Official Drop List

[sn0wXz]

Can we get an official drop list, I see cabal KR had one released in episode 7. It would be nice to know if any of the legacy chests drops were changed n such, like ft1 where it went from redosm/tg/sg grade to osm, would be nice to know if legacy still drops forci amp armor*, 8 capes/highest extenders/cores..


edit: seems obvious after 4-5 runs since being back that uchh are removed from ft1 now? o.o mebe just not lucky but i guess its not a huge deal, just would like to know what has changed for drops..

[DanteX]

yes plox update the drop list

[alhifnawy3]

+1.....hate to go ft1 and all i get is uch and non slotted redosm.

[MasterChaosX]

http://www.cabalwiki.com/wiki/Category:Drop_Table

Its accurate

[sn0wXz]

yea i was looking at that, was where i seen the original drop list for cabal KR, it seems accurate now that im looking at it with a second glance, i realize uchh, sehh, +8 capes, and a few other things don't drop there now, gah; one thing i dont see is the drops of the legacy chest at end, Does this list mean forci amp like the armor you get from pf/pi no longer drop from last chest? ...gah kinda pointless to farm now its like lid of the higher lvls lol..

[Valdoroth]

yea i was looking at that, was where i seen the original drop list for cabal KR, it seems accurate now that im looking at it with a second glance, i realize uchh, sehh, +8 capes, and a few other things don't drop there now, gah; one thing i dont see is the drops of the legacy chest at end, Does this list mean forci amp like the armor you get from pf/pi no longer drop from last chest? ...gah kinda pointless to farm now its like lid of the higher lvls lol.. WE have the same drop list and rates as Korea. Just 1/10th the players to find things.

[Halcy]

WE have the same drop list and rates as Korea. Just 1/10th the players to find things.

you mean just 1/10 their drop rate

[sn0wXz]

Ehh, ive ran like 10-15 ft1s in last 1-2 days and no uchh, so I'm pretty sure fchh and uchh dont drop in ft1 anymore? if so then that drop list ripped from KR ep. 7 is inaccurate and doesnt reflect most recent changes to ft1s drop list.

I guess ill need quite a few more runs to see whats changed for real but, i mean after 260 ft1s on WA, 200ish on WI, i had pretty good idea of the normal drops....its seemed to be changed quite a bit then that list on cabal wiki. i would cross out uchh, fchh for sure... do astral cores even drop there anymore?? lol pretty diff now just getn alot of osm junk crafts n uch. not really for profit much i guess just fun but I hardly think the list is 100% accurate.

[jtammers]

+1 upgrade drrop ppllll

[Valdoroth]

you mean just 1/10 their drop rateIn terms of how many are dropped due to how many times that instance is run due to how many players are in NA, yes.

[Rowe]

+1 give us an updated drop list

[Nick123]

+1

[xDromarx]

NA drops are the same as Korean ones....always have been.... always will be...

[sn0wXz]

NA drops are the same as Korean ones....always have been.... always will be...

Not relevant as the latest korean - n/a translation of the drop list is not current. There is no source of the updated drop list from korea. Those ones (wiki and the other site) are using ep 7 drop list which for some reason doesn't reflect the changes in drops. You don't get redosm/tg/sg armor pieces in ft1 anymore, its all osm crafted epics, and a few redosm weaps. Since those were translated from kr drop list, I'm assuming those weren't updated for the sub-top epic crafts that now drop, and removal of certain grades/items.

When episode 8 comes out with bm3, they probably will update the drop list most likely, but I wanted one thats actually correct for ep7.

[Midgetchas14]

+1

Wiki is wrong atleast for EoD. Just got a PC osm Daikat in there a day ago.
It was a Junk Skill +8 one slot. But it was still PC.

[zarn]

Not relevant as the latest korean - n/a translation of the drop list is not current. There is no source of the updated drop list from korea. Those ones (wiki and the other site) are using ep 7 drop list which for some reason doesn't reflect the changes in drops. You don't get redosm/tg/sg armor pieces in ft1 anymore, its all osm crafted epics, and a few redosm weaps. Since those were translated from kr drop list, I'm assuming those weren't updated for the sub-top epic crafts that now drop, and removal of certain grades/items.

