What's the point of having good items dropped if u cant sell?

[Hilal]

Is crafting success rate that high? there's no point of running dungeons if the items drop don't sell.
Either decrease success rate of crafting or increase seh(h)s drop rate.

[Lucifer]

You give it to us for free :O

[terror]

I was just thinking that. Running dungeons is almost pointless now except to get cores, jewelry, and bikes. Anything- well, most anything- that could drop in a dungeon is now outclassed by Craftsman crafts. Master I could see being always better, but...

Ah well, bound to be someone who will buy it, no? -_-'

[Abi]

Craft success is easy? I don't know about that. So far tried over 50 redosm crafts with my level being above 4k and I haven't succeeded a single craft. (and I mean succeed, not PC...)

I think those people getting forcy crafts out of their -where-the-sun-doesn't-shine- are either spamming a hundred crafts a day minimum or either "helping" their luck.

[awakening]

Craft success is easy? I don't know about that. So far tried over 50 redosm crafts with my level being above 4k and I haven't succeeded a single craft. (and I mean succeed, not PC...)

I think those people getting forcy crafts out of their -where-the-sun-doesn't-shine- are either spamming a hundred crafts a day minimum or either "helping" their luck.

spamming redosm crafts at 4k is stupid and a waste of alz.

[xvxURIZENxvx]

90% of drops are crafting materials in disguise

[Legato685]

Its because of cb, why stuff in dungeon don't sell.I think its time they get rid of cb gears in dungeon now because of the crafting stuff being better.

[Faowin]

Craft success is easy? I don't know about that. So far tried over 50 redosm crafts with my level being above 4k and I haven't succeeded a single craft. (and I mean succeed, not PC...)

I think those people getting forcy crafts out of their -where-the-sun-doesn't-shine- are either spamming a hundred crafts a day minimum or either "helping" their luck.

Abi.....4k crafting level is shadow titanium >.< There is no way you can get a success with red osmium at that level.


90% of drops are crafting materials in disguise

This is the truth. All those slots are actually force core pieces in hiding.

[Valdoroth]

Abi.....4k crafting level is shadow titanium >.< There is no way you can get a success with red osmium at that level.

^this

This is the truth. All those slots are actually force core pieces in hiding. Well said.

[Abi]

My bad I said 4k but I was actually at 4999, and I was already crafting redosm prior to the crafting system change so telling me 4k is s.tit is kinda rubbish.

Yea sure with the new system now you can still get exp from s.tit, whereas before the change you could only get exp from the grade you were at.

[Valdoroth]

My bad I said 4k but I was actually at 4999, and I was already crafting redosm prior to the crafting system change so telling me 4k is s.tit is kinda rubbish.
Yea sure with the new system now you can still get exp from s.tit, whereas before the change you could only get exp from the grade you were at. 4999 is still considered 4k by the game. Dude seriously spend the 72m( or is it less?) to make it 5k. That is when it increases the rates some.
0-1k = old aramid (obsolete now)
1-2k = bluestin basic success
2-3k = titanium " "
3-4k= stit " "
4-5k= osm " "
5-6k= redosm " "
6-7k= sigmetal " "
7-8k= forcium " "
8k+= increase chance for all at 8000, 9000, and 10,000.
Yes you get exp for stit for 7k and below. No the success rate of redosm is NOT good at the osm level. Best is to do mainly that lvl's corresponding and below until you get to the X999 mark to upgrade it to the next higher level.

[terror]

0-1k = old aramid (obsolete now)
1-2k = bluestin basic success

Yes everyone, please waste your mats with Bluestin for 1k points. xD

[Angus]

I tried 22 redo kat tries with a 10k crafter and failed PC 2 slots 22 times. We passed 4 of them PC 1 slot. Do tell where this success rate is so high :)

[Faowin]

Are you certain this guy had 10k craftinf? Or were you just giving him crafting experience?

[Abi]

4999 is still considered 4k by the game. Dude seriously spend the 72m( or is it less?) to make it 5k. That is when it increases the rates some.
0-1k = old aramid (obsolete now)
1-2k = bluestin basic success
2-3k = titanium " "
3-4k= stit " "
4-5k= osm " "
5-6k= redosm " "
6-7k= sigmetal " "
7-8k= forcium " "
8k+= increase chance for all at 8000, 9000, and 10,000.
Yes you get exp for stit for 7k and below. No the success rate of redosm is NOT good at the osm level. Best is to do mainly that lvl's corresponding and below until you get to the X999 mark to upgrade it to the next higher level.



