GG craft system

[Berserk_Fury]

So I went to craft an aop+6, it succeeded, but I didn't get an aop+6

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4281/cabal1208161431ver30700.jpg

[Lyro]

So thats how we get Craftsman Ammies past +1...u craft other stuff and it'll randomly appear. Genius

[Sprite]

i'll buy it 200m

[Berserk_Fury]

So thats how we get Craftsman Ammies past +1...u craft other stuff and it'll randomly appear. Genius

No I've made lvl 4s from lvl 1 craftsman

[2kwik]

it doesnt mean you made that item, you just get a craftman item instead.

i crafted a rof+8 and gave me ring lvl3

[Berserk_Fury]

it doesnt mean you made that item, you just get a craftman item instead.

i crafted a rof+8 and gave me ring lvl3

Wish we had patch notes that actually explained that... Gonna be funny to see someone go for an aop7 craft, and make a craftsman amulet +1

[macbowes]

I'm confused. So when you go for an AoP6 craft, what are the potential outcomes, fail, AoP6, and Craftsman +4?

[Berserk_Fury]

I'm confused. So when you go for an AoP6 craft, what are the potential outcomes, fail, AoP6, and Craftsman +4?

Looks like it, I made another craftsman +4 the 2nd time I tried. IDK if those are the only possibilities though.

[brusky]

Just Wish patch notes was here to str8en things out

[Andrea]

How does it work? It's really easy, all u do is click away, a few button here and there, and craft!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlL_k889ICs&feature=youtu.be

[Teppi]

o.o



(Official CabalSEA patch notes)

6. Added Craftsman's Accessory

- Enable to get craftsman's accessory by crafting it directly, or can obtain by certain chance while crafting other accessories

[cronic21]

Looks like it, I made another craftsman +4 the 2nd time I tried. IDK if those are the only possibilities though.

i tried a aop+6, got an aop+4...

[BigBoy]

:( its gonna be so hard to level up your basic craft level, i spent like 20m and only got 30 amnity points......

[whitetrash]

New craft system is S h I t all there is too it

[boredom]

lol @ gs crafting. I'm in the 7000+ amity bracket and so far failed 4/4 osm and 15/15 red gs. Then i decided to test if I had more luck in bluestin, and failed 1/2 in that too.

I'm pretty sure crafting is bugged. Not plausible that a 7k+ amity crafter can fail bluestin and 100% of osm/redosm crafting to date. Not possible >.<

[Berserk_Fury]

lol @ gs crafting. I'm in the 7000+ amity bracket and so far failed 4/4 osm and 15/15 red gs. Then i decided to test if I had more luck in bluestin, and failed 1/2 in that too.

I'm pretty sure crafting is bugged. Not plausible that a 7k+ amity crafter can fail bluestin and 100% of osm/redosm crafting to date. Not possible >.<

With 6k+ amulet crafting, I failed 5/5 aog+9 crafts. Out of aop6 crafts, 2 came out with craftsman amy+4, 1 failed so far. It seems the crap rate of crafts is rather terrible.

[Lute]

lol @ gs crafting. I'm in the 7000+ amity bracket and so far failed 4/4 osm and 15/15 red gs. Then i decided to test if I had more luck in bluestin, and failed 1/2 in that too.

I'm pretty sure crafting is bugged. Not plausible that a 7k+ amity crafter can fail bluestin and 100% of osm/redosm crafting to date. Not possible >.<

Craft level supposedly has no effect on success rate and only effects the amount of energy used per craft

[DanteX]

^ thats freaking lame x.x

[boredom]

Craft level supposedly has no effect on success rate and only effects the amount of energy used per craft

Whats the point of crafting if leveling it up does not increase success rate? May as well reroll another weapon crafter with 0 amity and make a PC forci gs straight off the bat. Makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

[Lute]

I might not even mind the fail rate....if the successes weren't so fail most of the time anyway. Yay I crafted a 16dmg 7attack.......1slot orb.


Whats the point of crafting if leveling it up does not increase success rate? May as well reroll another weapon crafter with 0 amity and make a PC forci gs straight off the bat. Makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

BUT HIGHER LEVEL gives you MORE ENERGY! and less used per craft! and then you can do more so eventually you might not fail 1!!!!

