Ep 10

[Cathy]

Some new info on the next update, Ep 10. More info can be found on Mr. Wormy's Blog (or CursedSpirit's thread on Cabal EU forums)

I highlighted in Red the parts that I found to be really interesting :P

Seems like STR/INT/DEX is gonna matter a lot more than it does now.



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Aug 30th 2012
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■ Fixes
1. Fix the bug that caused monsters did not appear in Bloody Ice
2. Some quests are not reinitializable after sell quest items to NPC
3. Fix the bug that displayed the empty Creation date in character selection window
4. Fix the bug that allowed inviting members exceed the limited number


■ Changes
1. Change the Defensive calculation formula


Old Defense stats will reduce received damage
Change the way of calculating damage reduced by % based on defense
Based on character level, the formula varies

2. Change the Increase Critical Damage option so it will not affected by skill damage
3. Change the Evasion calculation formula


Old Evasion stats will be applied as the chance to evade based on %

4. Increasing Attack / Magic Attack effect changes


Attack : Increasing STR will give more Attack (with Blader and Force Blader, increasing DEX will give more Attack too)
Magic Attack : By increasing INT, Magic Attack will be increased


* Based on Battle Style the affection of Stats on Attack / Magic Attack varies
5. Skill Rank-up STR / DEX / INT bonus changes
6. Item stats changes


Stats of Weapons / Armors / Accessories / Buff potions are changed
Differences between Item grades change

7. All monsters in Fields / Dungeons stats are changed
* This will be adjusted during the testing progress
8. Skills which give Addition Damage and Buff / Debuff Skills are adjusted
* This will be adjusted during the testing progress
9. Achievement-related changes


Change the requirements of some items / dungeons achievements
Change the condition of showing achievement publicity
Raised some hunting achievements reward

10. Display the content of Party Chat in Bubble same as Normal Chat
11. Allow using Ctrl + Left Click / Drag-and-drop item from a received mail
12. When the input-cursor is in the Sub-Password input box, if player presses the Tab button, the focus will be moved to "Change the Sub-Password" button

■ Additions
1. BLOCK evaluation


MISS

Will be triggered if player evade an opponent's attack
Calculating based on Attacker's Hit and Defender's Evasion


BLOCK

Will be triggered as soon as attacker casting attack skill
Calculating based on Attacker's Attack Rate and Defender's Defense Rate


2. Add new stats


Damage reduction

If the character is damaged, the Damage reduction will reduce the Damage received




Hit

Increase the chance of successful attack
Hit joins as an element in the calculation of opponent's Evasion
Each battle style has a different formula for calculating opponent's Evasion
There is a basic stats of Hit for each battle style




Penetrate

Increase the damage of attack
Penetrate joins as an element in the calculation of the reducing of opponent's Defense
Each battle style has a different formula for calculating of the reducing of opponent's Defense
There is a basic stats of Penetrate for each battle style


3. Stats affected by increasing STR / INT / DEX


STR : Increasing STR affects Increase Damage Reduction value
INT : Increasing INT affects resistances

Crit Rate. / Skill Amp. / Unmovable / Critical Damage / Stun / Down / Knockback


DEX : Increasing DEX affects Attack Rate / Defense Rate / Evasion


* Below features will be adjusted during the testing progress


Attack / Buff / Debuff rebalancing
New Buff / Debuff adding
Existing skills stats and effects adjustment
Skill Interface improvement
Integration between Skill Ranks and Skill EXP
Integration between Sword and Magic skill slots

4. New achievements added


General Achievements: 22
Quests Achievements: 29
Dungeon achievements: 2
Items Achievements: 22
PVP Achievements: 15
War Achievements: 19
Hunting Achievements: 20
Share Achievements: 11

5. Guild-related


Add a message which will be appeared on the completion of Guild Announcement changing
Add the new command in the right-click menu of Guild window

Add the "Add" command


6. Allow registering mercenary to Quick Slot

■ Mission War
1. Add the red message in the System message area if player got kicked out from the Mission War

[Lucifer]

._. hmmm.....idk why but this makes me think about hybrid FBs....INT=resist to rate/amp? :O

[Berserk_Fury]

Sounds like a ridiculous update. You don't just come into a game that's been running for years, and change how all stats are applied and how they work.

[ROFLwiz]

Only in cabal.

[ROFLwiz]

And so wi/fa epic now??? resist up the ass

[Lucifer]

And so wi/fa epic now??? resist up the ass
lol Romp's bike+HR20+Int resist rate.....WHY!?

[Cathy]

Sounds like a ridiculous update. You don't just come into a game that's been running for years, and change how all stats are applied and how they work.

It does sound strange at first, but when you think about how they're changing up hit/miss along with how defense is factored in, I'm sure the 6 classes won't be really unbalanced. I think It'll just be a slight inconvenience at first to get used to.

It's basically a giant update on defensive stats, considering how our offensive stats have gotten so high.

I am personally looking forward to seeing the new Block/Miss. BL's and FB's could become "evasion tanks" instead of just pure hp/def tanks. (Lightning in FF13 was an awesome evasion tank as a sentinel, in case anybody played it :>)


And so wi/fa epic now??? resist up the ass

Until we have details we can only speculate which class (if any) would be op. It might be that 1 INT = 0.002 resist rate, or it might be more.

But it seems like:

WA/FS with str will get higher "damage reduction" a new stat.

FA/WI with int will get various "resistances" the kinds we already have like resist rate/cd/stun/down/kb

BL/FB with dex will get high "block" a new stat.

[NewEra]

By the time episode 10 hits i'll call it quits...

[boredom]

Time to reroll stats to DEX warrior lol

[macbowes]

Sounds to me that they're just making all these changes to prepare players for CABAL2.

[Corvettezr1]

wow dawg rofl...

[Rice]

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x409/umadbrah1/heman_nooo-1.gif

[truely false]

Sounds to me that they're just making all these changes to prepare players for CABAL2.

idk but @macbowes might have a point there. Anyway the update is not coming to NA anytime soon which give us time to keep on complaining about the lates update Arcane Trace...:p

[bloodwarrior2]

u tootla misses the re arranging in war and eod b3f

[i sell stuff]

http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x409/umadbrah1/heman_nooo-1.gif
and i say heyyyyeyyyeyyyeyyeyyaaaaaa heyyeyyyyeyyyaaaa i say hey whats goin on?

On topic: After cathy explained each stat, it didnt seem THAT bad =/ but i still dont like the fact that they're renovating it.

[Valdoroth]

Sounds like a ridiculous update. You don't just come into a game that's been running for years, and change how all stats are applied and how they work.
It has to do with the Battle Stances. Depending on which stance you are in, your stats will differ in how they do what the stance is supposed to. Probably also for the new war modes (yes plural).

[Hikushiru]

Seems legit.

[CookieWiz]

i like this

[Tenrai]

D2: Lod stat allocation!!! Yeaaaaah

[F7AngeL]

<3 cabal 2 fa http://cabal2.com/teaser/pds/wallpaper/06_1920_1200.jpg

[ROFLwiz]

<3 cabal 2 fa http://cabal2.com/teaser/pds/wallpaper/06_1920_1200.jpg


tesssssssssssssssssssssssssss! 0_0

[CookieWiz]

http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/3963/0819201200.jpg
^_^

[ROFLwiz]

fa is hotter! :D

[F7AngeL]

fa is hotter! :DHii and totally!

[CookieWiz]

>.< no cookies for u guys x.x
fa is ugly!!

[ROFLwiz]

>.< no cookies for u guys x.x
fa is ugly!!

You ugly! ><

[IAmEvil]

i will begin hoarding extract pots XD

[Cathy]

o.o

a preview of how they're changing our buffs:



▶ Test Server

■ Fixes
1. SP did not regenerate while using Dance social skills
2. Evasion was applied abnormally for skills and items

■ Changes
1. Stats of monsters in Fields / Dungeons changed


For improving the result of test, respawn time of bosses is reduced to 10 minutes

Changes and Adjustments for monsters / boss stats will be applied during test period


2. Raise the Add Damage for Expert skills
3. Raising the base attack of battle modes for Force Archer and Force Shielder
4. Adjust the Amp increase for single target attack skills of Blader and Force Archer
5. Changes related to Upgrade Skills


Increase stats of Attack / Magic Attack / Defense Upgrade skills
Decrease stats of Attack Rate / Defense Rate Upgrade skills

6. Changes related to Buff Skills


Increase the Attack reduction of Wizard skill : Weaken
Increase the Attack of Force Blader skill : Enchant Blade
Increase the Distance of Force Shielder skill : Mighty Wish
Increase the Defense Rate of Force Shielder skill : Astral Shield

7. Changes related to Stats


Amount of Defense Rate raised base on DEX lowered
Amount of Damage reduction raised base on INT increased

8. Increase the property obtained by granting option to items
9. Minor changes to Achievement system

■ Additions
1. Monsters multi-buff testing

[bloodwarrior2]

i say they arfe preparing us to patch cabal2 to cabal 1

[ROFLwiz]

i say they arfe preparing us to patch cabal2 to cabal 1

Cabal 2 is a whole different game. they just don't throw an update to cabal and say here's cabal2! lmao.

3. Raising the base attack of battle modes for Force Archer and Force Shielder
4. Adjust the Amp increase for single target attack skills of Blader and Force Archer

So ur saying FA's bm gets even more OP?
and lances do even more dmg??

Still looks like fa is OP after this update.

[Cathy]

Cabal 2 is a whole different game. they just don't throw an update to cabal and say here's cabal2! lmao.

3. Raising the base attack of battle modes for Force Archer and Force Shielder
4. Adjust the Amp increase for single target attack skills of Blader and Force Archer

So ur saying FA's bm gets even more OP?
and lances do even more dmg??

