So sad...

[Sandulf]

So attempted to do ic1... and the 2nd boss spawns together with all the mobs around him? And 1st drop is force core hh? WOW cabal im disappointed, what do u want us to do for farming?
Have GMs considered the low lvls when they updated Cabal? u want us to spawn citadel until we get rich off puny uch (which almost never drop) or run parties which will turn into loot stealing adventures.

Anyway was gona ask how do u guys farm for money considering u have 1-2h a day to play only, or is it all about luck like the casino?

[Rice]

I
pwn
nooblords
for cash
np
500m
a
day

[Nozomi]

being low lvl in cabal s. Dungeons like ic1 are barely profitable solo, let alone in party. But a low lvl won't be able to solo it unless he has epic gears from main high lvl char (now someone will claim he soloed ic1 with 3amp shadowtita pieces).
So what's left? Basically what you said. Farm low lvl dungeons such as lid, eod1, sod to pile up some money, then lvl up to 150 at least and try to get bm3 as soon as possible. That will help a lot to duo higher dungeons (siena1, eod2, FI aswell but harder).

What class are you btw?

[Berserk_Fury]

Back in the old days I've done 200+ lid, 500+ eod1, 200+ sod, 200+ ft1 solo for money. Right now you could do 1/4 of that, if not less, and have gear you need to do ic1 solo. Unless you're like 130 and are too lazy to level up, in which case that's your own fault.

[Nozomi]

Back in the old days I've done 200+ lid, 500+ eod1, 200+ sod, 200+ ft1 solo for money. Right now you could do 1/4 of that, if not less, and have gear you need to do ic1 solo. Unless you're like 130 and are too lazy to level up, in which case that's your own fault.
Running 500eod1 would make his balls drop down to the ground.

[cronic21]

Running 500eod1 would make his balls drop down to the ground.
running 500 of any dungeon is borrrrinngggg. too few dungeons on cabal, hell any1 could run all the dungs on this game(that are accessable to lvl 160+) in 1 day, and mmo should have more variety.

[Berserk_Fury]

running 500 of any dungeon is borrrrinngggg. too few dungeons on cabal, hell any1 could run all the dungs on this game(that are accessable to lvl 160+) in 1 day, and mmo should have more variety.

You're talking about a 5 (or older?) year old f2p mmo here. Also I'm counting 18 dungeons in the game, unless I'm missing something. On MMO standards that aren't pure dungeon, I think that's pretty good.

[Deathlymonkey]

If you're 140-150 you can duo eod2 with a friend and spam it. Its pretty fast, has decent drops and you get a shot at killian

[Sandulf]

well im 147 currently my stats are not the best wa with bm3 stage 1
def 850, atck 900, amp 46, rate 45, cd 106 (with buffs)
i would do eod2 with someone but im usually more of a solo person (more drops since passes cost alot now)
its just kinda tired of doin easy dg like citadel and not getting any good drops unless i do 100+ times which on
my 1-2h a day thats 4runs/day to get 100+ runs thats ~ALOT just to get something
But thanks for ur imput (ya not running eod1 500+ times...u crazy left after got my merg)

[xFaLL3NxAng3L]

all i have to say is . . . . get over it and play or uninstall
either i dont care

[cronic21]

You're talking about a 5 (or older?) year old f2p mmo here. Also I'm counting 18 dungeons in the game, unless I'm missing something. On MMO standards that aren't pure dungeon, I think that's pretty good.

im not talkin bout just dungeons, but in a whole, few varieties or choices. wat all choices does a lvl 115 have to lvl? with decent xp, same for 125, how bout 150? 170? all have 1 map. and u cant count traps bc it wasnt made to be used as us players use it. we just basically learned to glitch it.

they give us 1 map to run over and over always. hell look at crafting now, use to be able to craft lots of dif types, now its down to 3 dif choices in weps and 2 choices in armor. thats est saying this way, is the only way.

[Rice]

QQ

[Notavi]

Your Lvl 147. And your complaining bout ic1 solo givign crappy drop. Well lvl up simple solution. And + not everytime you run a dg it will drop something epic, or else everybody would been rich. it up and go lvl

[cronic21]

So attempted to do ic1... and the 2nd boss spawns together with all the mobs around him? And 1st drop is force core hh? WOW cabal im disappointed, what do u want us to do for farming?
Have GMs considered the low lvls when they updated Cabal? u want us to spawn citadel until we get rich off puny uch (which almost never drop) or run parties which will turn into loot stealing adventures.