Didn't say it made sense, just that that's what I read and have heard.

[DanteX]

i get what trap means and it should be that way ._.

[Travesh]

I want to know what happened to the time and effort and oodles and oodles alz I pumped into my sword crafting to this new crap? http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/3c68bb64.gif

[Lucifer]

I want to know what happened to the time and effort and oodles and oodles alz I pumped into my sword crafting to this new crap? http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/3c68bb64.gif
.....flushed...into an empty void of rage and unhappiness for all those who did the same thing u did D; I feel yah

[boredom]

I want to know what happened to the time and effort and oodles and oodles alz I pumped into my sword crafting to this new crap? http://www.cute-factor.com/images/smilies/onion/3c68bb64.gif


.....flushed...into an empty void of rage and unhappiness for all those who did the same thing u did D; I feel yah

Yup. 4 years leveling up gs craft to forci, only to be back failing osm/redosm gs like a nub. Starting to really question the logic behind these Korean game developers. Too much sake (or w/e the fawk koreans drink) lol.

[plzbuffme]

soju 8D

[loma4eva]

I Dunno why Ppl Ragin about da New Craft System!!..every1 who spent alz or time on Lvlin his/her craft is bein rewarded Now...I know it Seems Like every1 can Craft everything but actually that's not true cause simply ur Amity affect ur Success chance And Output..For travesh u were at forcy or Reds GS so u'll be havin like 5k-6k Amity..won't be that hard for u 2 craft a PC Reds or Osm..Unlike others who have just started craftin GS n they think they can go forcy from da beginin!!da Only thing every1 is startin from da Begining is da Master craft..it'll take like a year 2 get ur Amity higher at Master craft n trust me it worth it since Master Piece is kinda GM Weapon o.o....a 18 Dmg/3amp/7 1 slot Forcy that is insane !!..most of ppl who's ragin r those who spent so much alz on Sig event to be Epic..Now i guess in like 6 months or though all of those Now a day Epic players will get much stronger or will get So much weaker if they didn't start workin for their Master pieces set =)
*Notice: that's my Point of view so plz No trolls or flames <3 yeah N BTW i tried to craft aop+6 like 7 times..neva made it although i got 6k amity 2 =)

[IBladE]

I attempted the Aop6 craft today.. And I got me an Aop5 =/

[Lute]

I Dunno why Ppl Ragin about da New Craft System!!..every1 who spent alz or time on Lvlin his/her craft is bein rewarded Now...I know it Seems Like every1 can Craft everything but actually that's not true cause simply ur Amity affect ur Success chance And Output..For travesh u were at forcy or Reds GS so u'll be havin like 5k-6k Amity..won't be that hard for u 2 craft a PC Reds or Osm..Unlike others who have just started craftin GS n they think they can go forcy from da beginin!!da Only thing every1 is startin from da Begining is da Master craft..it'll take like a year 2 get ur Amity higher at Master craft n trust me it worth it since Master Piece is kinda GM Weapon o.o....a 18 Dmg/3amp/7 1 slot Forcy that is insane !!..most of ppl who's ragin r those who spent so much alz on Sig event to be Epic..Now i guess in like 6 months or though all of those Now a day Epic players will get much stronger or will get So much weaker if they didn't start workin for their Master pieces set =)
*Notice: that's my Point of view so plz No trolls or flames <3 yeah N BTW i tried to craft aop+6 like 7 times..neva made it although i got 6k amity 2 =)

That might be true...if it actually worked like that. But it seems that level/Amity has absolute 0 effect on the success chance or outcome...I know more lower level people that have made better/non-failed crafts than higher level people. Lvl1 rings popping out lvl4 crafting rings, lvl4 Amulets getting AoP6 and lvl6/7 Amulets failing AoP6 non-stop, lvl3 making Rol2 and lvl6 failing...

The ONLY thing that level seems to effect is max energy and energy used per craft

[loma4eva]

That might be true...if it actually worked like that. But it seems that level/Amity has absolute 0 effect on the success chance or outcome...I know more lower level people that have made better/non-failed crafts than higher level people. Lvl1 rings popping out lvl4 crafting rings, lvl4 Amulets getting AoP6 and lvl6/7 Amulets failing AoP6 non-stop, lvl3 making Rol2 and lvl6 failing...