Still looks like fa is OP after this update.

I believe "single target skills" refers to the orange text skills

Which makes sense when you compare Shooting Star to Assassinate and Whirlwind

[ROFLwiz]

So more of a reason to lvl20 shooting star. Still looking forward to this update looks kinda interesting.

[Nozomi]

yay for enchant blade boost!

[cronic21]

"Decrease stats of Attack Rate / Defense Rate Upgrade skills"

well, sixth sense just went out the window

and it looks like this is mainly gonna make fa more op(increaseing their skill dmg and their base dmg), and add more dmg for already high base crit fs's.

as an fb, i would like to see the 3 buffs turned into 1 or w/e bc they do take up 3 buff slots and its just annoying getting heal or somethin and losing a blade skill bc of it.

[Cathy]

"Decrease stats of Attack Rate / Defense Rate Upgrade skills"

well, sixth sense just went out the window

and it looks like this is mainly gonna make fa more op(increaseing their skill dmg and their base dmg), and add more dmg for already high base crit fs's.

as an fb, i would like to see the 3 buffs turned into 1 or w/e bc they do take up 3 buff slots and its just annoying getting heal or somethin and losing a blade skill bc of it.

We have no way to know if any class will be overpowered, underpowered, etc.

And while defense rate on upgrade skills might be lowered, it is very possible that we'll have higher survival with the new "Block" feature.

We won't have any real insight for at least a couple more months when this stuff is implemented in the official KO server.

I highly reccomend reading the actual thread on EU forums: http://forum.cabalonline.com/showthread.php?234574-EP10-Cabal-The-Next-Update

because overall the people in EU are far more intelligent in their speculation than NA players...

[SemiAutoMatic]

because overall the people in EU are far more intelligent in their speculation than NA players...

Brb, loling.















K back, ty Cathy baby. Continue.

[Cathy]

Brb, loling.















K back, ty Cathy baby. Continue.

lol its true

Cronic is a prime example of this :P

[SemiAutoMatic]

lol its true

Cronic is a prime example of this :P

A! Don't blame the weed, bro. It's the ... umm.....

Damn, it is the weed.





*bong rips*

[Cathy]

A! Don't blame the weed, bro. It's the ... umm.....

Damn, it is the weed.





*bong rips*

Europeans smoke weed more than Americans do

that has no correlation to how smart people are ~_~

[SemiAutoMatic]

Europeans smoke weed more than Americans do

that has no correlation to how smart people are ~_~
Well what Cronic are you talking about?
& Idk I smoke alottt of weed.

[Cathy]

Well what Cronic are you talking about?
& Idk I smoke alottt of weed.

This person


"Decrease stats of Attack Rate / Defense Rate Upgrade skills"

well, sixth sense just went out the window

and it looks like this is mainly gonna make fa more op(increaseing their skill dmg and their base dmg), and add more dmg for already high base crit fs's.

as an fb, i would like to see the 3 buffs turned into 1 or w/e bc they do take up 3 buff slots and its just annoying getting heal or somethin and losing a blade skill bc of it.

[SemiAutoMatic]

Ok so it's not the weed.

Aiight word then.

Idk about you but I'm keeping sixth sense.

[Deathlymonkey]

5410

[ROFLwiz]

So now that the defense formula in EP10 will that mean we have more or less defense??? confuzed

[Cathy]

So now that the defense formula in EP10 will that mean we have more or less defense??? confuzed

I assume we have more defense. But so would all bosses.

http://mrwormy.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/20120905_ep10_boss_stats_change.png

[TheBiggestNoobOnTheServer]

wth whats up with those high att and deff.

[Nozomi]

I assume we have more defense. But so would all bosses.

http://mrwormy.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/20120905_ep10_boss_stats_change.png

I really hope eod3 will be as hard as it was ft2 when it came out for the first time.

[CookieWiz]

i am pretty sure wiz and fa r gonna pwn after this update XD

[Hikushiru]

i am pretty sure wiz and fa r gonna pwn after this update XD

Probably. Lol.

[infoleather]

But in any case, updates to NA soon, which gives us time to continue to complain about the barramundi updates Austrian track.

[cronic21]

This person

im failin to see where my post had "stupid" in it. plz enlighten me, concidering ur post mainly talked about fa and fs, and i said looks like they gettin more op attacks(just as many others have here). and if def rate upgrade skill is being lowered, and attack rate, depending on how much, ppl may get rid of it as an upgrade.

ur post was old from the start to me, i keep up-to-date with other cabals, mrwormys, interviews with the develpoers, etc. alrdy understand the dif stances etc. ur pt is?

[Cathy]

im failin to see where my post had "stupid" in it. plz enlighten me, concidering ur post mainly talked about fa and fs, and i said looks like they gettin more op attacks(just as many others have here). and if def rate upgrade skill is being lowered, and attack rate, depending on how much, ppl may get rid of it as an upgrade.

ur post was old from the start to me, i keep up-to-date with other cabals, mrwormys, interviews with the develpoers, etc. alrdy understand the dif stances etc. ur pt is?

What makes you think that they'll ONLY buff up FA and FS when they're only a couple weeks into "testing" phase

[Deathlymonkey]

im failin to see where my post had "stupid" in it. plz enlighten me, concidering ur post mainly talked about fa and fs, and i said looks like they gettin more op attacks(just as many others have here). and if def rate upgrade skill is being lowered, and attack rate, depending on how much, ppl may get rid of it as an upgrade.

ur post was old from the start to me, i keep up-to-date with other cabals, mrwormys, interviews with the develpoers, etc. alrdy understand the dif stances etc. ur pt is?

And what would people change the def rate skill for? MP? BRB lol'ing.

[cronic21]

And what would people change the def rate skill for? MP? BRB lol'ing.

as i said, depending how much they decrease each. guess u dont see options.


What makes you think that they'll ONLY buff up FA and FS when they're only a couple weeks into "testing" phase

i also talked about fb buffs in my 1st response? they was no where in ur posts? but im only thinkin fa fs? hmm.. if ur post is mainly about fa/fs, obviously u can expect to get responses about fa/fs....thats kinda common sense. now when they're further along in testing and there is posts about other classes, u can then expect comments about other classes.

back on topic, seein that pic wit the fs vs ic1 boss makes me think the pve will basically be the same, and that the whole def dmg change is mainly just gonna effect pvp.

[godafe]

back on topic, seein that pic wit the fs vs ic1 boss makes me think the pve will basically be the same, and that the whole def dmg change is mainly just gonna effect pvp.

A Lv 178 FS in BM3 hitting a critical and doing 7K damage on Faello is normal today? I think its low, but thats my impression.

[cronic21]

A Lv 178 FS in BM3 hitting a critical and doing 7K damage on Faello is normal today? I think its low, but thats my impression.

i agree, its low but we also dont know his amp/cd or bm3 stage, and the 114 wa hittin basically 1.5 sounds normal based on lvl (never played a wa myself so idk). my pt was we get increased def, mobs get increased def, end result is the same.. and the increase is meant for pvp.

[Cathy]

as i said, depending how much they decrease each. guess u dont see options.



i also talked about fb buffs in my 1st response? they was no where in ur posts? but im only thinkin fa fs? hmm.. if ur post is mainly about fa/fs, obviously u can expect to get responses about fa/fs....thats kinda common sense. now when they're further along in testing and there is posts about other classes, u can then expect comments about other classes.

back on topic, seein that pic wit the fs vs ic1 boss makes me think the pve will basically be the same, and that the whole def dmg change is mainly just gonna effect pvp.


i agree, its low but we also dont know his amp/cd or bm3 stage, and the 114 wa hittin basically 1.5 sounds normal based on lvl (never played a wa myself so idk). my pt was we get increased def, mobs get increased def, end result is the same.. and the increase is meant for pvp.

1. You can't say FA or FS will be op just because they have higher attack in bm now. That's just "speculation" because you have no comparison point to the other classes, and being OP is relative. Your average EU player wouldn't jump to a conclusion like that because they're smarter than that.

2. Even if defense rate was lower on sixth sense, why would you bother to remove it? So you can have even LESS def rate? THAT makes sense.
"It's like when I want some bread, I won't settle for half a loaf. Instead, I will have a muffin made of broken glass." - Stephen Colbert

3. FS with 2200 attack hitting only 7k on ic1 first boss? We might not know his attack or amp but any FS with 40+ amp and 130+ cd (these are extremely low stats for an FS) who has 2200 attack would be hitting at least 20k on ic1 first boss, by today's damage equation.

[jimbo]

It does sound strange at first, but when you think about how they're changing up hit/miss along with how defense is factored in, I'm sure the 6 classes won't be really unbalanced. I think It'll just be a slight inconvenience at first to get used to.

It's basically a giant update on defensive stats, considering how our offensive stats have gotten so high.

I am personally looking forward to seeing the new Block/Miss. BL's and FB's could become "evasion tanks" instead of just pure hp/def tanks. (Lightning in FF13 was an awesome evasion tank as a sentinel, in case anybody played it :>)



Until we have details we can only speculate which class (if any) would be op. It might be that 1 INT = 0.002 resist rate, or it might be more.

But it seems like:

WA/FS with str will get higher "damage reduction" a new stat.