Anyway was gona ask how do u guys farm for money considering u have 1-2h a day to play only, or is it all about luck like the casino?

cabal is not a gamer for people who only have 2hrs a day to play. honestly...

[ROFLwiz]

cabal is not a gamer for people who only have 2hrs a day to play. honestly...

Pretty sure a player could get atleast one level a day and/or atleast a ic2 done in 2 hours of play.

[Cathy]

cabal is not a gamer for people who only have 2hrs a day to play. honestly...

Actually, Cabal is much less grindy than other MMO's. And even the Cabal Devs acknowledge that; in a recent interview they were saying how Cabal has a large "adult" audience due to the fact that it's "easy" compared to more hardcore MMO's that are mostly teens with more free time.

[cronic21]

Actually, Cabal is much less grindy than other MMO's. And even the Cabal Devs acknowledge that; in a recent interview they were saying how Cabal has a large "adult" audience due to the fact that it's "easy" compared to more hardcore MMO's that are mostly teens with more free time.

to roflwiz, hes 147 therefor every1 keeps tellin him to lvl and every1 lvls at 147 at traps, = 3hrs he said he has 1-2hrs and im pretty sure hes gonna need a party member to get traps set up and that pty member isnt gonna be ok with leaving dung half way thru.

to cathy, cabal is more of an adult MMO based on cash shop prices and the ability to pretty much trade str8 cash for alz and buy characters already lvled for u etc.

not only that, but this cabal is receiving everything it gets from cabal Korean which has a MUCH larger player base which makes it work alot better for them. there has been no changes added strictly for us NA users, where a MUCH smaller population has a big affect on how the game was setup to run.

with as small of a community as we have, we shouldnt even have 2 seperate servers.

[Tenrai]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN7GlamqZNQ

[ieatfacebook]

Black power

[xFaLL3NxAng3L]

Black power
:D

[ROFLwiz]

to roflwiz, hes 147 therefor every1 keeps tellin him to lvl and every1 lvls at 147 at traps, = 3hrs he said he has 1-2hrs and im pretty sure hes gonna need a party member to get traps set up and that pty member isnt gonna be ok with leaving dung half way thru.

to cathy, cabal is more of an adult MMO based on cash shop prices and the ability to pretty much trade str8 cash for alz and buy characters already lvled for u etc.

not only that, but this cabal is receiving everything it gets from cabal Korean which has a MUCH larger player base which makes it work alot better for them. there has been no changes added strictly for us NA users, where a MUCH smaller population has a big affect on how the game was setup to run.

with as small of a community as we have, we shouldnt even have 2 seperate servers.

Haha all these new kids think ic2 traps or . people still use pf. I know i'm old school i guess. and last i checked you profit from grinding a lot more then trapping for 3 hours. just saying.

And for ur reply to cathy, well, compaired to pretty much every other popular MMO cabal is the easiest as far as leveling goes. You can hit 170 with some really decent gear within a few months as in other games it takes months to just level not even talking about the endless dungeoning for decent gear.

[cronic21]

Haha all these new kids think ic2 traps or . people still use pf. I know i'm old school i guess. and last i checked you profit from grinding a lot more then trapping for 3 hours. just saying.

And for ur reply to cathy, well, compaired to pretty much every other popular MMO cabal is the easiest as far as leveling goes. You can hit 170 with some really decent gear within a few months as in other games it takes months to just level not even talking about the endless dungeoning for decent gear.

i grinded pf 140-160 as a squishy wiz solo, dont gotta tell me nuttin bout it. and drops are so few, there is no profiting grinding pf. where as traps are ez, aog7s, and uchs.

compaired to other games ppl still sell characters/accounts on most MMOs, but cabal has accepted the fact that its gonna happen and are cashing in on it. makin it ez for mid age workin guy to join cabal, like it, buy a 170 the next day and be set. how many other popular free-to-play games u know thats cash shop items are 40-200 bucks? most are more like 10-20. higher standards here, therefor more for adults.

