GM's. They know about the problem and they know its on their end and only been happening sinse the last M/A.

Granted comcast isn't the best ISP but it is the largest ISP in the united states. Chances are if you dont have Comcast the company that provides your internet are either owned by comcast or use comcast lines. there are few exceptions to this rule. Just like if your on the east coast nomatter who you buy electricity from they are owned by Constalation Energy.

Shinji
01-11-2011, 04:33 AM
Well around new years I lagged like mad, But lately 0 lags and I got comcast.

sn0wXz
01-11-2011, 06:24 AM
kakaka lag moar lag!! kekeke

all these tracerts pasted in cabal online forum like we totally backtracing them lags broski. Dont worry .67mb connection and still rapin kids on the net. Pro.
It just makes you that much better @ cabal.

xEtherx
01-11-2011, 02:17 PM
I know people who are having lag that use roadrunner and verison as well as comcast and they are all having the same issues. it seems to be more a reigion effected during prime time rather then a single ISP. Which again points to EST having a bandwidth issue.

Triplethreat
01-11-2011, 03:08 PM
I know people who are having lag that use roadrunner and verison as well as comcast and they are all having the same issues. it seems to be more a reigion effected during prime time rather then a single ISP. Which again points to EST having a bandwidth issue.


Yea. This isnt a Comcast issue. This is an EST issue. I sent in a HD ticket and they surprisingly responded the next day. They said they would take a look into it. Maybe M/A tomorrow will adress the issue.

xEtherx
01-11-2011, 05:03 PM
I know its not. I luv how so many people think they know it all and blame comcast but lets look at the logic in trouble shooting.

Modem:
5.26 mvDB = Voltage and frequency fine

Line Speeds: average 20.1md DL/ 3.1mb UL = Fine

Ping to ISP host - average 17ms +/- 2ms = fine

Games Tested:

Guild Wars = Fine
Requiem = Fine
Global Agenda = fine
WoW = fine
Sun Online = Fine
Cabal online = Fine during off peak hours of operation. Issues during Peak Hours of operations

Trace info starts shows the issue going into california when it hits their main distribution node before jumping across the pacific.

Whats the common variable here EST. It is a bandwidth issue and maybe a slight conflict with comcast data streaming but hardly comcasts issue.

anyone who says otherwise is either trolling or a google IT professional wannabe thinking they know it all cause they spent a wopping 45 minute on the internet learning how to build a PC and check line quality.

Anyone wanting to see my certifications please feel free to message me and I'll fax you my resume. This economy is tough and I am currently looking for a job, however if it out of the Baltimore/DC metro area I do expect if offered a position a relocation package with benefits. k thanks. bye.

Berserk_Fury
01-11-2011, 06:32 PM
If it's an EST issue, why are there so many people that aren't experiencing it?

iGotTheMagic
01-11-2011, 06:40 PM
Omg I've dced at least 40 times in the past 2 hours. This is getting annoying.. rage..

xEtherx
01-11-2011, 07:30 PM
If it's an EST issue, why are there so many people that aren't experiencing it?

I would explain it but i doubt you have the education to understand.

Berserk_Fury
01-11-2011, 07:41 PM
I would explain it but i doubt you have the education to understand.

Try me.

sn0wXz
01-11-2011, 08:51 PM
it may be with one of the hops, and only affects specific regions somehow

i really havnt found any problems myself, maybe someone whos having the issue at the time could do a speed test to south korean server, just to be that much more sure its EST/cabal related compared to connection/service provider related, i mean if your dling at .67mb to a server less then 50 miles away (shout out to dromar) its probably obvious where the issue lies.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1107701889.png

250 to south korean server threw speedtest....im not lagging ingame at all though, it would be significant for a player whos experiencing lag ingame to take speed test to a south korean server and see if its about average for what you would expect being 6,000 miles away n all..


I would explain it but i doubt you have the education to understand.