When episode 8 comes out with bm3, they probably will update the drop list most likely, but I wanted one thats actually correct for ep7.

FT1 still drops redosmium grade armor pieces as of a few weeks ago. Drop rates may have changed but the items have not been removed from the drop table.


+1

Wiki is wrong atleast for EoD. Just got a PC osm Daikat in there a day ago.
It was a Junk Skill +8 one slot. But it was still PC.

CabalWiki clearly indicates EOD drops pc osm grade weapons,
both here:
http://www.cabalwiki.com/wiki/Dungeon_Drops#Tower_of_the_Dead_.28B1F.29
and here:
http://www.cabalwiki.com/wiki/Tower_of_the_Dead_%28B1F%29_Drop_Table

The Episode 7 drop table is accurate.

If you do find errors in the wiki please correct them.

[sn0wXz]

FT1 doesn't seem to drop uchh, fchh, or armor mystic/sg/tg. If it does its at broken rate considering the 0-2 slot non crafted aren't epic. The osm crafted epics drop 90% of the time now, and red osm weaps drop quite often. I don't believe thats accurate, why would they make uchh, fchh, or normal non craft tg/sg/mystic drop rates extremely low? The dung is already kind of a waste of time now-a-days, lowering the drop rates on those items would not have made sense, unless they were removed completely. I do not believe the wiki reflects actual changes in the episode, They can quote korean drop lists from ep7 all day if they wish, but after 500ish ft1s I'm sure the drop rates of those items are extremely low to none which for worthless value they shouldn't be. I didn't see any astral/mat/or quarts either, which were all dropping atleast every 2-3 runs back before the most recent changes in ft1s drop tables.

More-so I would like official drop list for NA version, as the KR version likely has differences in the drop tables, not by just items but drop rate %ages in correlation with the active population.

[zarn]

FT1 doesn't seem to drop uchh, fchh, or armor mystic/sg/tg. If it does its at broken rate considering the 0-2 slot non crafted aren't epic. The osm crafted epics drop 90% of the time now, and red osm weaps drop quite often. I don't believe thats accurate, why would they make uchh, fchh, or normal non craft tg/sg/mystic drop rates extremely low? The dung is already kind of a waste of time now-a-days, lowering the drop rates on those items would not have made sense, unless they were removed completely. I do not believe the wiki reflects actual changes in the episode, They can quote korean drop lists from ep7 all day if they wish, but after 500ish ft1s I'm sure the drop rates of those items are extremely low to none which for worthless value they shouldn't be. I didn't see any astral/mat/or quarts either, which were all dropping atleast every 2-3 runs back before the most recent changes in ft1s drop tables.

More-so I would like official drop list for NA version, as the KR version likely has differences in the drop tables, not by just items but drop rate %ages in correlation with the active population.

Drop rate and drop table are different things. Just because an item has a low drop rate does not mean it's no longer on the drop table. If an item is on the drop table it means that its drop rate is non zero, there's no information about the value of the drop rate itself. Certainly the drop rates are different between the NA and KR versions of the game but from my experience and those of others I've talked to, the KR Episode 7 drop tables are accurate for Cabal NA. Drop rates are not released for any version of the game as far as I'm aware and in any case they are routinely changed. The wiki is only reflecting the most accurate and reliable information available. If you know of a better source for this information then you're more than welcome to update the wiki.

[sn0wXz]

Drop rate and drop table are different things. Just because an item has a low drop rate does not mean it's no longer on the drop table. If an item is on the drop table it means that its drop rate is non zero, there's no information about the value of the drop rate itself. Certainly the drop rates are different between the NA and KR versions of the game but from my experience and those of others I've talked to, the KR Episode 7 drop tables are accurate for Cabal NA. Drop rates are not released for any version of the game as far as I'm aware and in any case they are routinely changed. The wiki is only reflecting the most accurate and reliable information available. If you know of a better source for this information then you're more than welcome to update the wiki.

