Decent FB...

[MR.]

I'd like to know by the fellow FB..decent ones...(no bad comments please,or they will be ignored) As you have seen, i posted some stuff on FB before...because i was new...now i'm at 70% of knowing a lot about them... so please tell me if i should upgrade my gears....

LV:169
HP:4755

Atk:1043
Def:964
Amp:48
CD:216
Crit Rate:50/50
Def rate:2998
Atk Rate:3897
Resist crit rate:3%
Resist crit dmg:6
(Gears)
Forcium blade+9/ 20CD
Topaz crystal+11/40CD
Shadow tit battle helm+12=7/40
Osm battle suit(FB) PC+11=7 amp.
TG battle boots+9=2 slot 7% amp.
TG battle gloves+9=7% amp+2% HP steal.
K-red.AOP+5
CR+2x4
belt of damp+4
EOF+6

Tell me if i need to upgrade my gears..or are they decent enough...not to keep going for forcy amp.

[ironman]

How do you have 964 def with tbose gears?

[MR.]

def rune/pet/TG boots give 116def/earringx1.

[Berserk_Fury]

I also don't see how you can have that much def. I mean sure I don't have a def rune, or a pet with def, but I'm using a +10 sig suit and +9 TG helm.

Also, I've been running on 55 rate for a while and I can't help but feel that 50 rate is too low for fb.

[MR.]

I also don't see how you can have that much def. I mean sure I don't have a def rune, or a pet with def, but I'm using a +10 sig suit and +9 TG helm.

Also, I've been running on 55 rate for a while and I can't help but feel that 50 rate is too low for fb.

well i don't really know about rate...but i tested 50 rate vs 58rate.. both on honor rank 15...it's kinda the same...a few crits from 50 reduced to 47 rate... 58 reduced to 55 rate..kinda crits the same as 50rate... but as it is...i don't pvp high honor rank people much...( don't see any lately) And we all have different stats..not all the same.(talked to tomaboy" he said.yes 50rate is enough for FB...and as for me i also think so,my opinion, don't forget 7/40 shadow tit helm FB+12

[buymeplz]

he probly has drosin earings with alot of def. and you should atleast get an eof7

[Berserk_Fury]

he probly has drosin earings with alot of def. and you should atleast get an eof7

Then he wouldn't have such high hp.

[Halcy]

these stats don't even add up

[buymeplz]

need screen shot of this guys stats and gear lol

[xDromarx]

The difference between 55 and 50, and 58 and 55 rate is certainly noticeable. Even the difference between 58 and 60 rate is noticeable, although not nearly as evident as the others.
Also for someone says "X" rate is good enough for whatever class, what they are saying means absolutely nothing. Go use something like lasthour's dps calculator and go look for the difference between your current 50 rate build and your other max rate build. Most people will chose the build with more dps, which is almost always a rate build with the proper gear, but also take into consideration other factors such as play style.
Just sayin'

[Sausag3]

Rate is about your dps in pve as much, if not more than, as it is in pvp. Thats what I would change, and an eof+7 at least. What drosnin do you wear to get that much defense? I'm in +10 mystic and sig on my blader, and you only have 3 less defense than me.

[TurcoX]

this is indeed a very decent FB

[MR.]

The difference between 55 and 50, and 58 and 55 rate is certainly noticeable. Even the difference between 58 and 60 rate is noticeable, although not nearly as evident as the others.
Also for someone says "X" rate is good enough for whatever class, what they are saying means absolutely nothing. Go use something like lasthour's dps calculator and go look for the difference between your current 50 rate build and your other max rate build. Most people will chose the build with more dps, which is almost always a rate build with the proper gear, but also take into consideration other factors such as play style.
Just sayin'

Alright....but remember...difference is on which class... and as i said before,i can't find much people honor rank 15+ to pvp ...so i just go with the normal ones. and CABAL won't last forever so i just go with 50rate....i was simply looking for decent fellow FB to tell me if my gears we're decent that's all...And as i said before..we all have different stats... and if my gears need improvement...EOF+7 thanks...guys thx turcox do my gears need other improvements?

