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forumtwizzler
07-19-2010, 09:12 AM
If this turns to be a successful thread perhaps we can send a ticket / make G.Ms to look at it. Well I don't know about you, but I can almost never use FK , in WAR (it breaks my combo) or pvp 3/4 times. I am assuming I am not the only one with the same problem. So I am forced to use charge, and each sword class has a parallel to this. So I was wondering "what if" the range for charge , not FK was increased with greater damage so it would make up for the loss of dps in FK and get rid of FK altogether.

This way it turns to be a useful skill in pvp / nw and also pve.

Spur
07-19-2010, 09:17 AM
If this turns to be a successful thread perhaps we can send a ticket / make G.Ms to look at it. Well I don't know about you, but I can almost never use FK , in WAR (it breaks my combo) or pvp 3/4 times. I am assuming I am not the only one with the same problem. So I am forced to use charge, and each sword class has a parallel to this. So I was wondering "what if" the range for charge , not FK was increased with greater damage so it would make up for the loss of dps in FK and get rid of FK altogether.

This way it turns to be a useful skill in pvp / nw and also pve.

lol then how about giving WIs 2x faster dashes since blink in combo almost never works and breaks my combo in war and pvp

Homeless
07-19-2010, 09:33 AM
ur pc suc.ks thats why u cant use FK i use it just fine >.>

Shinn
07-19-2010, 09:44 AM
ya lol its probably your pc bro

Ashcroft
07-19-2010, 09:47 AM
I fk combo all the damn time in war.

forumtwizzler
07-19-2010, 09:50 AM
My pc is fine. The attack registers on server side before being counted as an attack, so it is more dep on Ests server. Atleast 90 perc of sword class users will break at least one in three pvps. I hardly see anyone using it in nw.

As for some smart talkin wi I think your brain is too clouded standing. In bi using blink too often and calling it a free style pvp ? Its too good of a joke to be called trash in a random troll section.

Rastan
07-19-2010, 09:53 AM
If you're playing this game with 0 effects,no weather,no distortion,no audio,800x600 resolution and in window mode and still lag when you try and FK in combo......then you need a new pc

forumtwizzler
07-19-2010, 09:58 AM
Oh boy so your claims are all your Fks are 100 percent and never fails on a busy ch ? And why would I want to change my reso each time ? Lol am I the only one in this forum who can't combo fk ???

Rastan
07-19-2010, 10:03 AM
Oh boy so your claims are all your Fks are 100 percent and never fails on a busy ch ? And why would I want to change my reso each time ?

i'd say 99.9%..there are some days when I use fk in combo and it doesn't register the next skill at all,(that's lag),and some days i combo perfect yellow bars,it just depends on what background tasks i have going on at that time

Sheep
07-19-2010, 10:22 AM
it's because your ping is very high. try turning off crap in the background that uses up internets.

something with the servers have been changed in the recent update, im pretty sure of it. comboing with fade, dash, force kick, etc. should all be alot easier now.

Spur
07-19-2010, 10:24 AM
My pc is fine. The attack registers on server side before being counted as an attack, so it is more dep on Ests server. Atleast 90 perc of sword class users will break at least one in three pvps. I hardly see anyone using it in nw.

As for some smart talkin wi I think your brain is too clouded standing. In bi using blink too often and calling it a free style pvp ? Its too good of a joke to be called trash in a random troll section.

and tell me how our scenarios are diff? FK is one of ure skills and Blink is one of mine. if for any reason u think i shouldnt use blink wat makes u think u should be using fk

Sheep
07-19-2010, 10:29 AM
and tell me how our scenarios are diff? FK is one of ure skills and Blink is one of mine. if for any reason u think i shouldnt use blink wat makes u think u should be using fk

because blink is for running away like a wuss :\
fk is for actually fighting..

IaMaLive
07-19-2010, 10:34 AM
this is so so so so so fail...get over it dude, ppl break combo/lagg/spiked/DC/slow pc/etc. Guess what, your not always gonna get a perfect internet connection w/e you are using. Just because you got mad you lost a pvp or die in war, it doesnt give you the right to blame FK!!!!its an online game, deal with it. If not, then go make your own real life Cabal like those on youtube where you can FK without breaking.

ankoun2232
07-19-2010, 10:40 AM
why dont we just cuz wizards normal cast time in half...

not gonna hpn lolll

Spur
07-19-2010, 11:07 AM
because blink is for running away like a wuss :\
fk is for actually fighting..

just cause 1skill deals dmg and one doesnt dont mean ones for running and others for fighting. for all i know u can be using fk on a nipperlug behind u to run away and i need blink to get closer and atk u

IaMaLive
07-19-2010, 11:43 AM
just cause 1skill deals dmg and one doesnt dont mean ones for running and others for fighting. for all i know u can be using fk on a nipperlug behind u to run away and i need blink to get closer and atk u

that is why merc's skill>venus

Jeazy
07-19-2010, 11:52 AM
merc's skill> venus skills because we gotz jeazzzy baby

Berserk_Fury
07-19-2010, 11:54 AM
I run on i7 860 CPU, 4 gigs corsair 1600 ram, HD5870 GPU, 25 mbps up and down internet (yes, I actually get these speeds too) and yet FK breaks my combo about half the time.