The ONLY thing that level seems to effect is max energy and energy used per craft

I'll quote Cabal Sea Patch Notes:
Added Craftsman’s Accessory
- Combined grade of accessory crafting into 4;Lv. 1/Lv. 2/Lv. 3/Lv. 4
-Each grades needs different materials to craft
-Making higher level of accessories gives more opportunity to get higher grades of accessories
-The rate of success depends on the craft mastery. No point of craft mastery would be given when trying to make lower grade of
accessory than character’s craft mastery
-Enable to get craftsman’s accessory by crafting it directly, or can obtain by certain chance while crafting other accessories
- If craft level is high, the more chance is given to get higher grade of craftsman’s accessory

[whitetrash]

Quote it all you want that's not how it is
It's almost like they have it backwards
I have 7k mastey and I fail like crazy have yet to have one pass

[Yowai]

friend made an aop6 at lvl 1 craft lol.. craftings broke

[Lute]

Quote all you want...everyone I know with high level crafting fails non-stop including myself making lvl1 craftsman amulets/rings yet lvl1 succeeds all day lol

[whitetrash]

Quote all you want...everyone I know with high level crafting fails non-stop including myself making lvl1 craftsman amulets/rings yet lvl1 succeeds all day lol

This

[cronic21]

-Making higher level of accessories gives more opportunity to get higher grades of accessories
-The rate of success depends on the craft mastery

maybe on OTHER servers this is true, but for us on NA its a bs lie.


Craft level supposedly has no effect on success rate and only effects the amount of energy used per craft

u can say that again
5332 7 fails on lvl 1 craft when im lvl 4... ya...bs system. also got 10 fails in a row yesterday. couldnt try anymore bc no energy.

[Nozomi]

Quote all you want...everyone I know with high level crafting fails non-stop including myself making lvl1 craftsman amulets/rings yet lvl1 succeeds all day lol

What if that's a bug?

Our GM Viral (cabal EU) said "Major stuff... just a couple of events still to come, and we'll get the bug-fixed version of the update."

which bugs is he referring to?

[Lute]

What if that's a bug?

Our GM Viral (cabal EU) said "Major stuff... just a couple of events still to come, and we'll get the bug-fixed version of the update."

which bugs is he referring to?

Only "bug" I can 100% say there is, is that the warp to the center tower in arcane trance DC's people with EC6 like mad...like 1 in 4 uses

Another possible bug...or intended dunno, it seems normal attacks aren't effected by flee rate aka you can always hit people with intuition with normal attacks

If the crafting etc IS glitched...it's sure nice of them not to fix it or tell us before people dumped billions and billions into it, not to mention all the materials.

Even if it is glitched and gets fixed...nothing like crafting RoL2s and getting RoL1 outcome...no idea how many times I've crafted x item and had to use y as a material and gotten y back out as the result.

[Berserk_Fury]

I love chain failing lvl 1 amulet crafting at 6k+

[2kwik]

friend made an aop6 at lvl 1 craft lol.. craftings broke

rofl i crafted 4 aop+4 and it gave me aop-aop2 every time

[cronic21]

i think they got it set up like this, lvl 1 trying lvl 1 gets alot of success. if the same lvl 1 trys a aop+5 etc, they will get aop+1-4.

if a lvl 4 crafts lvl 1 amulets, they will fail alot, meant to be that way so as having to buy the lvl 1s from other lvl 1 crafters in market. if the same lvl 4 goes to craft aop+5 or 6, they should succeed most times bc its the lvl their suppose to be crafting at.

if a lvl 7 goes to craft a aop+5, they will be failing alot bc its under their lvl. meanin their forced to be trying for aop6/7 etc.

just my personal opinion of how they have it set up after my own experience and other ppls.