What is it with you and education? I think you pay too much attention to trolls lol, they getting to you. Im sure atleast 3/10 people would grasp the concept without even having certifications from a community college or whatnot... just sayin with all due respect, Lol.

xEtherx
01-11-2011, 10:38 PM
Trolls dont get to me but they do put out false information.
trying to make someone grasp the concept of the difference between Milivolt/decibel communication ( Cable ), Optical communication ( Fios )and Miliamp communication ( DSL ) would take a basic understanding of both electricity and electronic data communication. you cant stream a MVDB signal to verison fios or DSL and expect it to be read without first converting it to a common coding. That is also only if that is the problem. A Bandwidth issue is like rush hour traffic, to many cars and not enough lanes on the highway to allow them to go from point A to point B without bottlenecking like they could when only half as many cars were on the road. Data trace times out because of set perameters basically saying if it take more then X amount of time to go from point A to point B then abort the process. Coding can cause this but given the consistancy of the time line, effected regions and people using multiple ISP's having the same issue all across the US points to 2 possible causes,.. Bandwidth or coding. If it were comcast the problem would be the same across the entire internet.

Snow I know your young and fairly smart for your age but if you think education means nothing then I fear for your future.

SilverIceForum
01-12-2011, 01:43 AM
Sounds similar to old IRC Netsplits as the best example I can come up with. Ether I would have to agree it is a bottleneck somewhere between the ISP and the Cabal Server, probably a backbone that does a lot of streaming media connections almost anything. The fact it is hitting between 3pm to Midnight Pacific time points me to this may be a major issue that has been present for a long long time since the EST servers went live, and indeed a new code in the server software might be lagging a backend daemon process like an SQL Daemon which would affect both ingame database inquiries as well as webside being most the website is PHP based.

So a double lag, one pipeline the other software response server side would definitely cause any number of d/cs, crashes, major lag spikes due to tcp/ip time out and inquiry time outs if they are set to high etc.

In short the GMs still need to get on the ball, figure out if it is server side, get in touch with their ISP as well as any player ISPs being affect and figure out where the bottleneck etc is at.

Forgotten
01-12-2011, 02:27 PM
Seems fine to me.. i don't think i ever lag.. then again i don't have a crappy net connection.. most likely the issue o.o and my net averages 75mb/s DL and 20-35mb/s UL so yea.. most likely your net =/

Sryinex
01-12-2011, 02:34 PM
Seems fine to me.. i don't think i ever lag.. then again i don't have a crappy net connection.. most likely the issue o.o and my net averages 75mb/s DL and 20-35mb/s UL so yea.. most likely your net =/

Read the thread before posting nonsense.

Forgotten
01-12-2011, 03:02 PM
Nice rage there, i did read it and again seems like their crappy net.. don't pay for something that doesn't work.. and same goes for you ^_^

xEtherx
01-12-2011, 03:21 PM
troll more forgotten. 2 IT professionals posted what is the logical and obvious issue. The customer ISP cant be to blame because its multiple ISP's across to large an area to be our providers. Trace confirms the loss in northern california indicating the issue is between the host, their ISP and coding.

It is sad though when EST has 2 customers who are clearly more qualified and capable of fixing the issue then their own IT staff. I would be more then happy to fix the issue but I would have to be hired and I wouldn't take the position without a relocation package, benefits and oh yeah i dont work for 3rd world country wages so they couldn't afford me.

Ched
01-12-2011, 04:40 PM
the lag is gone now lol.. everything is working fine for me now, both the website and the game..

xEtherx
01-12-2011, 04:55 PM
the lag is gone now lol.. everything is working fine for me now, both the website and the game..

For now but wait. it will come back. unless EST finally got the point and woke their IT department up.

Penguin
01-12-2011, 07:13 PM
cabal servers seem to be delaying quite a bit, especially when comboing
anyone having this problem?

Servers arent lagging, in revenge, you are.
And i know i am right cauz im not lagging. And if server was lagging, i<d lagg too. its fking logics.

MagitekGirl
01-12-2011, 07:17 PM
I lag so much in combo that everyone dc's...

Daisy calls it a M/A =P

[GM] DaisY
01-12-2011, 09:59 PM
fix'd and closed :)

XFearMyBladeX
01-12-2011, 10:00 PM
yay!!!!!!!!!!!!

xEtherx
01-12-2011, 10:01 PM
just goes to show how fail EST is. she forgot to close it.

Now how about compensation cause you wasted my last week of premium...

Kuja
01-12-2011, 10:22 PM
DaisY;169132']fix'd and closed :)

thanks

Ched
01-12-2011, 10:56 PM
DaisY;169132']fix'd and closed :)

lol