questions kred vs bike ect

[SetsuYui]

ok so basicly I was wondering what's the max cdi for a 3 slot bike, I think its 8% a slot. so I'm wondering if the bike is actually better than the k-red minus the amp loss in pvp or should you mix amp/cd into the bike? Also I wanted some opinions on +15 topaz orbs is 7/40/34 a must or can you just do 40 damage, I haven't seen any for sale so if you could tell me a price range that'd be great as well.

[forumtwizzler]

I hope you don't mind answering this question. My suggestion is to go Siggy or above. The reason is in bm2 you need a higher base to make an impact. I myself had a +15 15/24 topaz cry and +15 siggy orb 40 % cd. I sold my topaz and went for a 40/7 helmet.

For the longest time I was debating myself to get a 7% m amp orb +11 for around 800m to switch during bm2 / aos / aura. But I decided to change it and go dual siggy weps and chagned to 7% amp 24 cd sig.

The ideal setup :

1. 2x siggy dmg +11 or above, preferred one has 40/7% rate and one with 24/7% amp.

DO NOT GET another 40% cd wep.

2. 40/7 helmet
3. 4 x cr2 / 3 or preferrd 4x ros10
4. 3 slot bike with amp and m atk
5. Pet filled with m atk and amp.
6. Keep the gears at tg, by 180 you can potentially hit 930 def with 360 hp for approx. 150 def

You don't need more than this , because you can vamp the rest out, specially with a bike you can hit around 930 ish def.

THIS IS BETTER than 3 x foricum glove , suit , boot - where you have to sac like 25 - 23 m atk and 360 hp. at +15 tg vs forcium.

7. 4x cr2 during aos / aura, merg / killan ring ~ 46% rate. or just put a rol1 for more rate and max it to 56% rate w/o bm2 or aura.
8. The max rate ideal : 3% aop , 3% rune. that way you don't have to compromise hp / dmg from suit / pet.

I doubt you will feel too much difference between a 56% rate and 60% rate in the time it crits. Or you can push 2% max in a suit and go for 58% rate.

Reason for supporting higher amp and m atk which tops topaz:

1. bm2 will need more base, new bm3 might do great
2. In nw people are wearing lw, in aura / bm2 , which will have a high defense.

I honestly think my FA can make an impact by time I hit 180. This is my setup it's a good suggestion. I am at my office, I will give you a ss when I get home.

End gear build :

With this setup you can hit approx. 200 cd , 50% + amp and 1100 + m atk 46% rate atk by 180.
or 186 % + cd , 56% rate 50% amp 1100 m atk.

~ 950 def , with extra 360 hp if you have boot and suit extended.
Of if you are me nice pet , and 10% m amp glove about 920 def and 55% m amp.

This is also a MUCH cheper build than full forcium defense gear / wep.

[SetsuYui]

Thanks alot twiz, about the bike wouldn't it be better to use 1 slot for amp and the rest critical damage? I can't really use TG because I'm kinda stuck with 2 bound forcium amp pieces. I guess i'll try to hunt for a orb or crystal to try rate, which would you prefer for sig drops FI or ic2?

[hellomydear]

I see someone hasn't changed..Still with those dam essays.