No I can't update the wiki unless I get an official NA drop list for a source, Lol. The reason I say these above items are removed, is because the drop rates were common - between the 200-300 on my WI in 2010 -and the 260 on my WA 2011-2012 including pre-post ft1 drop rate system changes; all the time uchh and fchh were readily available, blue forcium cores/quarts/mat cores were easy to obtain (look at the prices now in market cuz they not dropping anymore?). I don't understand if they were going to implement the drop rate changes to ft1 it would not make sense to nerf the dungeon from its past state to the current state without removing the items. Why would they make uchh drop like its an epic drop? You see the logic flaw there? If they nerfed the ft1 drops (possible lowering/change in rates but not table) it would make sense to have the item completely removed and replaced with the new grade of drops (lower). Uch drop now normally like an old sod in some runs lol, red osm crafts drop fine rate, its just not one single uchh/fchh/acbf/quarts/bf mat core drops since they re-worked the drop rates for that dung.

It makes sense to me because ft1 is now like the new lid/sod lol, not much challenge especailly with how cheap average gear is + the addition of character binding stuff. A player now whos running ft1 compared to 09 will have much easier time, granted ft1 wasn't really ever that much of an accomplishment, Lol. It seems to be logical that they nerf'd down the grades of drops (removal of mystic/tg/sg grade non craft drop armors + uchh/fchh and few other things).

I don't see much point in lowering non-valuable items (uchh 0-2 slot mystic/tg/sg) to a "rare" rate. That doesn't seem logical at all....

Interestingly enough, the reason I can't get confirmation either way besides not having a official drop list for NA, is there was no patch notes including FT1 re-working because it was implemented after Episode V : Mercenaries (http://www.cabal.com/UpdateReview/Read/The_Merceneries#Reformed-Dungeon-Drops) but before Episode VI : Legacy of Darkness (http://www.cabal.com/UpdateReview/Read/Legacy_of_Darkness) Either that or they just didn't include ft1's changes into either of the patch notes.. Either way it would be nice to have an actual accurate list of the drops.

[zarn]

No I can't update the wiki unless I get an official NA drop list for a source, Lol. The reason I say these above items are removed, is because the drop rates were common - between the 200-300 on my WI in 2010 -and the 260 on my WA 2011-2012 including pre-post ft1 drop rate system changes; all the time uchh and fchh were readily available, blue forcium cores/quarts/mat cores were easy to obtain (look at the prices now in market cuz they not dropping anymore?). I don't understand if they were going to implement the drop rate changes to ft1 it would not make sense to nerf the dungeon from its past state to the current state without removing the items. Why would they make uchh drop like its an epic drop? You see the logic flaw there? If they nerfed the ft1 drops (possible lowering/change in rates but not table) it would make sense to have the item completely removed and replaced with the new grade of drops (lower). Uch drop now normally like an old sod in some runs lol, red osm crafts drop fine rate, its just not one single uchh/fchh/acbf/quarts/bf mat core drops since they re-worked the drop rates for that dung.

It makes sense to me because ft1 is now like the new lid/sod lol, not much challenge especailly with how cheap average gear is + the addition of character binding stuff. A player now whos running ft1 compared to 09 will have much easier time, granted ft1 wasn't really ever that much of an accomplishment, Lol. It seems to be logical that they nerf'd down the grades of drops (removal of mystic/tg/sg grade non craft drop armors + uchh/fchh and few other things).

I don't see much point in lowering non-valuable items (uchh 0-2 slot mystic/tg/sg) to a "rare" rate. That doesn't seem logical at all....

Interestingly enough, the reason I can't get confirmation either way besides not having a official drop list for NA, is there was no patch notes including FT1 re-working because it was implemented after Episode V : Mercenaries (http://www.cabal.com/UpdateReview/Read/The_Merceneries#Reformed-Dungeon-Drops) but before Episode VI : Legacy of Darkness (http://www.cabal.com/UpdateReview/Read/Legacy_of_Darkness) Either that or they just didn't include ft1's changes into either of the patch notes.. Either way it would be nice to have an actual accurate list of the drops.

I can't really speak for ESTsoft's choices regarding drop rate. I only wish to address your argument that the drop tables are inaccurate. As I said before, my experience and those of friends that play the game is the items listed in Episode 7 drop tables do in fact drop where they are indicated. UCHH, FCHH and quartz/material cores still drop from FT1. Sure the rate may be different than it was 6 months or 1 year ago but those items still drop. ACBF were removed from the drop tables in all maps and dungeons, this is reflected in the Episode 7 tables and correlates with the market price you mention. Is there a particular item that has dropped for you that is not indicated on the drop table?

