View Full Version : WI and accuracy
providen1990
06-19-2014, 06:13 PM
IDK if anyone notice this but WI miss so much in bm2 with accuracy 117 (no gear that give accuracy). It comes to a point that you actually deal way less damage than combo.... And when you chase someone, you basically miss 70-80% of the time (if you don't crit).
So is there like a magic number for accuracy where you don't have to spend too much alz but still get a good rate of hitting the target? (since most people has around 2k-4k evasion, what is the good accuracy to counter that?)
Keato
06-19-2014, 06:43 PM
I dont have that issue, even though my accuracy is higher. Your attack rate might be able to use a bump I assume?
Tonberry
06-19-2014, 06:44 PM
wa has the same problem...
time to upgarde the bike and the weapons for more accuracy :>
I have no issues with 348 accuracy and 5,602 attack rate. If someone has lightning enervate (I think that's the evasion down one) I don't miss even through quick move. I also hit through most FB's lightning EE (if your base evasion is no good, +200% won't help much).
Edit: fixed accuracy/attack rate numbers.
providen1990
06-19-2014, 08:02 PM
Actually I am planning to buy that accuracy rune from the event it should help a lot. I also feel weird that my bm3 (only 120 accuracy boost) does not miss too much.
what is the general evasion for FB, FA and BL ?
Imunique
06-19-2014, 08:18 PM
go and get title 1200 lvl combine. it gives 100 accuracy, which nearly double your accuracy. Or else extreme your weapon to lvl 2 and above
Actually I am planning to buy that accuracy rune from the event it should help a lot. I also feel weird that my bm3 (only 120 accuracy boost) does not miss too much.
what is the general evasion for FB, FA and BL ?
From what I've seen between 1k and 2.5k usually. FA get 1.4k innate from dex, FB/BL depend on build.
jamnotjelly
06-19-2014, 09:59 PM
Lol wiz bm2 never misses me
Lol wiz bm2 never misses me
Well, BM2 puts me up at 7,352 attack rate -- and I'm usually in a pot with it, so 9,752 attack rate. So... that's a thing.
Edit: with aura it's 11,752.
Imunique
06-20-2014, 02:09 AM
Well, BM2 puts me up at 7,352 attack rate -- and I'm usually in a pot with it, so 9,752 attack rate. So... that's a thing.
Edit: with aura it's 11,752.
that's FA sir, wiz barely reach 5.8k atk rate in BM2 with 2x topaz orb +15 extreme 2. If u get hit by wiz BM2 a lot, u must have extreme low def rate (<2.5k) and eva (<1.5k)
blackpig1412
06-20-2014, 04:45 AM
My suggestion:
- Erase 1 def or 1 magic upgrade and learn attack rate level 2 upgrade (Edited: sorry, this is for WA, since WA needs to learn MP upgrade for mana freeze).
- For WI, learn att rate lv 2 instead of def rate lv 2.
- At level 190, if you only keep STR and DEX enough for FC armors, your INT should be 1100+. Move around 100 INT to DEX.
These should boost your attack rate to around 5k, and you'll see a big difference :)
People usually underestimate the benefit of attack rate.
that's FA sir, wiz barely reach 5.8k atk rate in BM2 with 2x topaz orb +15 extreme 2. If u get hit by wiz BM2 a lot, u must have extreme low def rate (<2.5k) and eva (<1.5k)
Right, FA. (No gloves on, hence the abysmal defense/defense rate. :x)
http://i.imgur.com/wIhLaOM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pzW76Fg.jpg
Variena
06-21-2014, 10:23 AM
Ive seen better xD
Ive seen better xD
Better attack rate? On a wizard? Only place to gain attack rate really is from extreme -- which is something like 300 more, and I don't think there are people with both 4/4 / 5/5 extreme weapons. I guess there's also 480 more from pet -- but does anyone have a 10/10 attack rate pet? And if one wanted to sacrifice 64 base for like... 300 attack rate they could do that as well in passives. So really, only about 1 - 1.5k more is possible, and requires gear that people don't have as well as sacrifices that aren't worth it.
(Also bear in mind I gain 400 from aofc, but it wasn't on in this pic, and there's 700 from FA buffs, which also weren't on.)
My force archer hit 13.5-ish in bm2/aura with aos, so that's nearly 16k with pot. However, that's force archer who gets essentially a free gmaster passive's worth of attack rate from bow, and has more dex. And that's with attack rate buffs.
Edit: I am fully aware my accuracy is lacking, by the way. That's a little harder to obtain within my gear constraints though. :P
Variena
06-21-2014, 12:58 PM
Better attack rate? On a wizard? Only place to gain attack rate really is from extreme -- which is something like 300 more, and I don't think there are people with both 4/4 / 5/5 extreme weapons. I guess there's also 480 more from pet -- but does anyone have a 10/10 attack rate pet? And if one wanted to sacrifice 64 base for like... 300 attack rate they could do that as well in passives. So really, only about 1 - 1.5k more is possible, and requires gear that people don't have as well as sacrifices that aren't worth it.
(Also bear in mind I gain 400 from aofc, but it wasn't on in this pic, and there's 700 from FA buffs, which also weren't on.)
My force archer hit 13.5-ish in bm2/aura with aos, so that's nearly 16k with pot. However, that's force archer who gets essentially a free gmaster passive's worth of attack rate from bow, and has more dex. And that's with attack rate buffs.
Edit: I am fully aware my accuracy is lacking, by the way. That's a little harder to obtain within my gear constraints though. :P
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Tonberry
06-21-2014, 01:43 PM
why are we talking about fa stats again?
why are we talking about fa stats again?
Because when I mentioned my wizard's stats, someone told me they were fa stats. o.o
providen1990
06-21-2014, 03:54 PM
So with 348 accuracy how frequent you miss in bm2 when hit FB FA BL ?
So with 348 accuracy how frequent you miss in bm2 when hit FB FA BL ?
Not enough to compromise damage significantly. Enough to want more accuracy.
Imunique
06-22-2014, 03:03 AM
Right, FA. (No gloves on, hence the abysmal defense/defense rate. :x)
http://i.imgur.com/wIhLaOM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pzW76Fg.jpg
Impressive stats you have there o.o, and yes u have more atk rate than me bc my wiz only put dex up to 200 (rune included)
What orbs are u using ? if forcy +15 and sig +15 extreme 3 or above then it's possible to put up to 9k atk rate (it's not the case for most wiz though)
Valdoroth
06-23-2014, 10:39 AM
Might I suggest you use the newer skin I released. You should have also told me about that bottom left corner bug. Seriously..it's called feedback and doesn't fix itself if I don't know that something is wrong. Though that bug on the skin is definitely strange seeing as what's appearing there and where they are on the file are completely different, meaning your ui.dat file is the one most likely wrong.
Might I suggest you use the newer skin I released. You should have also told me about that bottom left corner bug. Seriously..it's called feedback and doesn't fix itself if I don't know that something is wrong. Though that bug on the skin is definitely strange seeing as what's appearing there and where they are on the file are completely different, meaning your ui.dat file is the one most likely wrong.
I'm pretty sure I mentioned it at some point. Honestly I barely notice it. And last I checked you had taken the download down. I don't spend a lot of time thinking about ui skins. I'll check it out, though.
Edit: the download link is broken