FA/WI with int will get various "resistances" the kinds we already have like resist rate/cd/stun/down/kb

BL/FB with dex will get high "block" a new stat.
sounds like their trying to be more realistic with the classes cause fb and bl move realy fast so its will be hard to hit them xD and sense fs and wa were armor dmg want bother them much as it used to


By the time episode 10 hits i'll call it quits...
nooooooooooooooooooo

[ROFLwiz]

im failin to see where my post had "stupid" in it. plz enlighten me, concidering ur post mainly talked about fa and fs, and i said looks like they gettin more op attacks(just as many others have here). and if def rate upgrade skill is being lowered, and attack rate, depending on how much, ppl may get rid of it as an upgrade.

ur post was old from the start to me, i keep up-to-date with other cabals, mrwormys, interviews with the develpoers, etc. alrdy understand the dif stances etc. ur pt is?

You said stupid right there!

[cronic21]

1.That's just "speculation" because you have no comparison point to the other classes

if not meant for ppl to speculate, wat was the pt in this thread with unfinished information? if u dont want speculations, wait till all information, of all classes is out to post. if u gonna post about fa/fs, expect feedback about fa/fs, welcome to common sense 101. thats kinda wat discuss means, and a convo, or a debate etc. all involves "giving" AND "listening" to other peoples opinions. but u cathy (named cathy but rly a male...odd to say the least...) only know how to talk. i forgot u know all and ur way is the only way, ill keep that in mind next time.

if def rate skill goes from 600 to say 100, i for one will remove the skill, u keep chewin ur muffins.

[i sell stuff]

2. Even if defense rate was lower on sixth sense, why would you bother to remove it? So you can have even LESS def rate? THAT makes sense.
"It's like when I want some bread, I won't settle for half a loaf. Instead, I will have a muffin made of broken glass." - Stephen Colbert


I think what he was getting at was that if the def rate so crappy, he should remove it to get something better. Like your loaf. If you were offered half a loaf, but had a better deal where you got something equivalent to that half loaf and then some. You would take, most likely, the latter.

In cabal the only alt i can think of is MP as someone mentioned, which is pretty useful for those who arent mf proof, or arent willing to grind ap for MP rune.

my 2 'scents'. sorry if you think they stink xD.

[Cathy]

I think what he was getting at was that if the def rate so crappy, he should remove it to get something better. Like your loaf. If you were offered half a loaf, but had a better deal where you got something equivalent to that half loaf and then some. You would take, most likely, the latter.

In cabal the only alt i can think of is MP as someone mentioned, which is pretty useful for those who arent mf proof, or arent willing to grind ap for MP rune.

my 2 'scents'. sorry if you think they stink xD.

I think most people wouldn't get MP

I'd rather lose 500 def rate than to delete my sixth sense and lose 700 def rate

[godafe]

New Upgrade Skills values! (http://mrwormy.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/20120907_ep10_upgrade_skills.png)

Not a total lose, IMO. I think that with the new block/miss system, it will be balanced. Question is if equipment, runes and etc will be affected by this change.

[cronic21]

New Upgrade Skills values! (http://mrwormy.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/20120907_ep10_upgrade_skills.png)

Not a total lose, IMO. I think that with the new block/miss system, it will be balanced. Question is if equipment, runes and etc will be affected by this change.

thats not bad at all

[ROFLwiz]

Seems likes def rate will still be the best for your last slot and the extra def makes up for it

[Cang Le]

bump

[Cathy]

A nice update on ep 10 info for those who haven't seen it o.o there's a lot of details about skill changes; pretty radical changes

http://mrwormy.wordpress.com/2012/10/18/kr-ep10-oct-17th-18th-2012-patch-notes/

These are the ones I found most interesting:

■ Changes
1. Leveling skill will consumed 3 skill points (fixed amount)

2. Skill-related changes
The skill amp. will be changed to raise based on the skill level (with constant ratio)
Cooldown of skills is fixed, regardless of skill level

So theres basically no point in keeping skills low level now; lv.20 on everything will be best, with the only restriction being how many skill points are available... dif cooldowns might force some of us to change our combos as well.

Remove “Critical Rate Increase” in existing attack skills
Adjust “Critical Rate Increase” and “Critical Damage Increase” of existing skills
Existing Skills with chance to “Stun” opponent are changed, the Stun Chance will be depended on skill level
Remove the feature that saving the amount of consumed MP when using combo
Remove the feature that increase the MP for casting skills in Battle Modes
Remove the feature that increasing the Attack Rate of skills based on skill level
When debuff skill failed, the cooldown of that debuff skill will be reduced to 50% (for the next cast of that debuff skill)
Root being even more op!

4. New skills are added

Magic Control
Class: Wizard
Description: Self-buff Magic Attack
Rank: Regular

Spirit Shield
Class: Wizard
Description: Summon the Shield that absorbs damages
Rank: Completer

Quick Move
Class: Force Archer
Description: Temporary increasing moving speed of Force Archer to dodge incoming attacks
Rank: Completer

Reflect Shield
Class: Force Shielder
Description: Astral Shield reflects damage back to attackers
Rank: Completer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iEaCAI4bFNg

I think all of these look pretty cool; with the downside being having to redo all your skill levels o.o

[Tenrai]

Instant Immunity
Remove from Blader
The JOKES!!! RIP bladers, you are now prey to knockdown, stun, down... REROLL NOW YOU BLADERS!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzl4rAzQcRg

[SUPERSAYIAN]

Instant Immunity
Remove from Blader
The JOKES!!! RIP bladers, you are now prey to knockdown, stun, down... REROLL NOW YOU BLADERS!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zzl4rAzQcRg

Intuition now acts like instant immunity but with added advantages.

[Tenrai]

they need to make curse dodge to be a solo buff without party requirement and adjust its cool down to 15 seconds just for this class to survive art of curse.

[CheeseForMe]

And so wi/fa epic now??? resist up the ass
This is exactly what went thru my mind. Wiz/Fa are going to be so broken...

[Aborame]

actually wat i think about is nothing is changing
i mean :
1- FS still got the huge defensive stuff plus extra dmg ( add more att is better base dmg so nice)
2- WA got same as old with tankin etc well inc the range of BM2 is kinda cool for WAs and the CR and CD add in bloody is kinda nice so WA is gettin better.
3- WI gets a magic att skill finally!! but a buff like SS hmmm kinda nice for the char got the lowest def but in wars they r more op?
4- BL finally gets a place in wars with the more dmg stuff and i think mergin int and immunity in 1 buff is good
5- FA i think its gettin op its the best dps so far add to it the new speedy move to dodge plus the most powerful BM !
6- FB idt there is a change they just give it a chance to get att buffs coz if u think abt it the astral wepon gives same stats as the 2 att bufs they wont be able to use! so its the same but in another way it gives em more powerful BM1 since it deletes the 3 buffs now it will delete only 1 buff.

i really dnt like the fact that using special buffs consume SP we are already dry of SP all the time :(
So in General the patch changes nothing actually but it make ppl think abt the way to build their chars becoz of the new block, hit bla bla bla
its now more based on building than gears and i really like that

its my point of view and we still short of info so we cant judge yet

[CheeseForMe]

Nothing is changing lol...? Did you actually read the patch notes? Wiz/FA are gonna be sheting on people all day especially in war. They already get the highest scores i can only imagine what it'll be like after this patch.

[Aborame]

Nothing is changing lol...? Did you actually read the patch notes? Wiz/FA are gonna be sheting on people all day especially in war. They already get the highest scores i can only imagine what it'll be like after this patch.

that means nothing is gonna change coz they will keep ruling :D
actually if u looks abt it from another point of view u will c that after all this bla bla bla things they r doing and we keep discussing and bla bla bla
u will find out that oh its kinda the same crap as usual

if they wanted to really fix the chars then they should balance them at op gears not like oh FA BM3 is OP oh okay lets add some att
hmmm FS got alot of def no lets give em more def and not only that give em dmg reduction Oo
for FB wat changed? hmmm nothing? its the same buffs but they replaced 2 buffs by astral wepon which give em space for more buffs
same goes for other chars i can't remember every thing in the patch notes but any way
if they really wanted to fix the chars then the should keep FS and FA in their place or may be add few att for FS since it lack of att
for WI att buff isnt bad but the buff like SS? ok this is messing up
for WA kinda nothing change but the add in cr-cd in blody spirit ok now WAs can stop complaining abt no cr-cd gain from any thing but did that make em equal to other chars?
in over all its the same brah
think abt it

i am FS btw and armored chars r #1 for me martial r #2 but i like to be fair :P

[xTrav]

I prefer cabal over cabal 2 and Im not quite sure how I feel about this update. It seems like it's a huge deal lol. But from what I read I guess once your hp is getting lower and lower it makes it harder to get hit? So it might be a little easier to survive especially while grinding and in the harder dungeons for the classes that lack defense. Could be a hit or miss update.

[CheeseForMe]

that means nothing is gonna change coz they will keep ruling :D
actually if u looks abt it from another point of view u will c that after all this bla bla bla things they r doing and we keep discussing and bla bla bla
u will find out that oh its kinda the same crap as usual

if they wanted to really fix the chars then they should balance them at op gears not like oh FA BM3 is OP oh okay lets add some att
hmmm FS got alot of def no lets give em more def and not only that give em dmg reduction Oo
for FB wat changed? hmmm nothing? its the same buffs but they replaced 2 buffs by astral wepon which give em space for more buffs
same goes for other chars i can't remember every thing in the patch notes but any way
if they really wanted to fix the chars then the should keep FS and FA in their place or may be add few att for FS since it lack of att
for WI att buff isnt bad but the buff like SS? ok this is messing up
for WA kinda nothing change but the add in cr-cd in blody spirit ok now WAs can stop complaining abt no cr-cd gain from any thing but did that make em equal to other chars?
in over all its the same brah
think abt it

i am FS btw and armored chars r #1 for me martial r #2 but i like to be fair :P

I get what you're saying now.. I thougth you ment something else. Like i thought you ment the buffs for archer + wiz were minor or nothing. But ic what you mean now. I agree with what you're saying.