1. don't call me dude. ever. it's disrespectful

2. you're still missing the point that I was already crafting redosm prior to the change in the crafting system. So are you saying that this "update" made me lose all the hardwork I had done? and it's 50m and yes I've spent it and I even tried crafting 3 s.tit after doing so and guess what? Yep all 3 failed. Not even a low craft or anything, just plain failed.

So either the "crafters" are helping themselves in some shady ways, either my character has been cursed or something.

[xTheNexiOnex]

Most players that are crappin out all those pc have:
1. A lot of alz and some luck with 8k + crafting

2. A lot of luck with 8k + crafting

All in all crafting is mainly luck with high crafting amity.

[killerdevil]

Well ye, they're too dumb About the drop system , it should've been modified on the same update when Cman items came , COZ , for example , getting PC Redosm grade armor amp from a dungeon is much harder than crafting it , and it has a cheaper price + it's cb , so it doesn't even sell. Currently , only good drop outcomes are epaulettes and Extenders WHICH BASICALLY SUX, coz some ppl arent lucky enuff to get those.

[blazingturd]

1. don't call me dude. ever. it's disrespectful

oh no, this dude has been disrespected!

please just

[Lulu]

1. don't call me dude. ever. it's disrespectful

2. you're still missing the point that I was already crafting redosm prior to the change in the crafting system. So are you saying that this "update" made me lose all the hardwork I had done? and it's 50m and yes I've spent it and I even tried crafting 3 s.tit after doing so and guess what? Yep all 3 failed. Not even a low craft or anything, just plain failed.

So either the "crafters" are helping themselves in some shady ways, either my character has been cursed or something.
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[Lulu]

Hi

[Abi]

I lol'ed at the retardness of your reaction.

I'm a girl, not a guy.

[blazingturd]

I lol'ed at the retardness of your reaction.

I'm a girl, not a guy.

noooooooooooonot a girl!!!

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thanks for the idea lulu

[Abi]

Yeah I'm guessing you're the type that thinks there are no girls on the internet.

Maybe they just don't like hanging around immature people *hint*

[Lulu]

Yeah I'm guessing you're the type that thinks there are no girls on the internet.

Maybe they just don't like hanging around immature people *hint*
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[CandiCoatted]

^
^
^

Maybe Andy finally saw you for what you are

A dumba**

[Lulu]

^
^
^

Maybe Andy finally saw you for what you are

A dumba**
You shouldn't disrespect your future guildy like that

[CandiCoatted]

You shouldn't disrespect your future guildy like that

And the thing is you called me 2 faced right yet "your friend" was the one who repo"ed your gear
Dang karma really is a btch!

And just bc you'll have sei over your characters name will not make me talk to you any differently than I am now.

[Lulu]

And the thing is you called me 2 faced right yet "your friend" was the one who repo"ed your gear
Dang karma really is a btch!

And just bc you'll have sei over your characters name will not make me talk to you any differently than I am now.
Sure I might've deserved it but at least both my faces doesn't lie about my gender=p "dude"

[CandiCoatted]

Sure I might've deserved it but at least both my faces doesn't lie about my gender=p "dude"

Lame, idk y are you trying to change my gender? You have Vegeta to satisfiy you needs. K

[Valdoroth]

nom nom nom (that's the sound I make when I eat popcorn)

[Lulu]

Lame, idk y are you trying to change my gender? You have Vegeta to satisfiy you needs. K
Let's play my favourite game of repeat a lie until you start to believe it. I'll start.
"I'm not a guy"

[Valdoroth]

Let's play my favourite game of repeat a lie until you start to believe it. I'll start.
"I'm not a guy" Ooo I can play this game! "I'm batman"

[Lulu]

Ooo I can play this game! "I'm batman"
I love this game! :D

[Faowin]

Can I play too? :D


Girls don't like me because I'm too nice.

