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Jessifer
11-20-2013, 04:15 AM
Drop rate increased 100% - How is this calculated?

As much as I farm and pay each month for a service that actually doesn't increase my loot. I would get same amount without premium than with.

Valdoroth
11-20-2013, 01:36 PM
From personal experience in the past, you simply get more drops in total. The chances are the same, the frequency is increased. It will not influence chests honestly since those are 100% (with exception of RS's relic chests) drop rate.

Lets just say that IC2 mobs have a 5% chance to drop something if killed. That 100% boost increase would make those mobs have a 10% chance to drop something when killed instead. This can also influence bosses themselves dropping something which is a low chance but possible (with exception of bosses which drop items instead of chests by default like LiD).

Typically with farming, you'll notice quite a bit more dungeon crafting materials dropping than without premium (which normally are cheaper to make than buying the dungeon entries).

Hope this makes sense.

Jessifer
11-20-2013, 03:31 PM
It just annoys me that the past 8 months of buying premium all months, I still haven't got anything good drop other than SEMx2 from VC but I see people getting SEH/Epaulets/epic loot evry so dungeon run. Doesn't encourage me to get it anymore.

darkflash
11-20-2013, 03:54 PM
spam more .... 5 runs is not enough .... i mean the drop rate only affects how ofter stuff drop from mobs ... since every thing in a chest has a % chance to be drop that + 100% affects them all for e.g. non-slotted no-epic forci suits have 10%(not actually values) while forci non-slotted outrageous have 5% chance
they both are affected by +100% which = to 110% and 105% respectively .. which is the same as (10 and 5) % ... lol however its all about luck i ran 227
lava-hellfire in 1 week .... nothing good .. the ratio uch to uchh was 1:3 approx with occasional craft forci suit drops ... best of luck when u get bored come to ch 14 ill fix that for ya lol T_T im the only one who pks these days

shankatsu
11-20-2013, 04:22 PM
this is FUNNY! 4 years Premium service farming gears that seven coin gears + miraculous gears = 2600% 2nd slot have never got a good drop. Years ago I got a pre slotted 14% amp sig FA boots from a lobatum in MF without farming gears. The drop rate is crap will it ever be more with farming gears I like to beg but yeah. Soloing IC2 almost every day get only AOG+7, 2 slotted annihilation helm FB Sig most common drops Forcy, SIG, UCHH, UCH, Force rings, and AOGs. But my friends always seem to get EOF. EOG, EOS+8's. Anyways the point is I seem to get better drops with no farming gears how does that work? How much do I farm. All day every day. There was a day I got 2 def runes in a row in MF that seemed like mad luck. When it comes to farming its all luck I dont really know if party hunting really increases chances. with my FB 15 runs for the merg ring, BL 200+ runs. Again in 4 years no bike drops, no EOF+7-8 drops, but it might have changed now that they made the world bosses stronger. A guild mate of mine got a SEH from VC 4 month ago form last chest. So good luck to all who are hunting as I read many drop lists and still manage to get . One suggestion would be increase the drop rate for seven coin gears.

Jessifer
11-20-2013, 05:07 PM
I got a SEHH in a guild party but the party leader decided to scam us all by selling for IRL money. The only good drop and that's what happens.

darkflash
11-20-2013, 05:16 PM
this is FUNNY! 4 years Premium service farming gears that seven coin gears + miraculous gears = 2600% 2nd slot have never got a good drop. Years ago I got a pre slotted 14% amp sig FA boots from a lobatum in MF without farming gears. The drop rate is crap will it ever be more with farming gears I like to beg but yeah. Soloing IC2 almost every day get only AOG+7, 2 slotted annihilation helm FB Sig most common drops Forcy, SIG, UCHH, UCH, Force rings, and AOGs. But my friends always seem to get EOF. EOG, EOS+8's. Anyways the point is I seem to get better drops with no farming gears how does that work? How much do I farm. All day every day. There was a day I got 2 def runes in a row in MF that seemed like mad luck. When it comes to farming its all luck I dont really know if party hunting really increases chances. with my FB 15 runs for the merg ring, BL 200+ runs. Again in 4 years no bike drops, no EOF+7-8 drops, but it might have changed now that they made the world bosses stronger. A guild mate of mine got a SEH from VC 4 month ago form last chest. So good luck to all who are hunting as I read many drop lists and still manage to get . One suggestion would be increase the drop rate for seven coin gears.

like perm farmin gear doens't affect chest T_T sorry bud llol ant its 2 slot items and alz drop .. not + outrageous or annihilation lol like i said its about luck farmin more just increases ur chances of gettin lucky

xXCrusadeXx
11-20-2013, 06:30 PM
If ur looking for epic drops from chests, nothing will help you unfortunately. If, however, you wanted to grind to 190 in arcane trace it might be useful to have increased drop rate.

Jessifer
11-20-2013, 06:44 PM
If ur looking for epic drops from chests, nothing will help you unfortunately. If, however, you wanted to grind to 190 in arcane trace it might be useful to have increased drop rate.

I'm working on that 180 after I get my EoF8. =P

shankatsu
11-21-2013, 08:10 AM
like perm farmin gear doens't affect chest T_T sorry bud llol ant its 2 slot items and alz drop .. not + outrageous or annihilation lol like i said its about luck farmin more just increases ur chances of gettin lucky

You are correct the point I was making is how crappy the 2 slot drop rate is as it is crap, you misunderstood me not saying nothing bout eppy items talking about drops in general. I have 7 coin with gears on I get no slots and if I have no farming gears on I get, guess what, two slotted gears lol. I would think it would be pretty cool too add a miraculous with epic drop chance or rarity chance increase. The way Ive figured with this system is like you said pure luck. But some people get way too lucky.

shankatsu
11-21-2013, 08:16 AM
I got a SEHH in a guild party but the party leader decided to scam us all by selling for IRL money. The only good drop and that's what happens.

Man that sux Id keep that a secret lol usually if there is a descent drop in which go in the billion range we split it(if im in a party if your not well you don't need in on it lol) ,most the time I give my items away I have 7 drosnin earrings that none of are useful Id give them away provided someone can give the ecoins to unbind them.

Valdoroth
11-21-2013, 01:19 PM
How much do I farm. All day every day.

I wish I had free time like that (granted I wouldn't spend it all on one thing, but hey, not everyone's the same)

It took me about 3000 something runs of various dungeons to finally get an SEH to drop from a chest. It's all about luck. Premium is best for the warp (less time to travel = more dungeons and such run) and the exp benefits. Not the drop rates. It's just added in there to look nice.

Jessifer
11-21-2013, 01:48 PM
Man that sux Id keep that a secret lol usually if there is a descent drop in which go in the billion range we split it(if im in a party if your not well you don't need in on it lol) ,most the time I give my items away I have 7 drosnin earrings that none of are useful Id give them away provided someone can give the ecoins to unbind them.

Wish there would be more honest players in Cabal but scammers are too frequent and unharmed which sacks. Oh well. =P