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ddnquang
07-09-2014, 01:40 AM
Just wondering how is everyone experience with the extreme upgrade system lately. I guess something has been changed. I got all reset and broken even with high level extreme cores for multiple times and those silver repair kits are clearly not 50% success rate. I had to use 7 of them just to repair a broken orb. I did extreme all my gears to lv 1 and 2 before but it wasn't this kinda hard. I wasted more than 20 if not 30 vouchers just to get all reset and broken, now all my gears are reset and I'm broke af. GMs if you are passing by and see this thread please let me know if anything is changed. I didnt put my money into those ecoins for this kinda XXX (check my ecoin refill history and you will see). Haters please dont ask why i put money onto a FTP game

Imunique
07-09-2014, 03:43 AM
you are not the only one crying here. we just know that higher lvl cores give higher success rate, but we don't know how much (base on my experience, it's 1% each lvl for each core) and 50% in cabal can be like 10% or 90% in the real life. So, better luck next time :)

aientd311
07-09-2014, 06:51 AM
They changed the rate for sure, upgrade rate, extreme, option upgrade rate.... If u want to compete with top geared players, ofc u need to spend at least as much money as them and also get lucky ^^

Enso
07-09-2014, 12:03 PM
rng

providen1990
07-10-2014, 03:27 AM
RNG in this game is OP one person can get all the luck and the other always get bad stuff. Idk if you guy like it but for me it is ridiculous, something is just wrong with this RNG.
I know a person who plus gear, belt... and earn billions in contrast I know a lots other who spend billions to + their gear. I know a person who run FT2, eod2 and get rings so frequent and many others who never seen rings drop for the 100th times. I know a person who open 30 trophies and get 5 golden ball and one who open 100 and get 2.
I think that the chance appear in game is actually less than it states, and you don't even get % indication for extreme upgrade you only know that the higher lvl the better and sometime, it is not even feel right.
You should give the GM your char name if you want them to check your record :)

ddnquang
07-10-2014, 07:25 AM
i also ran like 500 ft2 so far not a single ring dropped

Enso
07-10-2014, 11:29 AM
RNG in this game is OP one person can get all the luck and the other always get bad stuff. Idk if you guy like it but for me it is ridiculous, something is just wrong with this RNG.
I know a person who plus gear, belt... and earn billions in contrast I know a lots other who spend billions to + their gear. I know a person who run FT2, eod2 and get rings so frequent and many others who never seen rings drop for the 100th times. I know a person who open 30 trophies and get 5 golden ball and one who open 100 and get 2.
I think that the chance appear in game is actually less than it states, and you don't even get % indication for extreme upgrade you only know that the higher lvl the better and sometime, it is not even feel right.
You should give the GM your char name if you want them to check your record :)

http://www.random.org/integers/?num=10000&min=1&max=10&col=5&base=10&format=html&rnd=new

Check it out. Even with a good rng (which Cabal probably doesn't use, since it needs speed over "randomness"), you still can fail a 90% success chance three times in a row.

providen1990
07-10-2014, 02:44 PM
Here is the lesson, if you are not lucky in this game then stop trying this is worse than gamble :))

Enso
07-10-2014, 07:55 PM
Here is the lesson, if you are not lucky in this game then stop trying this is worse than gamble :))

True that. It's like a casino, you have to cap yourself or you'll gamble yourself broke. There are guaranteed (albeit slow) ways of making money in this game. Get a buffer before you gamble.

i sell stuff
07-26-2014, 09:52 AM
http://www.random.org/integers/?num=10000&min=1&max=10&col=5&base=10&format=html&rnd=new

Check it out. Even with a good rng (which Cabal probably doesn't use, since it needs speed over "randomness"), you still can fail a 90% success chance three times in a row.

I'm not exactly sure what this means. Can you explain it? Thank you.

Enso
07-26-2014, 03:42 PM
I'm not exactly sure what this means. Can you explain it? Thank you.

Computing good random numbers is expensive. It's likely that Cabal can't afford those calculations on everything that requires a random number to be generated, given the volume of requests.

ddnquang
07-26-2014, 04:02 PM
Just for the record i failed and reset more than 10 times yesterday with level 8 and 9 cores only just to extreme 1 my bike but finally got it up to lv2 with 3 lv10 core and 1 lv12. And i have just tried again today with 6 lv10 cores and it reset again. I fkn give up, no more wasting money on this stupid extreme. this is worst than gamble LOL

ddnquang
07-26-2014, 04:08 PM
Dont know if it's the same for you guys but for me it is impossible to extreme anything with lv7 cores now

MidgetNinja
07-26-2014, 04:53 PM
I have failed twice now with 6 level 10 cores each time to try and level 2 extreme my GS...first time it reset....second time it just broke

vuongkhang
07-26-2014, 05:12 PM
I didnt put my money into those ecoins for this kinda XXX (check my ecoin refill history and you will see). Haters please dont ask why i put money onto a FTP game
Haters gonna hate bro , keep making it rain on cabal more people like you helps esoft run cabal better , + 1 for you :cool:

ddnquang
07-26-2014, 06:13 PM
Haters gonna hate bro , keep making it rain on cabal more people like you helps esoft run cabal better , + 1 for you :cool:
I've not made it rain enough haha. That's why we're still getting lag and delay like crazy in the past couple weeks. But this is it for me

ddnquang
09-06-2014, 10:08 AM
dammit, i couldn't give up on extreme :-P
I gotta say going from extreme 3 to 4 is rly hard, the reset rate must be hella high. most people i know got reset going from 3 to 4. TP probably was the 1st to get it to 4. anyone got their gear to 4?? I used 7 lv12 and 1lv10 and it just reset, 2 consecutive times T.T

Imunique
09-06-2014, 07:46 PM
when extreme 3 fail, it just reset or can also be broken ? I tried to extreme 3 three times and they all reset

ddnquang
09-06-2014, 09:46 PM
when extreme 3 fail, it just reset or can also be broken ? I tried to extreme 3 three times and they all reset
From 2 to 3 both but 3 to 4 i guess the reset rate is higher but anything can happen i guess :)

ddnquang
09-10-2014, 11:50 AM
those silver repait kits. failed 11 times fixing a broken orb then another 6 times =))

jimbo
09-22-2014, 10:58 AM
i also ran like 500 ft2 so far not a single ring dropped

To make you feel better it droped for me 3 times in back to back runs