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rjarol02
11-02-2012, 08:03 PM
Hey guys im just confious about Def and attack.
everyone and everyclass goes to Epaulet of fighter or sage . but not EOG+8 which gives you 60 def and 350 hp while EOF and EOS+7 only gives you 40 attacks.
Doesnt that means that Everytime u attack u have +40 attack and while ur enemy has EOG+8 , gets 60 def in every attack he get.

can anyone please explain this? why is it that 40 attack or M. attack is better than EOG which gives you 60 def.

rjarol02
11-04-2012, 08:28 AM
bumps to this.

Sandulf
11-04-2012, 08:59 AM
Would u rather have more atck or def? that 60 def will do nothing vs ppl with 50+ amp and 150+ cd so ya useless question

rjarol02
11-04-2012, 09:10 AM
thenwhy would would Force shielders gets Forcy 3 amp gears and wont go for smaller defense with 7 amps.?

Berserk_Fury
11-04-2012, 09:55 AM
thenwhy would would Force shielders gets Forcy 3 amp gears and wont go for smaller defense with 7 amps.?

Because in your imaginary world lower grade crystals give as much attack as forcium.

Valdoroth
11-04-2012, 10:05 AM
Because in your imaginary world lower grade crystals give as much attack as forcium.
I'm not seeing how defense = atk to your statement.... He said defense not attack.

Now if you were refering to them using forci weaps to cut through the lower def gears better regardless of their higher amp, then yes.

Berserk_Fury
11-04-2012, 10:45 AM
I'm not seeing how defense = atk to your statement.... He said defense not attack.

Now if you were refering to them using forci weaps to cut through the lower def gears better regardless of their higher amp, then yes.

He commented on FS using forccium crystals with only a 3 amp craft as if they only use them for the extra def they get on their shield. My comment was in reference to why they actually use them.

Cathy
11-04-2012, 10:51 AM
He commented on FS using forccium crystals with only a 3 amp craft as if they only use them for the extra def they get on their shield. My comment was in reference to why they actually use them.

I think he was talking about suit/glove/boot, not crystals, because he compared them to 7 amp suit/glove/boots that have less defense (like s.tit/osm). At least thats how I read it.


thenwhy would would Force shielders gets Forcy 3 amp gears and wont go for smaller defense with 7 amps.?

but to answer your question rjarol02; FS wouldn't get forci 3 amp gears instead of osm 7 amp gears. Typically all new players overrate defense and do things like use 3 amp forci gears and eog8, because they're new and don't really know what they're doing. Most experienced players will tell you that you're better off going with offensive stats instead.

Berserk_Fury
11-04-2012, 11:10 AM
I think he was talking about suit/glove/boot, not crystals, because he compared them to 7 amp suit/glove/boots that have less defense (like s.tit/osm). At least thats how I read it.



but to answer your question rjarol02; FS wouldn't get forci 3 amp gears instead of osm 7 amp gears. Typically all new players overrate defense and do things like use 3 amp forci gears and eog8, because they're new and don't really know what they're doing. Most experienced players will tell you that you're better off going with offensive stats instead.

right, my bad, I misread

HeatEND
11-04-2012, 11:36 AM
if they want to make epaulet of guardian relevent, they need to give it resist amp +x%...

Berserk_Fury
11-04-2012, 12:40 PM
if they want to make epaulet of guardian relevent, they need to give it resist amp +x%...

drei guard has resist rate

rjarol02
11-04-2012, 03:32 PM
ops sorry and yeah what i meant was most shielders gets forcium Gears with only 3 amps. while other class focus on their amps.
And i also noticed that even tho FS has a crappy gears they still kick ass.
I think he was talking about suit/glove/boot, not crystals, because he compared them to 7 amp suit/glove/boots that have less defense (like s.tit/osm). At least thats how I read it.



but to answer your question rjarol02; FS wouldn't get forci 3 amp gears instead of osm 7 amp gears. Typically all new players overrate defense and do things like use 3 amp forci gears and eog8, because they're new and don't really know what they're doing. Most experienced players will tell you that you're better off going with offensive stats instead.

Cathy
11-04-2012, 03:44 PM
ops sorry and yeah what i meant was most shielders gets forcium Gears with only 3 amps. while other class focus on their amps.
And i also noticed that even tho FS has a crappy gears they still kick ass.

It isn't most shielders. It's just most un-experienced shielders :P

rjarol02
11-04-2012, 04:13 PM
oh i see.. but still why is it that even tho Shielders has a crappy gears they still kick ass compare to other classes?

Aero
11-04-2012, 04:40 PM
because of their buff that give cd and rate

rjarol02
11-04-2012, 04:57 PM
then doesnt that make Shielders calss op?

Cathy
11-04-2012, 05:35 PM
then doesnt that make Shielders calss op?

Classes grow differently

When you put all 6 classes side by side:

If they all have no gear, FB and FS are strongest

If they all have really good gear, WA and WI become strongest

Aborame
11-05-2012, 09:59 PM
ok any experienced FS would chose going for att - amp and dmg and forget about def and thats obv since FS got the worst dps also we already got enough def u can easy hit 900 def in Osm so who care about def know nothing about FS
having alot of def with low dmg don't help you can easly survive but can u really give enough dmg to ur enemy with much def sacrificing the dmg? no way

u can easly make a test try 10 attack Vs. 15 def u will find that att makes u better.
oh yea about epy : EOG8 yea gives u 60 def but EOF7 gives u 40 att with 4% amp that makes the difference
Just balance everything and u r good to go

godafe
11-07-2012, 05:20 AM
Maybe the next update (EP10) will do something about this att vs def question. In PVE you can see a damage difference, because they change all damage formulas. Maybe new builds will be used. Maybe even a Forcium 3% amp will be viable (For defensive survival only, obviously a 7% amp is more desirable). Maybe maybe maybe... who knows?