[Berserk_Fury]

i think they got it set up like this, lvl 1 trying lvl 1 gets alot of success. if the same lvl 1 trys a aop+5 etc, they will get aop+1-4.

if a lvl 4 crafts lvl 1 amulets, they will fail alot, meant to be that way so as having to buy the lvl 1s from other lvl 1 crafters in market. if the same lvl 4 goes to craft aop+5 or 6, they should succeed most times bc its the lvl their suppose to be crafting at.

if a lvl 7 goes to craft a aop+5, they will be failing alot bc its under their lvl. meanin their forced to be trying for aop6/7 etc.

just my personal opinion of how they have it set up after my own experience and other ppls.

Too bad high level crafters still fail like crazy on high level crafts.

[Sandulf]

Got on tried to craft some amulets, made 4~5 then "not enough energy" de faq?...quit! HElloooo Vindictus ;D

[Lute]

yes...except that at 4k I make nothing but AoG5s, AoP+2/3s, and fail craftsman amulets...and fail ANYTHING higher level.

[boredom]

yes...except that at 4k I make nothing but AoG5s, AoP+2/3s, and fail craftsman amulets...and fail ANYTHING higher level.

Yup. 7k and I can make bluestin and tit w/o too much issue. stit is about 30% success (no amity gain) and every osm/redosm that I've tried has failed (no sucess yet). Crafting broken beyond belief.

Also curious about what 'glitches' that GM is refering too also.

[DanteX]

yo foreal fak crafting gm better get on this crap. been failing bs crafts left and right missin the old system already

[QQsomemoreplz]

as a 6999 kat crafter i failed 7 redosm kats in a row and then moved to my 5999 ammy crafter and failed 2 aop6 in a row then moved to a 6999 forcy helm crafter and failed the only attempt i made.

so basically i failed all the crafts i have tried and didnt even get a lower grade of thing. just plain failed

[Lute]

as a 6999 kat crafter i failed 7 redosm kats in a row and then moved to my 5999 ammy crafter and failed 2 aop6 in a row then moved to a 6999 forcy helm crafter and failed the only attempt i made.

so basically i failed all the crafts i have tried and didnt even get a lower grade of thing. just plain failed

Trust me when you "succeed" with the let's be generous and say 20% chance of aop6 and get an AoP4 or craftsman amulet lvl4 from your AoP5 it's not "better" you passed and yet get nothing. It'd be one thing if this fail rate was as it is and when we passed we always got the good outcome that we wanted...but no. At least before when you tried to make AoP's you might not always get an aop6...but an aop5 was still worth something, it wasn't the base material you need to throw into the craft.

[QQsomemoreplz]

also the energy system is ridiculous, this char with 1200 max energy can craft for like 1 min and thats it. i thought the idea was to promote and renew crafting, not piss people off when they see "you have no energy" every few minutes

[cronic21]

made 7 aop+5s today out of 9 tries. obv made the 4s to try the 5s also.

started a lvl 1 amu crafter to make the craftmens amulets, save the lvl 4s energy for craftin the aop's.

[Valdoroth]

Energy is restored at a rate of 5 per 1 minute.


Btw, in case you were wondering how the artifact crafting worked, it's lvl 1 has it's +0 crafts the +2, and +3 like the old system. This translates to +0 (0 low) +1(0 high or low slotted) +2 ( +0 high slotted or +2) +3(+2 slotted) and +4 (PC) ammy's at lvl 1. Lvl 2 Crafting simply bumps them all up 1.


SO this being said, crafting an AoP+7 is to get a PC craft on the lvl 4. Lowest you'll get is a +3.

[2kwik]

made 7 aop+5s today out of 9 tries. obv made the 4s to try the 5s also.

started a lvl 1 amu crafter to make the craftmens amulets, save the lvl 4s energy for craftin the aop's.

yeah exactly what i do, but fuuck amulets/rings i just fail crafted my 3rd rof+9(almost impossible to find rof+6 now unless you randomly craft I believe), and spent 40m on 2 aop+5 to hopefully get a +5 or +6, or at least a +4 and both failed. Everytime I craft AOP+4 it gives me AOP+2 or less/fails.

Rather waste my time crafting weapons/armors now.