I really don't understand what they're trying to accomplish here? It's almost like they're purposely unbalancing the game. I wonder what for... hmmm... lol cough.. cough.. CABAL2 JK. Idk i'm so shaken up by the fact that FA/WIZ got a buff that dramatic when they have the best DPS in the game and one of the strongest.

FB better get a decent buff to keep up with this bull shait... cause otherwise i can't see FB doing much except waiting for debuffs in order to be effective. What FB had over other classes was the free CR/Debuffs and now WA is also getting free CR. Wiz/FA getting resist % enervation/stun ect.. ect..

I'm about to go back on my Wiz if that's the case HAHAHAHA FAK IT!

[CheeseForMe]

I prefer cabal over cabal 2 and Im not quite sure how I feel about this update. It seems like it's a huge deal lol. But from what I read I guess once your hp is getting lower and lower it makes it harder to get hit? So it might be a little easier to survive especially while grinding and in the harder dungeons for the classes that lack defense. Could be a hit or miss update.

Yah me too... CABAL2 looks so... hmm... normal? It's like any other MMORPG. Cabal is a special game and there is no other like it.

[Cathy]

I get what you're saying now.. I thougth you ment something else. Like i thought you ment the buffs for archer + wiz were minor or nothing. But ic what you mean now. I agree with what you're saying.

I really don't understand what they're trying to accomplish here? It's almost like they're purposely unbalancing the game. I wonder what for... hmmm... lol cough.. cough.. CABAL2 JK. Idk i'm so shaken up by the fact that FA/WIZ got a buff that dramatic when they have the best DPS in the game and one of the strongest.

FB better get a decent buff to keep up with this bull shait... cause otherwise i can't see FB doing much except waiting for debuffs in order to be effective. What FB had over other classes was the free CR/Debuffs and now WA is also getting free CR. Wiz/FA getting resist % enervation/stun ect.. ect..

I'm about to go back on my Wiz if that's the case HAHAHAHA FAK IT!

The whole point of FB if you read the class descriptions is "to neutralize the force attack of other classes" which is basically debuffing instead of buffing.

So If an FB uses Hard luck and Art of Chaos, that's really the same thing as a +10 rate, +20 cd, +50 amp buff. So Idk why you're complaining... FB already has an amazing pve bm with anywhere between 75-100 rate depending on how you do your synergies.

I don't think anybody can really make a good case that FB is underpowered or weaker than other classes.

And I wouldn't argue that this update is "unbalancing" the game. Everyone always says the same thing when they see some small bit of info they don't like in patch notes and jump to conclusions (I remember how every class was complaining about how other class's bm3 looked better back in february).

[HeatEND]

art of curse is not a -50% resist amp buff... its a mistranslation, unless i forgot how to speak korean. its -50% resistance to down, knockback, stun, and movement. sorry to break it to the fb guys.

[CheeseForMe]

The whole point of FB if you read the class descriptions is "to neutralize the force attack of other classes" which is basically debuffing instead of buffing.

So If an FB uses Hard luck and Art of Chaos, that's really the same thing as a +10 rate, +20 cd, +50 amp buff. So Idk why you're complaining... FB already has an amazing pve bm with anywhere between 75-100 rate depending on how you do your synergies.

I don't think anybody can really make a good case that FB is underpowered or weaker than other classes.

And I wouldn't argue that this update is "unbalancing" the game. Everyone always says the same thing when they see some small bit of info they don't like in patch notes and jump to conclusions (I remember how every class was complaining about how other class's bm3 looked better back in february). OH REALLY? SO THATS WHAT FB'S DO THANKS FOR THE WAKE UP CALL. Here i thought that fb job was to buff everyone. FB aren't UP? haha! get out of here dude.... FB with debuff = a WA. FB depends on gear + debuffs. Put any fb against any wa with same gear and i bet my money that a wa will stomp a FB. If the reason why im complaining isn't obvious enough already then i really don't know what else to tell you. FA are balanced, there was no need to give them another buff. It's really that simple.

You wouldn't argue that this update is unbalancing the game really? I doubt there is a free to play online game atm that is balanced. The closest game i ever saw to balanced was Starcraft:Broodwar and it took them 10 years to manage that. This game is no where near balanced.

Ive seen plenty of great points on how FB are UP compared to other classes. Search bar may come in handy. Not just based off what people say but from experience as well(Ive played all classes over lvl 120)so im not talking out of my arse. You play a WA with junk gear and you can basically DUNG fairly easy, then you try FB and you have to do extra work to get the same results. Same applys to pvp/war.

I really don't see how you can say that FB isn't UP compared to the rest of the classes, i really don't... Not sure if your trolling or what.

[Aborame]

good that u got my point :D
but well i cant make my final judge coz until now we dnt know all the new buffs changes as example how crushing blade<3 will be :D or mortal bane or even AOD talkin abt FS since am one same goes for other chars buffs and we also dnt know that ratio of resists - hit - block - bla bla bla from stats
thes stuff will make the final judge so we just have to w8 and c wat happens

but i really hate the SP consume thingy :(

[Cathy]

OH REALLY? SO THATS WHAT FB'S DO THANKS FOR THE WAKE UP CALL. Here i thought that fb job was to buff everyone. FB aren't UP? haha! get out of here dude.... FB with debuff = a WA. FB depends on gear + debuffs. Put any fb against any wa with same gear and i bet my money that a wa will stomp a FB. If the reason why im complaining isn't obvious enough already then i really don't know what else to tell you. FA are balanced, there was no need to give them another buff. It's really that simple.

You wouldn't argue that this update is unbalancing the game really? I doubt there is a free to play online game atm that is balanced. The closest game i ever saw to balanced was Starcraft:Broodwar and it took them 10 years to manage that. This game is no where near balanced.

Ive seen plenty of great points on how FB are UP compared to other classes. Search bar may come in handy. Not just based off what people say but from experience as well(Ive played all classes over lvl 120)so im not talking out of my arse. You play a WA with junk gear and you can basically DUNG fairly easy, then you try FB and you have to do extra work to get the same results. Same applys to pvp/war.

I really don't see how you can say that FB isn't UP compared to the rest of the classes, i really don't... Not sure if your trolling or what.

Requiring skill isn't the same as requiring gear

An FB can be amazing with no gear, as long as you know how to play it right

You can't say that about all the other classes; a lot of other classes are gonna need way more gear to compete.

More specific examples:

Any 170 FB will have tons of crit rate just from buffs, whereas a BL/WI/WA will have crap rate unless they're well geared.

Any low defense/hp FB can tank by going BM1, this isn't true for WI/FA.

Any 130 FB will be able to outcompete other 130's BM3 because of the rate synergies; this comes back to crit rate, the most important stat.

Any FB can root a target and run out of range to survive; conversely, not just anybody can tank the 20 second duration of root, you need really good gear for that.

Any FB can carry for their nation in war just by rooting the strongest enemy players and keeping those specific people from attacking your nation's groups. an FB rooting them to stall for 20 seconds, is as simple as pressing a button, no gear required. Whereas other classes would actually have to kill them (this actually requires decent stats).

If you find FB needs more gear than the other classes to be decent: then you are simply not playing your class correctly.

[CheeseForMe]

Requiring skill isn't the same as requiring gear

An FB can be amazing with no gear, as long as you know how to play it right

You can't say that about all the other classes; a lot of other classes are gonna need way more gear to compete.

More specific examples:

Any 170 FB will have tons of crit rate just from buffs, whereas a BL/WI/WA will have crap rate unless they're well geared.

Any low defense/hp FB can tank by going BM1, this isn't true for WI/FA.

Any 130 FB will be able to outcompete other 130's BM3 because of the rate synergies; this comes back to crit rate, the most important stat.

Any FB can root a target and run out of range to survive; conversely, not just anybody can tank the 20 second duration of root, you need really good gear for that.

Any FB can carry for their nation in war just by rooting the strongest enemy players and keeping those specific people from attacking your nation's groups. an FB rooting them to stall for 20 seconds, is as simple as pressing a button, no gear required. Whereas other classes would actually have to kill them (this actually requires decent stats).

If you find FB needs more gear than the other classes to be decent: then you are simply not playing your class correctly. i strongly disagree. Wheres the fun in rooting and watching? Your basically saying if you root = good player.

FB cant "tank" with bm1 lolllll. What are you talking about. I can use bm1/2 or bm1/3 and still can't tank the way you say haha. I dont know where you're getting that from. Fb needs a decent set of gear to do damage or take it. Their defence is a joke.Wiz/Fa can sit in the back and just combo. They dont need gear for that. If by some chance they get targeted all you have to do is dash/side step. Be bit more realistic... Fb in the other hand has to get within melee range to do damage. If your going to war to just sit back and root people then you really shoudn't be there cause it's a slot for someone who's actually going to contribute to the war.

Root is not going to win you a war man... You're exaggerating quite a bit now. Only class i can see you rooting to win a fight is wa/bladder and thats if they dont have immunity on. Thats assuming all the good players are wa/bladders which they aren't. In fact most are FA/WI.

Ive always dealt with having terrible gear as a fb. I can tell you this much... if you wanna last longer then 2-3 hits in the middle of a battle @ war then you best have some decent gear cause you WILL get dropped. Especially now that people are walking around with +15 weapons.

I'll admit that i can ALWAYS(unless ofc im rooted) get away when im being bursted down just cause of root but running all the time isn't fun at all and this is why i'm complaining.It isn't fun for me to go into a fight and only get 1 hit or MAYBE 2 then have to run away with little to no HP. No one in this game needs a buff more than a FB. And FA/WIZ/WA MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT NEED A BUFF.