[TurcoX]

get that EOF+7 asap.. and oh well.. since u got those Teragrace binding stuff, forcium should be the last on your list to buy =/

i would focus on Runes.. and getting an AOP+6 even tho u are not using your max rate, that +5% damage difference is clearly something.. upgrade that katana to +11 and you will be kinda eppic for your level haha :P.. keep the honor!

dont listen to those that say 50 rate is not enough... believe me, it is...

[Berserk_Fury]

dont listen to those that say 50 rate is not enough... believe me, it is...

I guess you know better than most people and the damage calculators?

[xDromarx]

dont listen to those that say 50 rate is not enough... believe me, it is...

I seriously hope you are trolling.

[MR.]

I guess you know better than most people and the damage calculators?

To be honest..sorry to say,but i rather take TurcoX advice than fps...after the video i've seen sorry...and i saw turcox pvp miavii..and it was wow..he even had 50rate...

[Notic]

50rate is enough....FB is dmg wise..not rate.

[ITooTMyShid]

To be honest..sorry to say,but i rather take TurcoX advice than fps...after the video i've seen sorry...and i saw turcox pvp miavii..and it was wow..he even had 50rate...



Lol

[xDromarx]

To be honest..sorry to say,but i rather take TurcoX advice than fps...after the video i've seen sorry...and i saw turcox pvp miavii..and it was wow..he even had 50rate...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE3Hery8MXY

24 crits in a row. 50 rate I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥s.
Just sayin'

[Berserk_Fury]

50rate is enough....FB is dmg wise..not rate.

How'd you come to that conclusion?

[Notic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TE3Hery8MXY

24 crits in a row. 50 rate I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥s.
Just sayin'

LOL easy to get that much crits....assuming( ur stats 1133base+bm2 about 1.5 base...then MB=1.8base. T_T easy to get that much crit with that much base...and we talking about FB not FS

[Notic]

How'd you come to that conclusion?

Tested. 60 rate VS 50 with honor rank 15...60 rate only crit 3 times on me....it's all about luck.

[xDromarx]

LOL easy to get that much crits....assuming( ur stats 1133base+bm2 about 1.5 base...then MB=1.8base. T_T easy to get that much crit with that much base...and we talking about FB not FS

I'm talking about rate and why would I care if you are talking about FB instead of FS when FB get more rate from buffs? That video was meant to show how significant 60 rate is, it had nothing to do with my damage.


Tested. 60 rate VS 50 with honor rank 15...60 rate only crit 3 times on me....it's all about luck.

And when you have 60 rate instead of 50 you have a 10% extra chance of being "lucky".

[TurcoX]

xDromar pls you are retired so go away!

and yea FPSNoob, 50 rate is enough.. i make choices based in experience, not only numbers.. even tho i love numbers

[xDromarx]

xDromar pls you are retired so I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥ xd

and yea FPSNoob, 50 rate is enough.. i make choices based in experience, not only numbers.. even tho i love numbers

Oh boy I quit so therefore my extensive knowledge of game mechanics now means nothing. Get over yourself, the reason why 99% of people who play this are junk is because they don't know how anything works and don't take the time to learn. If you actually made choices by experience you would aim for a good max rate build.

[TurcoX]

i would love to have that 7% extra i didnt get in my weapons but oh well.. u gotta play with what u've got

i get 60 rate using hard luck on a boss, so practically i have 60 rate also!. But that would be pvm..

[Chan]

max rate build is extremely expensive. you better spend money on FC gear instead of on 10 max rate. FB really need def and HP since ur the 1st target in Nwar. Your gears cannot give that much HP and def, i doubt it, i need +15 sig and 1 FC+9 to have ur def. get a eof8, that makes huge differnce.

[MR.]

max rate build is extremely expensive. you better spend money on FC gear instead of on 10 max rate. FB really need def and HP since ur the 1st target in Nwar. Your gears cannot give that much HP and def, i doubt it, i need +15 sig and 1 FC+9 to have ur def. get a eof8, that makes huge differnce.

Doesn't anyone listen??? WE ALL HAVE F******* different stats.

[MR.]