[truely false]

I agree, Cabal NA has evolved into a P2W MMO for adult players. This was not always the case, I remember ep1 open beta and ep2 back then it was Cabal OGP. The only players who had an advantage were premium players(players who paid to play). Thier advantage was they could skill grind on dummies so you could have a level 10 trans. I think things really started to change with ep3 and evolve into the Cabal we have today. Good or bad I can't say for sure because I'm still a very dedicated player. Sure there are some changes I wish EST had not made but oh well such is the will of the almighty EST Developers...:rolleyes: :p :rolleyes:

[cronic21]

I agree, Cabal NA has evolved into a P2W MMO for adult players. This was not always the case, I remember ep1 open beta and ep2 back then it was Cabal OGP. The only players who had an advantage were premium players(players who paid to play). Thier advantage was they could skill grind on dummies so you could have a level 10 trans. I think things really started to change with ep3 and evolve into the Cabal we have today. Good or bad I can't say for sure because I'm still a very dedicated player. Sure there are some changes I wish EST had not made but oh well such is the will of the almighty EST Developers...:rolleyes: :p :rolleyes:

ya i was here during ogp, been premium since day 1 lvl 1 lvl 10 dual trans.

[Sandulf]

So u say lvling is easy? I can lvl faster in LOL than in Cabal...maybe u aoe hack and lvl fast but im doin it legit. Plus lvl has nothing to do with ur ability to run high end dg so its all bout equips. Sure i run 500+ eods that will get me maybe a full amp set. K now upgrade it ...painfull to watch. cant do ic1 ok ok lets run 200+ citadel. Do u see what i mean? I might as well hack and have a better time than get bored legitly a quit this game.

[ROFLwiz]

So u say lvling is easy? I can lvl faster in LOL than in Cabal...maybe u aoe hack and lvl fast but im doin it legit. Plus lvl has nothing to do with ur ability to run high end dg so its all bout equips. Sure i run 500+ eods that will get me maybe a full amp set. K now upgrade it ...painfull to watch. cant do ic1 ok ok lets run 200+ citadel. Do u see what i mean? I might as well hack and have a better time than get bored legitly a quit this game.

Level has ALOT to do with running high end dungeons. sure gear plays a big part to but level does also. I have never seen a 115 run a ft2 nor a lvl145 run MO. and no one wants to run dungeons with a low level player anyway. And actually being able to solo dungeons in this game is nice and something you can't do in most other MMO's. So my advice to you is to level and find a guild to run things with, and if you like LOL so much please feel free to go play it instead of complaining here.

[cronic21]

Level has ALOT to do with running high end dungeons. sure gear plays a big part to but level does also. I have never seen a 115 run a ft2 nor a lvl145 run MO. and no one wants to run dungeons with a low level player anyway. And actually being able to solo dungeons in this game is nice and something you can't do in most other MMO's. So my advice to you is to level and find a guild to run things with, and if you like LOL so much please feel free to go play it instead of complaining here.

and u will never see a 115 run ft2...u have to be 125 to enter...

[Cathy]

All I hear sandulf and cronic21 saying is "Cabal is hard" ...

Even the korean devs who made this game said it's too easy.

[Sandulf]

Where exactly did i say it was hard? It easy if u have no life... basically i said its time consuming that's all. I didn't make the thread to complain (since that is all u see u must be highly egoistic person that thinks settling things in the game will make u better) i was looking for advice (since that what low lvl ppl do) maybe cathy u want to disrespect every person out there who is in need of some guidance and then cabal will have a lesser player base if that's what u want. So instead of being a faq how about u realize that ur game ego and ur life are totally different things.

[Cathy]

Where exactly did i say it was hard? It easy if u have no life... basically i said its time consuming that's all. I didn't make the thread to complain (since that is all u see u must be highly egoistic person that thinks settling things in the game will make u better) i was looking for advice (since that what low lvl ppl do) maybe cathy u want to disrespect every person out there who is in need of some guidance and then cabal will have a lesser player base if that's what u want. So instead of being a faq how about u realize that ur game ego and ur life are totally different things.

The point is that you're wrong about that. This game is MUCH less time consuming compared to other MMO's.

Compare WoW and Cabal for a sec.

How long does it take to get lv.80 in WoW compared to getting lv.180 in Cabal?

How long does a dungeon in WoW take and how long does a dungeon in Cabal take?