All you need to do is look at the score board after war to see which class is mainly at the top. That says enough. It's always FB at bot of list unless they are wondering around with +10-+15. So please don't tell me that FB is balanced cause the odds are against you. This has been discussed year after year after year since i started which is about 3 years of CABAL.

I know you're a smart person and i know that you are well experienced but i have 3 years on my sleeves of FB gameplay and i can tell you that you're wrong on this one. FB takes twice as much effort to play as any other class and thats what makes them so fun. I don't care if its the way it is now, thats fine. BUT the moment i saw these patch notes it was frustrating..

Anyways.. enough of this. It wont get anywhere and i still don't even know if those are the final patch notes. For all i know they might change it last minute, either way i'm still going play FB and im still going to play CABAL.

[Cathy]

I'm quite experienced in playing FB too. And I can assure you nothing I said is wrong.


i strongly disagree. Wheres the fun in rooting and watching? Your basically saying if you root = good player.

If you can make an enemy unmovable, then you can make them break combo. If you can make them break combo, then you can make them fall down. There's 3-4 seconds of free hits right there.

FB cant "tank" with bm1 lolllll. What are you talking about. I can use bm1/2 or bm1/3 and still can't tank the way you say haha. I dont know where you're getting that from. Fb needs a decent set of gear to do damage or take it. Their defence is a joke.

Any lv.170+ FB will have 8k+ HP in bm1. Even a 140 should be pushing 7k.

Wiz/Fa can sit in the back and just combo. They dont need gear for that. If by some chance they get targeted all you have to do is dash/side step. Be bit more realistic... Fb in the other hand has to get within melee range to do damage. If your going to war to just sit back and root people then you really shoudn't be there cause it's a slot for someone who's actually going to contribute to the war.

Root is not going to win you a war man...

You clearly aren't experienced; or you just are not good in n.war. How does an enemy nation win when all their best players cannot move for half the war? You have a full 60 seconds of straight root, with only a 25 second gap before you can throw a 4th one for your 80 seconds of root.

You're exaggerating quite a bit now. Only class i can see you rooting to win a fight is wa/bladder and thats if they dont have immunity on. Thats assuming all the good players are wa/bladders which they aren't. In fact most are FA/WI.

Ive always dealt with having terrible gear as a fb. I can tell you this much... if you wanna last longer then 2-3 hits in the middle of a battle @ war then you best have some decent gear cause you WILL get dropped. Especially now that people are walking around with +15 weapons.

an FB dealing 4k noncrits with 12k crits; with 95% rate

is as good as:

an FA dealing 5k noncrits with 20k crits; with 65% rate

Without Trans buff; FB dps matches or is greater than FA's

I'll admit that i can ALWAYS(unless ofc im rooted) get away when im being bursted down just cause of root but running all the time isn't fun at all and this is why i'm complaining.It isn't fun for me to go into a fight and only get 1 hit or MAYBE 2 then have to run away with little to no HP. No one in this game needs a buff more than a FB. And FA/WIZ/WA MOST CERTAINLY DO NOT NEED A BUFF.

All you need to do is look at the score board after war to see which class is mainly at the top. That says enough.

Scoring high isn't quite the same as winning a war; you can ask any t5 caps who relog for bm3 about that. Different people have different priorities, but my priority is getting the Nation's score up to win, not my own score.

It's always FB at bot of list unless they are wondering around with +10-+15. So please don't tell me that FB is balanced cause the odds are against you. This has been discussed year after year after year since i started which is about 3 years of CABAL.

I know you're a smart person and i know that you are well experienced but i have 3 years on my sleeves of FB gameplay and i can tell you that you're wrong on this one. FB takes twice as much effort to play as any other class and thats what makes them so fun. I don't care if its the way it is now, thats fine. BUT the moment i saw these patch notes it was frustrating..

Anyways.. enough of this. It wont get anywhere and i still don't even know if those are the final patch notes. For all i know they might change it last minute, either way i'm still going play FB and im still going to play CABAL.

Also: I'm pretty sure any experienced player who goes to t5 often and does decently, and runs a lot of party dungeons (MO/FT2) will tell you FB is not under-powered. You don't even have to play FB to have an understanding of the class; there's only 6 classes total. You should know all of them pretty well just by fighting with them, against them, and dungeoning with them.

[CheeseForMe]

I'm quite experienced in playing FB too. And I can assure you nothing I said is wrong.



Also: I'm pretty sure any experienced player who goes to t5 often and does decently, and runs a lot of party dungeons (MO/FT2) will tell you FB is not under-powered. You don't even have to play FB to have an understanding of the class; there's only 6 classes total. You should know all of them pretty well just by fighting with them, against them, and dungeoning with them.
lol.... way over my head.

Seems like its agree to disagree.

[CheeseForMe]

For the record those stats are totally off. 95% rate haha... OKay.. you're going to get 95% rate with bad gear. Ridiculous... I have no idea where you come up with these numbers.

[Cathy]

For the record those stats are totally off. 95% rate haha... OKay.. you're going to get 95% rate with bad gear. Ridiculous... I have no idea where you come up with these numbers.

05% - Base
03% - Kred
15% - Merg
15% - Lightning Blade
10% - Ice Blade
10% - Fire Blade

Therefore any FB can reach 58 rate just by having Merg and Kred; I will consider this to be reasonable to have

I understand 8 max rate can be difficult to get: so I will keep it to 55. Anybody can get 2 max rate on aop5 (only about 20mil), and 3 max rate from rune (80mil). I will consider these to be reasonable to have.

I do not consider Merg, Kred, a 20mil amulet, and a 80mil rune to be difficult to get. I will assume people with "bad" gear can obtain these 4 things. I will not take 7 rate weapons or helms, any other rings, or pets into account

55% Rate

+10% Hard Luck
+15% Increase Critical
+07% Increase Critical
+08% Increase Critical

This is 95% Rate.

Nothing I have said is "off." You are simply looking at things from a "the grass is always greener" type of view. You play FB most so you think it's weak because you're jealous of what other classes can do that an FB can't; but that doesn't mean FB is weaker than the other classes.

[CheeseForMe]

I must be broke then.

For a min. i thought we were talking about a gearless FB but i guess we jumped into a geared FB at some point.

[Cathy]

I must be broke then.

For a min. i thought we were talking about a gearless FB but i guess we jumped into a geared FB at some point.

If you want a gearless FB with no max rate at all, then you're just gonna have 50 + 40, instead of 55 + 45. so 90% Crit Rate total.

Any FB can hit 50 rate by using just one Ring of Luck +1. I will consider that very easy to get :)

In the example I gave you can easily just say the FB has 90% rate, but any other class who has only 50% rate will still do worse. I said an FA would have 65 rate; that's only assuming they get 5 max from gear, because they get 10 on synergies. If they had 0 from gear they'd have 50+10.

an FB dealing 4k noncrits with 12k crits; with 90% rate

is as good as:

an FA dealing 5k noncrits with 20k crits; with 60% rate

Without Trans buff; FB dps matches or is greater than FA's

No matter how you put it, FB has godly rate just by being FB.

[CheeseForMe]

If you want a gearless FB with no max rate at all, then you're just gonna have 50 + 40, instead of 55 + 45. so 90% Crit Rate total.

Any FB can hit 50 rate by using just one Ring of Luck +1. I will consider that very easy to get :)

In the example I gave you can easily just say the FB has 90% rate, but any other class who has only 50% rate will still do worse. I said an FA would have 65 rate; that's only assuming they get 5 max from gear, because they get 10 on synergies. If they had 0 from gear they'd have 50+10.

an FB dealing 4k noncrits with 12k crits; with 90% rate

is as good as:

an FA dealing 5k noncrits with 20k crits; with 60% rate

Without Trans buff; FB dps matches or is greater than FA's

No matter how you put it, FB has godly rate just by being FB.

Yup i agree. That's what made FB special and how he compensated for the lack of survivability. But now WA is getting natural CR also.

[Cathy]

Yup i agree. That's what made FB special and how he compensated for the lack of survivability. But now WA is getting natural CR also.

And now FB is getting a +50 amp buff also.

[CheeseForMe]

Yup, what is it 15 secs? INT counters amp now.

[Cathy]

Yup, what is it 15 secs? INT counters amp now.

That just means WA's will have even 50 less than FB :)

It's not like amp resist only applies when an FB is hitting the target.

[CandiCoatted]

That just means WA's will have even 50 less than FB :)

It's not like amp resist only applies when an FB is hitting the target.

Miss Cathy we need a new duo.... Manticore next?!!!

[Deathlymonkey]

Thats old stuff cass people duo kimzark and trio minisha now ;o

[Cathy]

Miss Cathy we need a new duo.... Manticore next?!!!

hi o.o

[Berserk_Fury]

And now FB is getting a +50 amp buff also.

Wait what? Where'd you read that?

[joshtheboss]

Yup i agree. That's what made FB special and how he compensated for the lack of survivability. But now WA is getting natural CR also.

Where did everyone read that WA is getting natural CR? I didn't see that anywhere.

[Cathy]

Where did everyone read that WA is getting natural CR? I didn't see that anywhere.