LV:169
HP:4755

Atk:1027
Def:964
Amp:50
CD:236
Crit Rate:50/50( will forever stay 50/50.)
Def rate:2998
Atk Rate:3897
Resist crit rate:3%
Resist crit dmg:6
(Gears)
Redosm blade+11/40CD.
Topaz crystal+11/40CD
Shadow tit battle helm+12=7/40
Osm battle suit(FB) PC+11=7 amp.
TG battle boots+9=2 slot 7% amp.
TG battle gloves+9=7% amp+2% HP steal.
K-red.AOP+5
CR+2x4
belt of damp+4
EOF+6

UPDATED/.

[Berserk_Fury]

xDromar pls you are retired so go away!

and yea FPSNoob, 50 rate is enough.. i make choices based in experience, not only numbers.. even tho i love numbers

And you've been playing FB for how long?

[Notic]

And you've been playing FB for how long?

He can beat you with 50/50rate end of story.(Miavii beat you end of story) he said i just woke up..yeah right) end of story.

[Berserk_Fury]

He can beat you with 50/50rate end of story.(Miavii beat you end of story) he said i just woke up..yeah right) end of story.

Because you know, pvp in this game... Yeah I don't think much needs to be said.

[TurcoX]

since way before this server even existed

@notic no need to recall the obvious but ty anyways

[Berserk_Fury]

since way before this server even existed

@notic no need to recall the obvious but ty anyways

So what was your name before?

[Notic]

So what was your name before?

His name was BetterThanYou.

[Shinji]

So how you get the extra 26dmg lols or is this a joke

[MR.]

So how you get the extra 26dmg lols or is this a joke

15/20/10/5/2/4/40/40/40/15x4=236....calculate shinji :)

[TurcoX]

Dont insist FPSNoob, we can arrange a pvp or a pk freestyle whenever you want.. so we can see if 50 rate is enough

[Berserk_Fury]

Dont insist FPSNoob, we can arrange a pvp or a pk freestyle whenever you want.. so we can see if 50 rate is enough

You can ask anyone who knows me, I don't pvp in this game, hell I don't even remember the last time I've been to war. And even if I did focus on pvp, how would this settle anything? You outgear and outlevel me, what do you expect to happen?

In the end when considering things like critical rate you can't judge it based on a couple of pvps. It could take several thousand attacks in order to actually see the full effect, otherwise in such a small sample you can have someone with 30 rate critting more often than someone with 60.

Finally, I never insisted on being better than anyone, I've just been playing this game for a very long time, FB the whole time. Seeing a person like you that I've never even heard of up until a couple of months ago talk about how long they've played just seems strange.

[TurcoX]

"it could take several thousands attacks", " you can have someone with 30 rate critting more often than someone with 60"

You are contradicting yourself now.. if you dont PVP or WAR, why do you play Cabal?

Im not saying im better than you. And yes, i know that feeling

[Sprite]

tbh i have no idea how you're getting that much def

[MR.]

tbh i have no idea how you're getting that much def

We all have different stats.

[Berserk_Fury]

"it could take several thousands attacks", " you can have someone with 30 rate critting more often than someone with 60"

You are contradicting yourself now.. if you dont PVP or WAR, why do you play Cabal?

Im not saying im better than you. And yes, i know that feeling

I did not contradict myself in the way that I said it, but when you cut out segments, it's easy to make it seem that way...

"Im" "saying im better than you"

See what I did there?

And I don't know why I play, mostly to kill time, talk to people, and I actually enjoy pve here I guess. If I wanted to pvp I'd be playing aion instead.


We all have different stats.

Those stats are way too extreme to be explainable though.

[MR.]

I did not contradict myself in the way that I said it, but when you cut out segments, it's easy to make it seem that way...

"Im" "saying im better than you"

See what I did there?

And I don't know why I play, mostly to kill time, talk to people, and I actually enjoy pve here I guess. If I wanted to pvp I'd be playing aion instead.



Those stats are way too extreme to be explainable though.

Maybe if you did what i did you could get what i have?