[Deathlymonkey]

I agree, Cabal NA has evolved into a P2W MMO for adult players. This was not always the case, I remember ep1 open beta and ep2 back then it was Cabal OGP. The only players who had an advantage were premium players(players who paid to play). Thier advantage was they could skill grind on dummies so you could have a level 10 trans. I think things really started to change with ep3 and evolve into the Cabal we have today. Good or bad I can't say for sure because I'm still a very dedicated player. Sure there are some changes I wish EST had not made but oh well such is the will of the almighty EST Developers...:rolleyes: :p :rolleyes:


If you played at the beginning of cabal you should know that level10 couldn't skill on dummies. You had to be level 90+ AND premium.

[Flit]

Only thing hard in cabal is getting money, which just got even harder after this update.

[Deathlymonkey]

Only thing hard in cabal is getting money, which just got even harder after this update.

This must be a joke

[Mishon]

It's ultimately cheaper to just buy alz, saves weeks of grinding tedious dungeons praying for a decent drop.

[Nozomi]

It's ultimately cheaper to just buy alz, saves weeks of grinding tedious dungeons praying for a decent drop.

Indeed I'm starting to think the same as of late.
After you grind to 190, after you max out all runes, after you've run thousand of dungeons already (with only 2 real party dungeon: FT2 and MO), keep doing that again and again you start to realize is much better to live your life and spend some bucks on cabal, rather than waste all your life there and still ending up spending money on it nonetheless.
One party dungeon every 1 year looks ok, np. We will have fun running HV solo meanwhile, also np.

[Sandulf]

Finally some people get it! Cathy ur Wow example and Cabal example is bad...there are MANY more games like cabal or better where lvling is easier: Vindictus, maple story, dragon nest...Plus Wow is a pay to play game which is sad in itself. Not saying make this game easier by giving us PC drops left and right but start at the core of the issue that is lvling and gear dependencies that some classes have. Its easier to gear a fs compared to a wa or wi. IK whatever i say here wouldn't make a difference to gm's so...we should prob forget bout this thread and many others cuz it pointless to waste time on useless conversations. (that fact alone is sad)

So im gona shut up and enjoy my 1-2h of cabal with its sh1ty drops and big mouth ppl like cathy which make my gaming experience so much better ;D

[Nozomi]

The point is that you're wrong about that. This game is MUCH less time consuming compared to other MMO's.

Compare WoW and Cabal for a sec.

How long does it take to get lv.80 in WoW compared to getting lv.180 in Cabal?

How long does a dungeon in WoW take and how long does a dungeon in Cabal take?

yeah but what do you get in 1 wow dungeon run, and what do you get in 1 cabal dungeon run?

I never (luckily) played WOW but I play cabal and can tell you from 90% of runs all you will get is npc crap and cores, or little drops worth almost nothing.
To make real alz without buying ecoins you gotta run 20-30 dungeons daily (during our EU free entry event I used to play 30 hours cabal-5hours sleep-repeat to pay for safeguards). Without playing 15/24 hours daily you won't go past basic set, unless you are lucky and get a big drop every dungeon you run, which is unlikely.


big mouth ppl like cathy

that's interesting in a different point of view o.o

[ROFLwiz]

Finally some people get it! Cathy ur Wow example and Cabal example is bad...there are MANY more games like cabal or better where lvling is easier: Vindictus, maple story, dragon nest...Plus Wow is a pay to play game which is sad in itself. Not saying make this game easier by giving us PC drops left and right but start at the core of the issue that is lvling and gear dependencies that some classes have. Its easier to gear a fs compared to a wa or wi. IK whatever i say here wouldn't make a difference to gm's so...we should prob forget bout this thread and many others cuz it pointless to waste time on useless conversations. (that fact alone is sad)

So im gona shut up and enjoy my 1-2h of cabal with its sh1ty drops and big mouth ppl like cathy which make my gaming experience so much better ;D

So what your trying to say is your lazy?? in 2 hours of play i can get 4-5 IC1'S done in a duo OR get 1-2 lvls. And you only get sh1ty drops because your to lazy to work for anything in a game. might as well play a p.servers.

You'r logic for saying gear is everything is flawed. I know a lot of people who are all gear no brain get owned by players in much less gear. It's just about how you play your class and how much you know about the game. Yes gear does make a difference, but not as much as you think. And isn't 99% of MMO's gear based?