Wa's are not getting anymore crit rate

[Aborame]

1st i agree with cathy FB isnt underpowered the really underpowered char atm is BL
BL is kinda useless until it have epic gears now adays not the best pve char any more like it used to be
and btw if u rank the chars by stats then
att : WA-WI-FA-BL-FB-FS
def : FS-WA-BL-FB-FA-WI
HP : WA-BL-FS-FB-FA-WI
rates : BL-WI-FB-FA-WA-FS
CR : FB-FS-FA-any other chars
CD : FS-FB-any other char

those r the basics but FBs got a really good dps as cathy said almost like FA
if u talkin abt other classes buffs like as example talkin abt the strongest buffs here : WAs bloody spirit and fury shout and FS mortal Bane also FA dmg buff i dnt remember its name been along time since i played with a FA
ur debuffs cover that better as example : u got enervation with -12 lvl that affect the opp char/mob alot in over all stats - MF witch takes 1.4k MP actually 1.6k MP if u use it with enervation only WI wont have problem with it - hard luck that decrease resists and if the opp char/mob got no resists it add to ur stats! - root witch is kinda infinity and stick every one in its place add to that ur skills got (- attack / rates etc) so u r not underpowered ok now u gonna say FS's AOD outside war any char with 1k att / 50 amp / 140% cd can break AOD easly didnt mention BM3 tho witch makes AOD almost useless so wat else u got in mind? BL's Int? just BM1 and combo lol so no man FB is never underpowered but i consider 1 of the best classes

BL is the char that really need to equal other coz it lost its place now as example if u run a pro dung now adays u ask for a WA - WI - FS - FB mostly
FA some times if its avaliable but super rare that u ask for a BL coz atm WA dps is almost like BL plus fury

so in my opinion BL is the class u need to argue abt not any other coz the others r good enough but tbh i really dnt like the FS DPS coz its the lamest (no crits u sux)
u may be have big experience as u say but its useless when u dnt look at ur char big advantages and just look at the negative side every char got a negative side and every char got its unique abilities.

[Cathy]

1st i agree with cathy FB isnt underpowered the really underpowered char atm is BL
BL is kinda useless until it have epic gears now adays not the best pve char any more like it used to be
and btw if u rank the chars by stats then
att : WA-WI-FA-BL-FB-FS
def : FS-WA-FB-FA-BL-WI
HP : WA-BL-FS-FB-FA-WI
rates : BL-WI-FB-FA-WA-FS
CR : FB-FS-FA-any other chars
CD : FS-FB-any other char

those r the basics but FBs got a really good dps as cathy said almost like FA
if u talkin abt other classes buffs like as example talkin abt the strongest buffs here : WAs bloody spirit and fury shout and FS mortal Bane also FA dmg buff i dnt remember its name been along time since i played with a FA
ur debuffs cover that better as example : u got enervation with -12 lvl that affect the opp char/mob alot in over all stats - MF witch takes 1.4k MP actually 1.6k MP if u use it with enervation only WI wont have problem with it - hard luck that decrease resists and if the opp char/mob got no resists it add to ur stats! - root witch is kinda infinity and stick every one in its place add to that ur skills got (- attack / rates etc) so u r not underpowered ok now u gonna say FS's AOD outside war any char with 1k att / 50 amp / 140% cd can break AOD easly didnt mention BM3 tho witch makes AOD almost useless so wat else u got in mind? BL's Int? just BM1 and combo lol so no man FB is never underpowered but i consider 1 of the best classes

BL is the char that really need to equal other coz it lost its place now as example if u run a pro dung now adays u ask for a WA - WI - FS - FB mostly
FA some times if its avaliable but super rare that u ask for a BL coz atm WA dps is almost like BL plus fury

so in my opinion BL is the class u need to argue abt not any other coz the others r good enough but tbh i really dnt like the FS DPS coz its the lamest (no crits u sux)
u may be have big experience as u say but its useless when u dnt look at ur char big advantages and just look at the negative side every char got a negative side and every char got its unique abilities.

Well said

[Berserk_Fury]

1st i agree with cathy FB isnt underpowered the really underpowered char atm is BL
BL is kinda useless until it have epic gears now adays not the best pve char any more like it used to be
and btw if u rank the chars by stats then
att : WA-WI-FA-BL-FB-FS
def : FS-WA-FB-FA-BL-WI
HP : WA-BL-FS-FB-FA-WI
rates : BL-WI-FB-FA-WA-FS
CR : FB-FS-FA-any other chars
CD : FS-FB-any other char

those r the basics but FBs got a really good dps as cathy said almost like FA
if u talkin abt other classes buffs like as example talkin abt the strongest buffs here : WAs bloody spirit and fury shout and FS mortal Bane also FA dmg buff i dnt remember its name been along time since i played with a FA
ur debuffs cover that better as example : u got enervation with -12 lvl that affect the opp char/mob alot in over all stats - MF witch takes 1.4k MP actually 1.6k MP if u use it with enervation only WI wont have problem with it - hard luck that decrease resists and if the opp char/mob got no resists it add to ur stats! - root witch is kinda infinity and stick every one in its place add to that ur skills got (- attack / rates etc) so u r not underpowered ok now u gonna say FS's AOD outside war any char with 1k att / 50 amp / 140% cd can break AOD easly didnt mention BM3 tho witch makes AOD almost useless so wat else u got in mind? BL's Int? just BM1 and combo lol so no man FB is never underpowered but i consider 1 of the best classes

BL is the char that really need to equal other coz it lost its place now as example if u run a pro dung now adays u ask for a WA - WI - FS - FB mostly
FA some times if its avaliable but super rare that u ask for a BL coz atm WA dps is almost like BL plus fury

so in my opinion BL is the class u need to argue abt not any other coz the others r good enough but tbh i really dnt like the FS DPS coz its the lamest (no crits u sux)
u may be have big experience as u say but its useless when u dnt look at ur char big advantages and just look at the negative side every char got a negative side and every char got its unique abilities.

While I do agree with you, since when do bl have less def than fb and fa?

[CheeseForMe]

1st i agree with cathy FB isnt underpowered the really underpowered char atm is BL
BL is kinda useless until it have epic gears now adays not the best pve char any more like it used to be
and btw if u rank the chars by stats then
att : WA-WI-FA-BL-FB-FS
def : FS-WA-FB-FA-BL-WI
HP : WA-BL-FS-FB-FA-WI
rates : BL-WI-FB-FA-WA-FS
CR : FB-FS-FA-any other chars
CD : FS-FB-any other char

those r the basics but FBs got a really good dps as cathy said almost like FA
if u talkin abt other classes buffs like as example talkin abt the strongest buffs here : WAs bloody spirit and fury shout and FS mortal Bane also FA dmg buff i dnt remember its name been along time since i played with a FA
ur debuffs cover that better as example : u got enervation with -12 lvl that affect the opp char/mob alot in over all stats - MF witch takes 1.4k MP actually 1.6k MP if u use it with enervation only WI wont have problem with it - hard luck that decrease resists and if the opp char/mob got no resists it add to ur stats! - root witch is kinda infinity and stick every one in its place add to that ur skills got (- attack / rates etc) so u r not underpowered ok now u gonna say FS's AOD outside war any char with 1k att / 50 amp / 140% cd can break AOD easly didnt mention BM3 tho witch makes AOD almost useless so wat else u got in mind? BL's Int? just BM1 and combo lol so no man FB is never underpowered but i consider 1 of the best classes

BL is the char that really need to equal other coz it lost its place now as example if u run a pro dung now adays u ask for a WA - WI - FS - FB mostly
FA some times if its avaliable but super rare that u ask for a BL coz atm WA dps is almost like BL plus fury

so in my opinion BL is the class u need to argue abt not any other coz the others r good enough but tbh i really dnt like the FS DPS coz its the lamest (no crits u sux)
u may be have big experience as u say but its useless when u dnt look at ur char big advantages and just look at the negative side every char got a negative side and every char got its unique abilities. Like ive mentioned before and if you pay close attention to what ive posted then you shouldn't have even wasted time posting. I don't care about the now. Everything seems well except for bladder which is being left behind that i agree on and i never argued it.

My problem is them buffing FA/WIZ/WA. I can play my FB probably better than most people can play it cause ive dealt with playing him skill wise vs depending on gear. While others have started playing FB with some cash in their pocket. You learn quite a bit from your character when you built him from the ground and up. I know my pro's and cons well enough to make this judgement. People just think FB = Root OH THATS MAKE THEM BALANCED. Debuffs = OH BALANCED.That isn't the case at all. Root is super annoying and i can see why people would say why that makes them balanced but thats something most of the noobs say. Same goes with mana freeze. People still till this day don't know how to counter it and it is very, very easy to counter. I do it every time. You walk around with a set of gear with slots filled with mana and bam you're free OP. You can counter FB too easy thats another one of my issues. FA already can release enervation and now they wanna give them a % to not get nervated AT ALL? Oh fak that. If that isn't OP then i really don't know what is. They're basically taking away FB's kit, the kit that made them unique. If they wanna take it then they should but at least substitute it with some decent base HP or defense. It seems to me that they're slowly taking FB's ability to enervate every singe patch they come up with. The skill that cathy claims WINS WARS lol.

[CheeseForMe]

While I do agree with you, since when do bl have less def than fb and fa?
They don't lol that guy doesn't know what he's talkin about.

[CheeseForMe]

Wait what? Where'd you read that? You tube it. It's a debuff, i think it lasts 15 seconds. Someone posted a video of it 2 days ago you can probably find it. I think if you youtube EP10 FB AND FS SKILLS, it will come up.

[Cathy]

Like ive mentioned before and if you pay close attention to what ive posted then you shouldn't have even wasted time posting. I don't care about the now. Everything seems well except for bladder which is being left behind that i agree on and i never argued it.