[TurcoX]

yes you did, you said there is a GOOD difference between 50 and 57 or 60 rate.. now u saying it takes a lot of clashes to see whats better and that a guy with 30 rate can crit more or like the guy with 60 rate???

anyways, you enjoy the pve? hahahaaha wow xd


and dude MR. you actually got a red blade 40% instead of a eof+7.. fack man

[MR.]

yes you did, you said there is a GOOD difference between 50 and 57 or 60 rate.. now u saying it takes a lot of clashes to see whats better and that a guy with 30 rate can crit more or like the guy with 60 rate???

anyways, you enjoy the pve? hahahaaha wow xd


and dude MR. you actually got a red blade 40% instead of a eof+7.. fack man

it's okie...i do dungeons a lot,I have 300M atm i'll save for an eof+7 or if i ic2/aosbf2 a lot i'll get eof8 drop...

[providen1990]

Your def is way too high for those gears
I think it is better to use forcium blade and xtal 20cd instead of redosi 40cd cuz of the damage cap and also when you bm1 it gives more stats.
In my opinion, if you gonna use 50cr then buy a aob+8 or +9 instead of aop5
The reason why FB feel 50cr is enough is because they have hard luck but still soon people will get more cr resist and your build atm will be nothing but a joke to them since they can go up to 35 or more cr resist (next update).

[Shinji]

and people still I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥ in this game

[Berserk_Fury]

yes you did, you said there is a GOOD difference between 50 and 57 or 60 rate.. now u saying it takes a lot of clashes to see whats better and that a guy with 30 rate can crit more or like the guy with 60 rate???

anyways, you enjoy the pve? hahahaaha wow xd


I guess you don't understand how statistics work. If you flipped a coin that has equal weight on both sides, you can get heads 20 times in a row, but if you keep flipping it over and over again, you will still get heads 50% of the time. Then if you do the same thing with a coin that has 60% of it's weight on one of the sides, you might only get 10 heads in a row, but then if you keep going the lighter side will be on top 60% of the time. That's basically how crit rate works in cabal, and there's nothing you can say to prove otherwise.

Also about enjoying pve, you should try playing a true pvp game like aion, and then see if you can come back to pvp in cabal.

[DrifterX]

wth 50rate? you kidding me zzzz

[Notic]

Two Builds:1 crit based the other crit+high base.

first one crit based:low base(about 980) and 220+CD) depend on 55+rate.. to crit more.

second build:1080+~1.1kbase) 50rate is enough for them due to high base and def.and 202+CD.

[Indecency]

I just wanna start by asking how the hell did you get all that def in osm the TG, i wear +10sig helm,glove,suit and +15 tg boot i dont have that much.
and secondly its logical more rate the better. i have 55%/55% im sure i crit more than most people i pvp depending on there H.Rank , rate Resist etc.
And if you wearing a red osm 40 dmg like you say it better be +15, cuz the attack on a +15 red osm is 180, sig or forci will do better, after all, a fb dps is better if you crit more.
so keeping your attack base high is important for the times you didn't crit, and the times you do. like i always say im no pro. keep up the work on that fb your stats is off the chats for the grade your wearing, bb =)

[Sws1212]

Having 964 defence with those gears are not possible with the gears you ae wearing right now even with the pets and runes. Unless you are wearing +7 or +8 guardian epulets.

As I'm only level 132, these are the list of my gears
*Osm +11 battlesuit (FB) with 7% amp and 50hp
*+6 fighter epulet
*Osm +10 battlehelm (FB) with 36% crit
*TG battlegloves (FB) +11 with 5% amp
*Forcium boots +10 (FB) with 100hp
*Forcium katana +12 with 10% crit
*Forcium orb +10 with 7% amp
*RoF +9 x2
*Merg ring
*RoL +1

As you can see, this character is my first and my main character and I hae put these gears to both be great at PvP and PvE. I also have a high defence (Over 920 with buff) and high atk.
So what Im trying to say is judge my gears and Im also trying to say that 964 defence of yours are not possible.
*Also, do not comment about my gears saying they are not good for wars or PvP, cause it is for me. I never lose PvP against any classes up to lvl 150. As my defence and accurate high attack will cover my lacking crit dmg and amp.