[cronic21]

And you only get sh1ty drops because your to lazy to work for anything in a game.

rofl ive ran 100 ic1s, all junk lycans and npc crap and cores, 200+eods 0 merg drops, round 50ish ic2 1 bof+6, 89 aos1 few crap braces 1 tradeable 1 magic attack rune 1 8amp 2 slot WA helm... and much more dungs. now is ur excuse here i didnt spend enough time playing or was i lazy?

cabals drops are ed up, period. any other game, if u kill a boss, for a quest EXPECIALLY, u get the boss drop.

just like how new update was all "tradeable lycan, drei, etc etc" yet everytime i do the dungs, still character bound junk.

guess my 16hr a day, 70ish ap daily on cabal wasnt enough :/ im too lazy.

[xFaLL3NxAng3L]

All Im hearing from you guys are Q.Q and Complaining
"QQ OMG Dungeon so boring" blah blah blah "Leveling Is Hard " Q_Q


so u guys think that dungeons should drop u whatever you want whenever you want?
then when u get crappy drop you cry like a 5yro kid

all i got to tell u guys is grow the up =___=
cabal isnt supposed to be easy and duh u gonna get crap drops

cabal is way more easier than it was back in the day
these new players don't even understand what us veteran players had to go through all these years of playing
then they have the nerve to complain about stuff thats dumb ugh

lvling is so much ez today than back in the day
nowadays u can just firetrap/pi till 180 then AT till 190
back in the day all we had was PF and the exp was trash

and back in the day when if u had pc tit blades u was considered pro
or had a bike

all new players have it easy
and u guys can buy characters now?
we had to make our own characters from scratch and we actually had to work hard on them lawl

idk why new players QQ yall got it made

[cronic21]

All Im hearing from you guys are Q.Q and Complaining
"QQ OMG Dungeon so boring" blah blah blah "Leveling Is Hard " Q_Q


so u guys think that dungeons should drop u whatever you want whenever you want?
then when u get crappy drop you cry like a 5yro kid

all i got to tell u guys is grow the up =___=
cabal isnt supposed to be easy and duh u gonna get crap drops

cabal is way more easier than it was back in the day
these new players don't even understand what us veteran players had to go through all these years of playing
then they have the nerve to complain about stuff thats dumb ugh

lvling is so much ez today than back in the day
nowadays u can just firetrap/pi till 180 then AT till 190
back in the day all we had was PF and the exp was trash

and back in the day when if u had pc tit blades u was considered pro
or had a bike

all new players have it easy
and u guys can buy characters now?
we had to make our own characters from scratch and we actually had to work hard on them lawl

idk why new players QQ yall got it made

im not new. cabal is easier lvling, way easier, i never said nothin bout lvling.go lvl a wiz with 600 def solo in pf 140-160 in a week.

im talkin bout how drops have never been good in cabal.

and cathy talks bout " korean GMs say cabal is too ez" ya well korea cabal also has a player base that is 10x ours. ALL their maps are populated, ALL their maps get farmed, so ah has somethin of everything. us here on NA, no low lvl maps have been rly played beyond the quests. all dung lvling, we rely on bots for crafting supplies and always have since the transfer. if we had a bigger player base, entries would be more plentiful, supplies etc. not only that, but us as americans, we r lazy, thats no lie, thats y we came up with firetrappin in the 1st place.

[ROFLwiz]

rofl ive ran 100 ic1s, all junk lycans and npc crap and cores, 200+eods 0 merg drops, round 50ish ic2 1 bof+6, 89 aos1 few crap braces 1 tradeable 1 magic attack rune 1 8amp 2 slot WA helm... and much more dungs. now is ur excuse here i didnt spend enough time playing or was i lazy?

cabals drops are ed up, period. any other game, if u kill a boss, for a quest EXPECIALLY, u get the boss drop.

just like how new update was all "tradeable lycan, drei, etc etc" yet everytime i do the dungs, still character bound junk.

guess my 16hr a day, 70ish ap daily on cabal wasnt enough :/ im too lazy.


This leads to luck, Every game has a luck factor some more some less, seems your luck isn't so great. I ran idk maybe 50-70 aos2 and i have gotten pc items along with some 10amp forci fb gloves. And idk some 100ish ic2's throughout my chars and have gotten a few pc items along with some pretty nice dro's. So as you see it's a matter of luck and determination and WORK!

As for Lyc, Drei, dro's, etc drops at a random rate of cb and non-cb.