[CandiCoatted]

Let's play my favourite game of repeat a lie until you start to believe it. I'll start.
"I'm not a guy"

You would love that guy. You can say your not also or not a narcistic and often hypocritical dumba** who thinks buy calling someone out of thier name or gender bc she do not associate with you as if this is eHarmony then your smarter than I thought. =))

[Lulu]

You would love that guy. You can say your not also or not a narcistic and often hypocritical dumba** who thinks buy calling someone out of thier name or gender bc she do not associate with you as if this is eHarmony then your smarter than I thought. =))
My turn again!
"Your opinion matters to me and I don't think you're retarded"

[Faowin]

<Removed>

[i sell stuff]

You would love that guy. You can say your not also or not a narcistic and often hypocritical dumba** who thinks buy calling someone out of thier name or gender bc she do not associate with you as if this is eHarmony then your smarter than I thought. =))
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[LaRazz]

You would love that guy. You can say your not also or not a narcistic and often hypocritical dumba** who thinks buy calling someone out of thier name or gender bc she do not associate with you as if this is eHarmony then your smarter than I thought. =))

Don't break your keyboard, looks like someone is getting upset over here.

[CandiCoatted]

My turn again!
"Your opinion matters to me and I don't think you're retarded"

*Wait! pause the game*
It doesn't matter to you? Whhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaattttttttt???? Okay mind blown!

*almost most passed out! But I'm good, it's all good! Resume the game*

[CandiCoatted]

Don't break your keyboard, looks like someone is getting upset over here.

Razz 2 the rescue!!!
Stop wasting your Internet time just to atk me for insulting your
Zero

LoL and why the the double standard? Your zero is replying also.

"Omgomg, I'm like so mad right now" you actually got an assumption right razz!

[Abi]

Let's speak the truth : this has gone beyond off-topic

[Faowin]

Let's speak the truth : this has gone beyond off-topic

Actually, this argument right here is the reason why drop rates are bad.

[Abi]

Actually, this argument right here is the reason why drop rates are bad.

please explain because the way I read this it means : GMs are punishing us with crappy drop rate because we're all too immature

[whitetrash]

please explain because the way I read this it means : GMs are punishing us with crappy drop rate because we're all too immature

Seems legit

[LaRazz]

Razz 2 the rescue!!!
Stop wasting your Internet time just to atk me for insulting your
Zero

LoL and why the the double standard? Your zero is replying also.

"Omgomg, I'm like so mad right now" you actually got an assumption right razz!

Truth, because I have zero respect for you. I've seen you try and screw people over. People that tried to help you out and all you did was take advantage of them time in and time out. O yea and as soon as I step in and point out how you were flawed you started your period right on the spot and started to freak out on me. Remember that?

Deny it if you would like, just remember back to all that M.O crap, maybe that will jog your ever forgetting memory.

[Faowin]

please explain because the way I read this it means : GMs are punishing us with crappy drop rate because we're all too immature


Close enough.

[CandiCoatted]

Truth, because I have zero respect for you. I've seen you try and screw people over. People that tried to help you out and all you did was take advantage of them time in and time out. O yea and as soon as I step in and point out how you were flawed you started your period right on the spot and started to freak out on me. Remember that?

Deny it if you would like, just remember back to all that M.O crap, maybe that will jog your ever forgetting memory.

Really, is that your best shot? I apologized to whomever (idk if he would want me to throw his name in) for my mistake . I didn't know the terms of someone using a character and that owner I doesn't receive anything. Guess you thought I would deny my actions.

Still wasting you Internet time isee

[alhifnawy3]

Seems legitnot legit...they should punish the immature only

[MasterChaosX]

Drop rate is garabge. Run IC1 460+ never dropped an epaulet or extenders. Feel like im wasting my time when i run it and i get 1-2 UCHH 4 UCH 2 FCHH and garbage equipments.

[Faowin]

Drop rate is garabge. Run IC1 460+ never dropped an epaulet or extenders. Feel like im wasting my time when i run it and i get 1-2 UCHH 4 UCH 2 FCHH and garbage equipments.


That garbage equipment is the best thing out of that list, turn it into crafting ingredients and craft.

[xvxURIZENxvx]

*sigh*

I can't believe I'm saying this -_-







But we need more FCH to drop.

(smashes head against keyboard repeatedly)

[Fishy]

^ truth, however shameful it is to admit. There also aren't enough people farming for cores these days. Prices are on the rise

[Faowin]

^ truth, however shameful it is to admit. There also aren't enough people farming for cores these days. Prices are on the rise

Yay, that's good. That means I can sell my stockpile now. :D

[Fishy]

Luckily with Lycanus and Drei Frame base stats and option stats increasing with the next update, people might start farming dungeons again....hopefully

[Shinji]

Deng you guys still alive :o

[Fishy]

It would seem Shinji the noob is too :p