[Davynelord]

Seems this crafting change only made it so it's easier to attempt crafting, but I suspect they haven't made a single change to crafting results. Not saying that this system may not be bugged though, it's certainly possible...but really, they can't make it too easy to craft and have success or else everyone would be crafting top level stuff all day every day. You wouldn't be able to make money off it either if it were easy to succeed...I suspect the first PC forcium (with it's great stats) will probably go for about 15b in AH....lol

[QQsomemoreplz]

failed my second rol2, 3rd aop6, 2nd aop5.

so far i am at 27 fails and with no successes whatsoever. and that's using chars who are maxed out in their professions

[Travesh]

Know who else is pissed that they can't get a decent craft?

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/5ae4_6848.jpg

[xvxURIZENxvx]

Good thing I came here before I went to craft gloves.....I'd be all heated if I dumped all that alz and it failed like crazy.

[EvilAi]

iDecepticon just made a cr2 in just 1 attempt, and his ring craft points w/e is around 1k....

[DanteX]

yea faild 2 rol2 and i got 5999 craft points ._.

[Berserk_Fury]

iDecepticon just made a cr2 in just 1 attempt, and his ring craft points w/e is around 1k....

A friend of mine passed rol2 craft on his first try, and I don't think he's done ring crafting before. Then he tried 6 times to craft one for someone else, failed every time.

[DanteX]

lol^

[Lute]

A friend of mine passed rol2 craft on his first try, and I don't think he's done ring crafting before. Then he tried 6 times to craft one for someone else, failed every time.

Failed first try, succeeded 2nd rol2 try actually, but yes have failed all 6+ tries since then for friend. And I was lvl3 amulet crafting or 1999 or w/e before and upgraded to 2k before trying

[ieatfacebook]

new craft system=more alzs buyer

[cronic21]

failed 6 aop6s in a row... i give up crafting. S> all materials.

[loma4eva]

Lol Just Made 1 AOP6 =D =D ...that was my 12th try...But well Now I got 1 =D =D !!!

[cronic21]

Lol Just Made 1 AOP6 =D =D ...that was my 12th try...But well Now I got 1 =D =D !!!

cost over 100mil per try, 12 tries......u might as well of just bought 1.

[DanteX]

cost over 100mil per try, 12 tries......u might as well of just bought 1.
i think aop6 cost more than 1.2b lol

[cronic21]

i think aop6 cost more than 1.2b lol

1 i said over* 100mil per try, u can sell a aop5 for bout 30mil on average +15 cj6s lowest possible is 105mil there, so ur lookin at 135mil without the other lil discs etc. that comes to 1.62 bil for 12tries, aop6 is 2bil....u see my pt? very lil gap difference, and im sure he worked up his crafting to be able to make aop6s, which this new craft system shyt on. it should not take 12 tries to make something that is ur lvl to be making.

[loma4eva]

1 i said over* 100mil per try, u can sell a aop5 for bout 30mil on average +15 cj6s lowest possible is 105mil there, so ur lookin at 135mil without the other lil discs etc. that comes to 1.62 bil for 12tries, aop6 is 2bil....u see my pt? very lil gap difference, and im sure he worked up his crafting to be able to make aop6s, which this new craft system shyt on. it should not take 12 tries to make something that is ur lvl to be making.
I've tried 6 times n All failed...Then I tried 5 times but those were in Row..1st 1 gave me aop5..2nd failed..3rd 1 gave me Craftsman ammy lvl 4...4th 1 failed..5th 1 Popped an AOP6 =D =D ...n yeah i got like 6.1k amity =) ..n i still believe new Craftin system ain't that bad..since previous system it was kinda Impossible 2 make such a thing

[cronic21]

I've tried 6 times n All failed...Then I tried 5 times but those were in Row..1st 1 gave me aop5..2nd failed..3rd 1 gave me Craftsman ammy lvl 4...4th 1 failed..5th 1 Popped an AOP6 =D =D ...n yeah i got like 6.1k amity =) ..n i still believe new Craftin system ain't that bad..since previous system it was kinda Impossible 2 make such a thing

old system didnt have such high requirements tho e.g. old system u could craft 10 in a row np, new system u cant bc of energy. whos to say if that actually increases ur chances vs doing 1 craft at a time? no clue, but its wat ppl did.

and the new basic craft...garbage. use to have to get to 100% for next lvl, now u basically have to get to 1000% with limited crafting options even if ur such and such lvl. lvl 3000 i can only craft amplifiers or redosm cores.. till 3200, so they want us to craft redosm cores 200x, in quantities of 20x,to be able to craft something new...ya...garbage.