[cronic21]

This leads to luck, Every game has a luck factor some more some less, seems your luck isn't so great. I ran idk maybe 50-70 aos2 and i have gotten pc items along with some 10amp forci fb gloves. And idk some 100ish ic2's throughout my chars and have gotten a few pc items along with some pretty nice dro's. So as you see it's a matter of luck and determination and WORK!

As for Lyc, Drei, dro's, etc drops at a random rate of cb and non-cb.

ya well u cant say players dont put in the work just bc cabal has terrible rates.

[Nozomi]

All Im hearing from you guys are Q.Q and Complaining
"QQ OMG Dungeon so boring" blah blah blah "Leveling Is Hard " Q_Q


so u guys think that dungeons should drop u whatever you want whenever you want?
then when u get crappy drop you cry like a 5yro kid

all i got to tell u guys is grow the up =___=
cabal isnt supposed to be easy and duh u gonna get crap drops

cabal is way more easier than it was back in the day
these new players don't even understand what us veteran players had to go through all these years of playing
then they have the nerve to complain about stuff thats dumb ugh

lvling is so much ez today than back in the day
nowadays u can just firetrap/pi till 180 then AT till 190
back in the day all we had was PF and the exp was trash

and back in the day when if u had pc tit blades u was considered pro
or had a bike

all new players have it easy
and u guys can buy characters now?
we had to make our own characters from scratch and we actually had to work hard on them lawl

idk why new players QQ yall got it made
what was acceptable years ago is not so anymore.
Would you want to go back to ep1 and skill manually up to double trans? To do promos that took days to complete? MMOs are now mainstream games, aimed towards casual gamers not heavy grinders anymore.

You want to know why cabal dropsystem is flawed? Go run MO in party, while I run aos1 solo. It will take approx the same time (around 15min/run both MO and aos1). Guess who will make more alz? Now tell me why the highest party dungeon in the game yields less profit than lower solo dungeons?
That what I call working less getting more. We don't have ep9 on EU yet so perhaps something will change with the new craft system.

[Cathy]

All Im hearing from you guys are Q.Q and Complaining
"QQ OMG Dungeon so boring" blah blah blah "Leveling Is Hard " Q_Q

I agree. Cronic21 and Sandulf are just gonna qq saying you need to have no life and play 16 hours a day to do well in this game etc etc.

"I've run 100 ic1 and got nothing good blah blah"

I've been playing 1 hour a day for a while and I don't have any complaints about the alz I make or the drops I get lol. People just need to stop being crybabies.

[xFaLL3NxAng3L]

I agree. Cronic21 and Sandulf are just gonna qq saying you need to have no life and play 16 hours a day to do well in this game etc etc.

"I've run 100 ic1 and got nothing good blah blah"

I've been playing 1 hour a day for a while and I don't have any complaints about the alz I make or the drops I get lol. People just need to stop being crybabies.

+1

[truely false]

Everyone should just chill out and stop bashing players for their right to complain or opinoin. We all have our issues with the game be it crafting or leveling or farming or even dungeon spamming as well as the drops and drop rates. Let us not forget the Alz spammers and the bots and hackers. My point is the game is not perfect but it is still an entertaining one. As for the topic of the thread the bad drops I would say it is a matter of individual opinoin. If you are a player who has dropped some epic items well from your prespective drops are great. If you haven't dropped anything epic your prespective would be crappy. As for me I've been in the middle of the road with the drops some days great some not so great such is the life of an MMO player...:rolleyes: :p :rolleyes:

[Sandulf]

lol Cathy and Chingu need to learn how to read and no assume ppl are QQing...telling ppl they are lazy, wth dude...do u understand of term "life" or HW? 2h a day is enough for me i don't wanna mess up my eyes and wear glasses. Stop thinking ur the boss just cuz u have more pixels of alz and better gear (they did a psychological study uk on gaming behavior and stuff look it up maybe ul learn something). Or is it QQ to simply ask the different perspectives of cabal farming/lvling? U think i haven't played when cabal came out...ur assumptions are wrong cuz i did.
Maybe i should rephrase my question: would anyone wanna run some dg? ;D

[SunnyAtdawn]

You make tons of money by standing in the middle of BI /dance2 qqing about how you make no alz.

On a serious note, find a guild/person you can trust and just duo w.e dungeon with them.
(My brother and I pooled the money and gear we collected and it really did help both of us alot.)