My problem is them buffing FA/WIZ/WA. I can play my FB probably better than most people can play it cause ive dealt with playing him skill wise vs depending on gear. While others have started playing FB with some cash in their pocket. You learn quite a bit from your character when you built him from the ground and up. I know my pro's and cons well enough to make this judgement. People just think FB = Root OH THATS MAKE THEM BALANCED. Debuffs = OH BALANCED.That isn't the case at all. Root is super annoying and i can see why people would say why that makes them balanced but thats something most of the noobs say. Same goes with mana freeze. People still till this day don't know how to counter it and it is very, very easy to counter. I do it every time. You walk around with a set of gear with slots filled with mana and bam you're free OP. You can counter FB too easy thats another one of my issues. FA already can release enervation and now they wanna give them a % to not get nervated AT ALL? Oh fak that. If that isn't OP then i really don't know what is. They're basically taking away FB's kit, the kit that made them unique. If they wanna take it then they should but at least substitute it with some decent base HP or defense. It seems to me that they're slowly taking FB's ability to enervate every singe patch they come up with. The skill that cathy claims WINS WARS lol.

If you even read the patch notes you'd see that every class is losing something and gaining something. You don't know anything about the changes they're implementing, nor do you know anything about FB or any of the classes for that matter.

cause ive dealt with playing him skill wise vs depending on gear. While others have started playing FB with some cash in their pocket.

You're going on a huge assumption that people here aren't more experienced than you in building characters from scratch.

[CheeseForMe]

If you even read the patch notes you'd see that every class is losing something and gaining something. You don't know anything about the changes they're implementing, nor do you know anything about FB or any of the classes for that matter.

cause ive dealt with playing him skill wise vs depending on gear. While others have started playing FB with some cash in their pocket.

You're going on a huge assumption that people here aren't more experienced than you in building characters from scratch.

Learn to read. I said i can play him better than MOST people. I know more than you think. I'm basing my assumption off your opinion which comes off as ignorant to me personally, i'm also basing it off experience. You can always pinpoint the good FB vs the bad @ war. Some don't or can't even root/debuff effectively and fluently.That's just my opinion. We aren't going to agree and ive concluded but apparently you haven't grasped that idea yet.

[Cathy]

Learn to read. I said i can play him better than MOST people. I know more than you think. I'm basing my assumption off your opinion which comes off as ignorant to me personally, i'm also basing it off experience. You can always pinpoint the good FB vs the bad @ war. Some don't or can't even root/debuff effectively and fluently.That's just my opinion. We aren't going to agree and ive concluded but apparently you haven't grasped that idea yet.

There is nothing here to "agree" on

When somebody says "2+2=4" nobody cares if you agree or not

[CheeseForMe]

There is nothing here to "agree" on

When somebody says "2+2=4" nobody cares if you agree or not
Yup if it was actually accurate. It's your opinion vs mine. You play FA i play FB. Enough said.

[Cathy]

Yup if it was actually accurate. It's your opinion vs mine. You play FA i play FB. Enough said.

lol

There's no opinions here other than yours

> somebody states a fact
> you say you don't believe its true
> it's still a fact whether you believe its true or not

You can't call facts "opinions" just because you don't want to believe it.

Any nut can say they don't believe 2+2 can equal 4. That doesn't mean 2+2 doesn't equal 4.

[bippy]

best FB is PeachesAndCream, just saying :o

[Aborame]

oh crap lol i messed up the arrangement in def ranks any ways i was almost sleeping on the key board and yea sorry i edited it
just 1 thing to say to cheese u r not the one who judge on the way u play
ppl who play with u r who judge on u
so sayin bla bla bla abt being better than many (ofc there r nubs all the time) but how did u put urself in a rank like that hmmm make a voting? :D

[Cathy]

best FB is PeachesAndCream, just saying :o

n.n

[CheeseForMe]

lol

There's no opinions here other than yours

> somebody states a fact
> you say you don't believe its true
> it's still a fact whether you believe its true or not

You can't call facts "opinions" just because you don't want to believe it.

Any nut can say they don't believe 2+2 can equal 4. That doesn't mean 2+2 doesn't equal 4. The same can apply's to you... Since when is everything you say 100% fact? It's an opinion. Do you know what that means? Just cause you played fb doesn't mean what you say is 100% true. It's what you believe and that makes it an opinion. Doesn't matter what i or you say. I think what you say is flawed and you think its true therefore it makes it an opinion. Not everyone agrees with your logic, wake up and smell the coffee. World doesn't spin around you.

[CheeseForMe]

oh crap lol i messed up the arrangement in def ranks any ways i was almost sleeping on the key board and yea sorry i edited it
just 1 thing to say to cheese u r not the one who judge on the way u play
ppl who play with u r who judge on u
so sayin bla bla bla abt being better than many (ofc there r nubs all the time) but how did u put urself in a rank like that hmmm make a voting? :D

1st of all learn basic english, 2ndly ive already made what i based my stats off VERY clear. I'm sorry if you can't understand that. There is really no other way to simplify it for someone who can't comprehend english 100%. Read everything careful and you might find your answer, just maybe.

[Cathy]

The same can apply's to you... Since when is everything you say 100% fact? It's an opinion. Do you know what that means? Just cause you played fb doesn't mean what you say is 100% true. It's what you believe and that makes it an opinion. Doesn't matter what i or you say. I think what you say is flawed and you think its true therefore it makes it an opinion. Not everyone agrees with your logic, wake up and smell the coffee. World doesn't spin around you.

When you say 2+2=4, its going to be true whether or not the world spins around you. Its true even if people think its flawed (which just means they're wrong). And its true no matter what kind of "logic" people want to use.

[Aborame]

gimme basic English lesson professor . oh w8 idgaf abt using comprehend english
i am a gamer :P
and abt the 2nd thing all i c from u so far is (I am the best all of u r my crap) ok then go prove that u r the best put a video show ur skills idc abt ur dmg or gears many ppl got gears and cant play.
Go ahead upload 1 am w8in :P

[CheeseForMe]

When you say 2+2=4, its going to be true whether or not the world spins around you. Its true even if people think its flawed (which just means they're wrong). And its true no matter what kind of "logic" people want to use.

REALLY? lol. It's hard to take you serious. You aren't as bright as i had assumed. You can't fix broken records. These forums have clouded your mind and now you think you're absolute. Your logic would make sense if what you said was accurate so to be more accurate your OPINION is more like 2+2=5 :D.

[CheeseForMe]

gimme basic English lesson professor . oh w8 idgaf abt using comprehend english
i am a gamer :P
and abt the 2nd thing all i c from u so far is (I am the best all of u r my crap) ok then go prove that u r the best put a video show ur skills idc abt ur dmg or gears many ppl got gears and cant play.
Go ahead upload 1 am w8in :P
Honestly... i read like 10 words i quit.. Your English hurts my eyes. Not even my 8 year old sister types like that. But im sure somwhere in that paragraph i have answered your question in the past few pages. Every time you ask a question, it has already been answered. Try reading it twice.

[Aborame]

I am a lifeless gamer. Who don't need comprehend in every thing he say, so i write the way i like. If you don't like it ,then quit reading. and yea i can use it :P
And you didn't answer. Where's your proof that you are the best?
By The Way I won't use comprehend again ,so enjoy reading this time kakakaka.

[CheeseForMe]

I am a lifeless gamer. Who don't need comprehend in every thing he say, so i write the way i like. If you don't like it ,then quit reading. and yea i can use it :P
And you didn't answer. Where's your proof that you are the best?
By The Way I won't use comprehend again ,so enjoy reading this time kakakaka.

Gosh i hate stupid people... Not many things i hate but the dumb ones for some reason... LEARN TO READ! FAAAAK MEEEEHHHH!!!! READING CAN GET YOU VERY FAR, VERY, VERYYYYY FAR.

Not even going to respond to you anymore. I don't like children.

[HeatEND]

i keep telling you guys, FB is not getting a -50% amp resist buff. that's a translation error...

[NewEra]

Since cathy already has EP 10 i'll put this here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m4K9iU5KC4&feature=youtu.be

[HeatEND]

its hilarious to me that absolutely no one is complaining about bladers getting an invincibility buff. that just goes to show how little everyone thinks of these guys.

[Deathlymonkey]

its hilarious to me that absolutely no one is complaining about bladers getting an invincibility buff. that just goes to show how little everyone thinks of these guys.

Bladers is the class that should be QQing with this update, they have nothing other than int.

[Cathy]

Bladers is the class that should be QQing with this update, they have nothing other than int.

Who cares about a 12 second invincibility buff; nobody even wastes time hitting a BL in the first place :P

[Deathlymonkey]

Who cares about a 12 second invincibility buff; nobody even wastes time hitting a BL in the first place :P

Im not not one saying they're op lol










Bippy only OP blader on cabal

[Spamzor]

FB's can now use Both roots and MF in Bm2 >_> <_<

[Sandulf]

Just wanna comment a bit on the warrior situation, is it me or WA are getting OP? i mean look at this dmg and reduction of dmg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dODqL_VUstA#!
in bm2 wa was hitting ~1.4k while taking only 8xx crits from a FS in bm3
and in bm3 was was doing even more while still taking crit from FS
i think the new stats gona be like for 1k str thats 10% dmg reduction or something along those lines with combined penetration WI/FA/WA will dominate since they are pure str/int

[Corvettezr1]

hi guys, im a warrior, i have 72 int, i dont understand this forum

[Cathy]

hi guys, im a warrior, i have 72 int, i dont understand this forum

MFB smarter than your average FB

[Valdoroth]

MFB smarter than your average FB And an SFB that knows how to combo and debuff in combo properly is better.