It seems to me your argument is more along the lines of "why are drop rates lower for some items than they used to be" rather than "the table is inaccurate because I got an item that shouldn't drop in FT1". Sure there may be items on the list that have a drop rate negligibly small such that it seems they have been removed from the list. Unfortunately for this case we can only trust the only drop table information that has been provided is accurate. However, aside from the items known to be very rare (rol2 for example) the Episode 7 tables appear accurate.

I'm not sure which "re-working of FT1" you're referring to. The last major overhaul of the drop system was Episode 5 which is clearly stated in the patch notes. Since then there have been changes (bike kits, slotted bikes, drei frame etc.) but again those changes are mentioned in patch notes and consistent with the current drop table.

In conclusion, I think what you're really asking for is a drop rate table not just a drop table. The items you've mentioned explicitly in FT1 are consistent with the episode 7 drop table. Unfortunatly drop rate tables are something ESTsoft does not release to the best of my knowledge.

[sn0wXz]

I can't really speak for ESTsoft's choices regarding drop rate. I only wish to address your argument that the drop tables are inaccurate. As I said before, my experience and those of friends that play the game is the items listed in Episode 7 drop tables do in fact drop where they are indicated. UCHH, FCHH and quartz/material cores still drop from FT1. Sure the rate may be different than it was 6 months or 1 year ago but those items still drop. ACBF were removed from the drop tables in all maps and dungeons, this is reflected in the Episode 7 tables and correlates with the market price you mention. Is there a particular item that has dropped for you that is not indicated on the drop table?

It seems to me your argument is more along the lines of "why are drop rates lower for some items than they used to be" rather than "the table is inaccurate because I got an item that shouldn't drop in FT1". Sure there may be items on the list that have a drop rate negligibly small such that it seems they have been removed from the list. Unfortunately for this case we can only trust the only drop table information that has been provided is accurate. However, aside from the items known to be very rare (rol2 for example) the Episode 7 tables appear accurate.

I'm not sure which "re-working of FT1" you're referring to. The last major overhaul of the drop system was Episode 5 which is clearly stated in the patch notes. Since then there have been changes (bike kits, slotted bikes, drei frame etc.) but again those changes are mentioned in patch notes and consistent with the current drop table.

In conclusion, I think what you're really asking for is a drop rate table not just a drop table. The items you've mentioned explicitly in FT1 are consistent with the episode 7 drop table. Unfortunatly drop rate tables are something ESTsoft does not release to the best of my knowledge.

In episode 5 FT1 is not included in the patch notes at all, http://forum.cabalonline.com/showthread.php?174356-Patch-Notes-Episode-V-Mercenaries-%2813-12%29&p=2107431&viewfull=1#post2107431 instead listed is "Changed the drop table for some Dungeons"

Changed dungeons:
Illusion Castle Underworld
Illusion Castle Radiant Hall
Altar of Siena B1F
Altar of Siena B2F
Forbidden Island

Thats why I stated, the changes to ft1 are NOT reflected in patch notes....


Also thats the Episode 5 patch notes, if you look at patch notes for episode 6 it includes changes to drop table as well, but again does not mention forgotten temple b1f.

http://forum.cabalonline.com/showthread.php?188739-Patch-Notes-Episode-VI-Legacy-of-Darkness-%2829-06%29&p=2221387&viewfull=1#post2221387

Changes to the drops of certain dungeons

Changed option of certain low / high level epic items
Changed so that Buff potions and Blessing beads will not drop in weakened dungeons
Changed so that Extract Potions will not drop in certain dungeons
Dungeons: Lake in Dusk, Frozen Tower of Undead B1F, , Frozen Tower of Undead B2F
Changed the option of ‘Attack’, ‘Magic Attack’ to ‘All Attack UP’
Changed the option of ‘Sword / Magic Skill Amp.‘ to ‘All Skill Amp.UP’
Changed the slot option of Earrings / Bracelets to low epic option

So where can we actually find these changes, Lol.....?