Aos1/Aos2/sod/crazy steamer are probably the best dungeons to farm. Ic1 is too expensive and barely nets any profit.
Ic2 is great but its way too time consuming. Anything that takes over 30min to complete is a waste of time really.
It always does come down to luck though. If ur that person with no luck gg.

[TheBiggestNoobOnTheServer]

The thing is IMO it should never come down to luck. If this game had for example, quest that were 1000x harder that guaranteed rewards like terra grade armor PC the player population would be like 3x larger. Some of u guys say its Q.Q call it what you want, but nothing can justify doing a dungeon over 50x and getting nothing worthwhile. That is just demoralizing when you know uve done X amount of dungeons and never get anything while some "lucky" people get the best stuff with less effort. Effort should translate to rewards. The most successful mmos all have certan dungeons or bosses that guarantee some sort of medium-high value item that at least keeps people playing. It doesn't have to be forcy PC something like terra which would make people better and motivate them to continue playing because it will lead to something (of course pixels are nothing but you should get the point). The idea that this game has the lowest drop rate out of any and all mmos out there doesn't see far fetched to me. And considering we dont have that many players compared to other mmos that is actually sad.

[cronic21]

The thing is IMO it should never come down to luck. If this game had for example, quest that were 1000x harder that guaranteed rewards like terra grade armor PC the player population would be like 3x larger. Some of u guys say its Q.Q call it what you want, but nothing can justify doing a dungeon over 50x and getting nothing worthwhile. That is just demoralizing when you know uve done X amount of dungeons and never get anything while some "lucky" people get the best stuff with less effort. Effort should translate to rewards. The most successful mmos all have certan dungeons or bosses that guarantee some sort of medium-high value item that at least keeps people playing. It doesn't have to be forcy PC something like terra which would make people better and motivate them to continue playing because it will lead to something (of course pixels are nothing but you should get the point). The idea that this game has the lowest drop rate out of any and all mmos out there doesn't see far fetched to me. And considering we dont have that many players compared to other mmos that is actually sad.

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awaits to hear cathys QQ more.

[Sandulf]

The thing is IMO it should never come down to luck. If this game had for example, quest that were 1000x harder that guaranteed rewards like terra grade armor PC the player population would be like 3x larger. Some of u guys say its Q.Q call it what you want, but nothing can justify doing a dungeon over 50x and getting nothing worthwhile. That is just demoralizing when you know uve done X amount of dungeons and never get anything while some "lucky" people get the best stuff with less effort. Effort should translate to rewards. The most successful mmos all have certan dungeons or bosses that guarantee some sort of medium-high value item that at least keeps people playing. It doesn't have to be forcy PC something like terra which would make people better and motivate them to continue playing because it will lead to something (of course pixels are nothing but you should get the point). The idea that this game has the lowest drop rate out of any and all mmos out there doesn't see far fetched to me. And considering we dont have that many players compared to other mmos that is actually sad.

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[SunnyAtdawn]

They should make a system where dungeons drop better stuffs the more times you run it consecutively. So running like 5 ic1's in a row should yield better drops for the players. Of course the matter of luck is still a big factor and the percentage at which pc items drop doesnt even have to be that high but this will def. motivate pple into spamming dungeons. Maybe even reward players who run dungeons consecutively with an extra chest or something. I know it gets tiring after running like 12 aos2s and not getting . So increasing the percentage of drops with consecutive runs would be nice for everyone.

[EvilAi]

Cathy's always right, namsaying?

[cronic21]

They should make a system where dungeons drop better stuffs the more times you run it consecutively. So running like 5 ic1's in a row should yield better drops for the players. Of course the matter of luck is still a big factor and the percentage at which pc items drop doesnt even have to be that high but this will def. motivate pple into spamming dungeons. Maybe even reward players who run dungeons consecutively with an extra chest or something. I know it gets tiring after running like 12 aos2s and not getting . So increasing the percentage of drops with consecutive runs would be nice for everyone.

it should have a set up like u have 1/10 chance to get somethin, quaranteed. to where either 1st run or up to 10th run, u get said items.

[infoleather]

I think things really started to change, EP3, and evolved into today's earth-shattering. Is good or bad, I can not say for sure, because I am still a very dedicated player.

[Sandulf]

Oh ya things have changed a lot for sure...3 attempts to put random in slot with 85% chance for success and all fail. last time i flipped a quarter a had a better luck of getting both heads and tails. Cabal is true representation of statistical probability of independent events.