[godafe]

If you dont want to buy CJ6 and lose profit, you can destroy the Ammy/Ring level 4 that you craft with CJ3. I only spend money on CJ3, Shape Lv1, and lv1 discs. More time consuming than alz consuming.


lvl 3000 i can only craft amplifiers or redosm cores.. till 3200, so they want us to craft redosm cores 200x, in quantities of 20x,to be able to craft something new...ya...garbage.

Agreed, they should give the previous level (Only the previous, not every level) a reduction in craft exp (Say, from 3 or 4 exp to 1).

[agressia]

Hi, I'm newby in the game, played for a long time... but a lot has changed. Say what materials need to be collected in advance what would later craft. I want to craft swords. Starting with titanium materials will I need with one slot or two? for weapons of deathblow. And what material should be collected for shadowtitanium, 1 slot or 2 slots.

[cronic21]

Hi, I'm newby in the game, played for a long time... but a lot has changed. Say what materials need to be collected in advance what would later craft. I want to craft swords. Starting with titanium materials will I need with one slot or two? for weapons of deathblow. And what material should be collected for shadowtitanium, 1 slot or 2 slots.

1slot is needed for all crafting up until osmium gear. 2slot starts at osmium. collect all discs, and all the cores u break down, and break down everything that u cant sell in auction house. gl

[agressia]

1slot is needed for all crafting up until osmium gear. 2slot starts at osmium. collect all discs, and all the cores u break down, and break down everything that u cant sell in auction house. gl
Thank you. Do I understand that now the weapon of deathblow is made of titanium one slot?

[cronic21]

Thank you. Do I understand that now the weapon of deathblow is made of titanium one slot?

deathblow is no longer an option of crafting. only craftmans tit blade etc. u get to choose rate, crit dmg, or amp craft urself. only 3 options now(which is basically deathblow). and yes, titanium 1slot.

[agressia]

deathblow is no longer an option of crafting. only craftmans tit blade etc. u get to choose rate, crit dmg, or amp craft urself. only 3 options now(which is basically deathblow). and yes, titanium 1slot.
Thanks !
I sent you in pm a second question

[cronic21]

Thanks !
I sent you in pm a second question

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couldnt pm u the images so here they are.

[agressia]

yes, this is what i need, thank you.

[truely false]

Crafting has always been a hit or miss system from day one. The old system also had its fails but did allow for crafting tries in quantities (not limited by energy amount level). Also the old system didn't require extra crafting material i.e. 2 or more shape cards and the multiple core crystals just to craft 1 item. If you think on it the old system was simplistic because players were locked in on 1 crafting style not like the new system. A player can choose up to 5 different styles to craft. Weather these new crafting changes are for the better only in the future will we know. As for now because we players are the first in NA to deal with this new crafting system of course it seems crap or s ucks or fails because we have to deal with the change from the old system. In other words we are comparing so we see and experience the differences in both ways of crafting. So those players who are not getting the success as often as they did with the old system say this new one s ucks. The new crafters who are experiencing a bit of success are happy until they start to fail. Then they too start saying it s ucks. When you all just need to remember if it was easy and without some risk of failure then how much value would it really be in playing or in this case crafting. As for the new system having or being bugged who knows for sure if it is bugged. If this is the case then players should stop crafting until it is fixed. Mean time, the smart thing to do is farm for materials and store them until it is safe for crafting again. Just my humble opinoin... :rolleyes::p:rolleyes:

[Rice]

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x409/umadbrah1/eanji0.jpg

[truely false]

LMAO ^^^ Yah I got carried away with what I wanted to say but I think it need to be said anyway...:p

[agressia]

Who knows deleted or no Temporary Formula Card for craft bikes ?

[truely false]

All Formula Cards be it temp or not have been removed from game. As for bike crafting, I believe future patchs will allow for them according to Korean site patch notes. Then again this NA and we don't always recieve the same or complete updates as Korean Cabal...:p