[Cathy]

In episode 5 FT1 is not included in the patch notes at all, http://forum.cabalonline.com/showthread.php?174356-Patch-Notes-Episode-V-Mercenaries-%2813-12%29&p=2107431&viewfull=1#post2107431 instead listed is "Changed the drop table for some Dungeons"

Changed dungeons:
Illusion Castle Underworld
Illusion Castle Radiant Hall
Altar of Siena B1F
Altar of Siena B2F
Forbidden Island

Thats why I stated, the changes to ft1 are NOT reflected in patch notes....

You can download the drop list (in microsoft excel form) of every dungeon and map (up to date as of episode 8) on the korean website.

http://www.cabal.co.kr/Default.aspx?wbs=4.2.9

[sn0wXz]

You can download the drop list (in microsoft excel form) of every dungeon and map (up to date as of episode 8) on the korean website.

http://www.cabal.co.kr/Default.aspx?wbs=4.2.9

Yea I already have that one from korean site, and thats what cabalwiki is translated from, if you stick the korean text into google translator you essentially get the wiki list. There is a few words that are mixed up but you can tell what they are. There is a few issues I have with that drop list, for one I can't find the date it was added, and secondly its for KR cabal version which I'm sure they could differ possibly but its also possible they lowered the rates of the mentioned items with exception of astral core being removed; I cant find the changes to ft1 in patch notes, but yet there was changes with osm crafted epics/char bind drops, just kinda thought it was odd how ft1 is the only one that didn't get put in the patch notes after the changes. Lol.

I don't think I'm missing it anywheres, although thats possible too.

[zarn]

Yea I already have that one from korean site, and thats what cabalwiki is translated from, if you stick the korean text into google translator you essentially get the wiki list. There is a few words that are mixed up but you can tell what they are. There is a few issues I have with that drop list, for one I can't find the date it was added, and secondly its for KR cabal version which I'm sure they could differ possibly but its also possible they lowered the rates of the mentioned items with exception of astral core being removed; I cant find the changes to ft1 in patch notes, but yet there was changes with osm crafted epics/char bind drops, just kinda thought it was odd how ft1 is the only one that didn't get put in the patch notes after the changes. Lol.

I don't think I'm missing it anywheres, although thats possible too.

I'm not sure why the historical changes to the drop table matter to you nor the absence of mentioning FT1 changes explicitly from the patch notes. It may be a translation error as EOD, and LID also seem to be excluded and yet those drop tables also changed. It's likely that at the time each episode was released in KR the excel spreadsheet that contains the drop tables was updated and the information you seek was to be found there. Historical drop tables may be located somewhere on the KR website but I haven't bothered to look for them.

Isn't it sufficient to have a drop list that reflects the state of the current game release? I already demonstrated to you that at least for all the specific cases you mention the wiki tables are an accurate reflection of the state of the current game. Why would it matter to have a drop table for an older version of the game or the dates specific items were changed?

Finally, you keep mentioning drop rates in your posts which is confusing since the drop table (the item originally the topic of this thread) is not meant to give any information about the drop rate value aside from non-zero. Drop rate certainly may be different between KR and NA versions however all evidence available indicates that the drop tables are the same.

[Cathy]

I'm not sure why the historical changes to the drop table matter to you nor the absence of mentioning FT1 changes explicitly from the patch notes. It may be a translation error as EOD, and LID also seem to be excluded and yet those drop tables also changed. It's likely that at the time each episode was released in KR the excel spreadsheet that contains the drop tables was updated and the information you seek was to be found there. Historical drop tables may be located somewhere on the KR website but I haven't bothered to look for them.

Isn't it sufficient to have a drop list that reflects the state of the current game release? I already demonstrated to you that at least for all the specific cases you mention the wiki tables are an accurate reflection of the state of the current game. Why would it matter to have a drop table for an older version of the game or the dates specific items were changed?

Finally, you keep mentioning drop rates in your posts which is confusing since the drop table (the item originally the topic of this thread) is not meant to give any information about the drop rate value aside from non-zero. Drop rate certainly is different between KR and NA versions however all evidence available indicates that the drop tables are the same.

The drop list is the same, however I am not completely sure that the rates are the same, but I think they are. The only difference should be player population and number of channels.

[Valdoroth]

The drop list is the same, however I am not completely sure that the rates are the same, but I think they are. The only difference should be player population and number of channels.
Yup. This is exactly what it is.