[jamnotjelly]

Imma lvl 174 fb da hells a debuff val

[Spamzor]

Ye Val wth is a debuff? *confused*

[Sea]

hi guys, im a warrior, i have 72 int, i dont understand this forum

wa r so dumb all stats goes to str but nothing goes to int...
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6222/howcanyousurvivebeingso.jpg

[Valdoroth]

Imma lvl 174 fb da hells a debuff val


Ye Val wth is a debuff? *confused*

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/6222/howcanyousurvivebeingso.jpg
See above quotes,

[alhifnawy3]

Just wanna comment a bit on the warrior situation, is it me or WA are getting OP? i mean look at this dmg and reduction of dmg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dODqL_VUstA#!
in bm2 wa was hitting ~1.4k while taking only 8xx crits from a FS in bm3
and in bm3 was was doing even more while still taking crit from FS
i think the new stats gona be like for 1k str thats 10% dmg reduction or something along those lines with combined penetration WI/FA/WA will dominate since they are pure str/inthe stated that the wa is lvl190 and he's 170 so maybe the 20lvls makes a differnece plus he maybe got buff potions that increases his attack maybe 100+

[Spamzor]

See above quotes,

lololol

[Sandulf]

he stated that the wa is lvl190 and he's 170 so maybe the 20lvls makes a differnece plus he maybe got buff potions that increases his attack maybe 100+
I see what u mean, and ya could be and lvl diff is important. What i saw also was that fs bm3 was hitting him pretty low 8xx in crit also look at when he activates aod the wa bm3 still "penetrates" through that like its nothing. Also see that wa bm2~bm3 in dmg and thats no bloody in bm2 if u notice.
I believe this is a rebirth of pure classes wa/wi/bl (dont have cr buffs) since fa/fb/fs (have cr buffs) have been dominating, with new stats attributions pure classes will shine better

[Valdoroth]

I see what u mean, and ya could be and lvl diff is important. What i saw also was that fs bm3 was hitting him pretty low 8xx in crit also look at when he activates aod the wa bm3 still "penetrates" through that like its nothing. Also see that wa bm2~bm3 in dmg and thats no bloody in bm2 if u notice.
I believe this is a rebirth of pure classes wa/wi/bl (dont have cr buffs) since fa/fb/fs (have cr buffs) have been dominating, with new stats attributions pure classes will shine better
Well 20% dmg reduction is alot (that's not 20% on crits, its 20% on everything).

[Sandulf]

http://mrwormy.wordpress.com/2012/09/09/ep10-info-a-bit-of-skill-renewal/
found this little gem online
Hopefully these new dmg calculations for ww and trans skill become true ;D

[Dust2Dust]

In EP10 each crystal will give 20% more damage output. So FB and FS will gain a 20% boost on the damage gained from their crystal and FA will gain 40% additional damage from their 2 crystals :)

Example:

Let's imagine that without weapons you hit 1000 on 1 target, if you put 2 orbs you hit 3000. That's 3000 - 1000 = 2000 damage gained from 2 orbs. Now let's take 2 crystals which are the same as those 2 orbs used before. 40% additional damage, 2000 * 1.4 = 2800; 1000 + 2800 = 3800. 3800 - 3000 = 800 more damage than orbs in this example. Now just change these false numbers with real ones and you'll see how powerful crystals will be in EP10.

Source: November 1st Patch Notes from MrWormy

[AceRogue]

http://mrwormy.wordpress.com/2012/09/01/kr-ep10-info-cabal-brand-new-bike-and-new-shouting-way/

[Deathlymonkey]

In EP10 each crystal will give 20% more damage output. So FB and FS will gain a 20% boost on the damage gained from their crystal and FA will gain 40% additional damage from their 2 crystals :)

Example:

Let's imagine that without weapons you hit 1000 on 1 target, if you put 2 orbs you hit 3000. That's 3000 - 1000 = 2000 damage gained from 2 orbs. Now let's take 2 crystals which are the same as those 2 orbs used before. 40% additional damage, 2000 * 1.4 = 2800; 1000 + 2800 = 3800. 3800 - 3000 = 800 more damage than orbs in this example. Now just change these false numbers with real ones and you'll see how powerful crystals will be in EP10.

Source: November 1st Patch Notes from MrWormy

If that's true I'm rerolling xtal-wiz brah

[Berserk_Fury]

In EP10 each crystal will give 20% more damage output. So FB and FS will gain a 20% boost on the damage gained from their crystal and FA will gain 40% additional damage from their 2 crystals :)

Example:

Let's imagine that without weapons you hit 1000 on 1 target, if you put 2 orbs you hit 3000. That's 3000 - 1000 = 2000 damage gained from 2 orbs. Now let's take 2 crystals which are the same as those 2 orbs used before. 40% additional damage, 2000 * 1.4 = 2800; 1000 + 2800 = 3800. 3800 - 3000 = 800 more damage than orbs in this example. Now just change these false numbers with real ones and you'll see how powerful crystals will be in EP10.

Source: November 1st Patch Notes from MrWormy

I don't think it will be simple. The damage boost will probably only affect the crystal's base attack/m.attack stats, which is still a huge boost, but not as big as your example.

[Dust2Dust]

I don't think it will be simple. The damage boost will probably only affect the crystal's base attack/m.attack stats, which is still a huge boost, but not as big as your example.

That's one of the first things I asked, and the answer was nope. It is calculated after, directly on damage output gained from weapon, like in my example.

[Berserk_Fury]

That's one of the first things I asked, and the answer was nope. It is calculated after, directly on damage output gained from weapon, like in my example.

The hell? That's ridiculous, would it apply to all classes that can use them, or only magic classes?

[Dust2Dust]

The hell? That's ridiculous, would it apply to all classes that can use them, or only magic classes?

FB and FS only 20% since 1 crystal, FA and WI 40% since 2.

If it's too unbalanced devs will probably reduce the %...

[Sprite]

dafuq is this nonsense? that guy is trolling hard

[Cathy]

The hell? That's ridiculous, would it apply to all classes that can use them, or only magic classes?

My guess is they'll do something like that for all weapons. Maybe Blades will get something like +Pierce.

There's no way they'd allow FA's to gain 40% on their damage without the other classes having something to offset it.

[Dust2Dust]

My guess is they'll do something like that for all weapons. Maybe Blades will get something like +Pierce.

There's no way they'd allow FA's to gain 40% on their damage without the other classes having something to offset it.

It's not completely right to say "40% of their damage" because it's 40% of the gained damage from weapons... Still huge tho.

[Legato685]

Why are they messing with the game after so many years -.-,just have a feeling esp10 is like a hidden beta test for cabal 2.

[NewEra]

http://mrwormy.wordpress.com/2012/11/03/ep10-info-cabal-new-astral-bike-type-rw4/

[Sea]

http://mrwormy.wordpress.com/2012/11/03/ep10-info-cabal-new-astral-bike-type-rw4/

that bike is so freaking ugly...

[ForumHavoc]

http://mrwormy.wordpress.com/2012/11/03/ep10-info-cabal-new-astral-bike-type-rw4/

That bike litterally looks like a giant eos8.

[Berserk_Fury]

http://mrwormy.wordpress.com/2012/11/03/ep10-info-cabal-new-astral-bike-type-rw4/

I don't understand why they would give them to everyone that went to the global camp. They already got a free trip to Korea out of it, why do they deserve more stuff?

[Sprite]

I don't understand why they would give them to everyone that went to the global camp. They already got a free trip to Korea out of it, why do they deserve more stuff?

It's ok bro, I'll be too poor to do anything with mine anyways, and it'll probably break if I try to extend it - just like the crystal one they gave us :(

[ForumHavoc]

It's ok bro, I'll be too poor to do anything with mine anyways, and it'll probably break if I try to extend it - just like the crystal one they gave us :(

Shut up.

[Sandulf]

Well 20% dmg reduction is alot (that's not 20% on crits, its 20% on everything).

Yeah so just looked closer and check FS hp 9xxx and wa hp 5xxx thats a big ass difference i thought WA had more hp?
So tell me again how this works less hp=less def?

[Berserk_Fury]

Yeah so just looked closer and check FS hp 9xxx and wa hp 5xxx thats a big ass difference i thought WA had more hp?
So tell me again how this works less hp=less def?

That update is going to do all sorts of crazy things with stats, so who knows.

[HeatEND]

1. Blader Skill Change
Death Cross
Remove SP consumption
Cooldown adjusted to 3s
Level 1 Skill Amp will be 25.5% and +0.5% per level
Level 1 Attack will be 254.9 and +6 per level
Remove Silence effect
Assault
Consumes SP : 300
Cooldown changed : 180 s
Skill Amp fixed at 20% regardless of level
Level 1 Attack will be 120 and +20 per level
Add option : Silence target for 6s (At level 1 : 61% Chance, +1% per level – At level 20 : 80%)
Allowed using in Battle Mode 2/3
2. Wizard Skill Change
Energy Field skill is now allowed using in Battle Mode 3

LOL omg wi the harbinger of death!!

[jamnotjelly]

I think the update s simply because debuffs cost spp

[AceRogue]

ZOMG can't wait for it!!!

[Valdoroth]

Did you miss this note?:


2. Change the fee to enter Mission War to 0 Alz

[Valdoroth]

bump.

FS Self heal heals 1500 HP :O

[Sea]

bump.

FS Self heal heals 1500 HP :O

ima go to venus soon and kick chu ass ^_^

[Notavi]

ima go to venus soon and kick chu ass ^_^

You're coming?

[Valdoroth]

ima go to venus soon and kick chu ass ^_^did you mean chingu? or you?

[Sea]

yea ima start gearing up starting this weekend, its gonna take me like 2 weeks or 1 month to fully gear up,slow cuz i am not rich x.x but yea well see =p

[Valdoroth]

I'm not rich either. I can't wait to see all the changes we get next update. Sea, i gotta come to Merc to pic up a bike scroll sometime soon ish.

[Sea]

i still need to ask u a couple of question about next update lol and damnit stay in 1 place already >.< lol