Shinn
07-19-2010, 11:59 AM
I run on i7 860 CPU, 4 gigs corsair 1600 ram, HD5870 GPU, 25 mbps up and down internet (yes, I actually get these speeds too) and yet FK breaks my combo about half the time.

Fk's NEVER broke my combo unless somebody in the house is downloading which is rare, nice internet though i top at like 5mbps :(, y 860 tho =o lowest eva man <3 my 930, 5770 tho :(

Deathlymonkey
07-19-2010, 12:17 PM
because blink is for running away like a wuss :\
fk is for actually fighting..

Actually, blink has a magic atk. Click it, then check your character info. You'll see the skill's atk next to your magic atk. Idk how to use it, but looks like blink is an atk skill too.

Triplethreat
07-19-2010, 12:21 PM
Never had issues with FK breaking my combo. *Shrugs*

Enso
07-19-2010, 12:46 PM
FK is used all the time in war.... pretty much a range 12 dash.

forumtwizzler
07-19-2010, 01:09 PM
So that's 3 people out of 10 who is having problem with FK. 30%. My position is obviously not unique. And honest I don't need to use fk to beat someone down in a dps pvp, I can be challenging enough to players at any level. My point is simply this, it's a atk - some people are having a problem with it and it's not related to their personal machines. It is a strong attack that be used on a regular basis, and it is unfair to some. So instead add more dps to charge atk since all sword classes, assult for FB / BL charge for FS / WA, add a little more range (like may be 7 instead of 5/4) increase the dps , lower the cool time slightly may be 30% and increase dmg ? and it can be a nice skill. Of course TG it doesn't even matter , places are enclosed, not like some retarded WI who likes to spam 300 in BI and think it's the only PvP map << ? hello ? like even port lux would limit their movements etc. Of course imagine using an AOD, or an FB using foen + mf, FK stun and finish off = but that's not called fair game because ONLY blink is fair game, Blink actually count as skill ? and it has to be in wide open BI only. LOL. PLEAAAAASSEE ... dps pvp ftw.

IaMaLive
07-19-2010, 01:36 PM
I run on i7 860 CPU, 4 gigs corsair 1600 ram, HD5870 GPU, 25 mbps up and down internet (yes, I actually get these speeds too) and yet FK breaks my combo about half the time.

correct me if im wrong, from the looks of the specs u mentioned. your using desktop running wireless?

IaMaLive
07-19-2010, 01:40 PM
So that's 3 people out of 10 who is having problem with FK. 30%. My position is obviously not unique. And honest I don't need to use fk to beat someone down in a dps pvp, I can be challenging enough to players at any level. My point is simply this, it's a atk - some people are having a problem with it and it's not related to their personal machines. It is a strong attack that be used on a regular basis, and it is unfair to some. So instead add more dps to charge atk since all sword classes, assult for FB / BL charge for FS / WA, add a little more range (like may be 7 instead of 5/4) increase the dps , lower the cool time slightly may be 30% and increase dmg ? and it can be a nice skill. Of course TG it doesn't even matter , places are enclosed, not like some retarded WI who likes to spam 300 in BI and think it's the only PvP map << ? hello ? like even port lux would limit their movements etc. Of course imagine using an AOD, or an FB using foen + mf, FK stun and finish off = but that's not called fair game because ONLY blink is fair game, Blink actually count as skill ? and it has to be in wide open BI only. LOL. PLEAAAAASSEE ... dps pvp ftw.

where and how did you get 3/10 from? n from my understanding, they mostly have internet connection problem/pc problems.

Berserk_Fury
07-19-2010, 02:20 PM
Fk's NEVER broke my combo unless somebody in the house is downloading which is rare, nice internet though i top at like 5mbps :(, y 860 tho =o lowest eva man <3 my 930, 5770 tho :(

860 is better than 920 for cheaper. 930 didn't exist when I built my PC.

Spur
07-19-2010, 02:32 PM
Blink actually count as skill ? and it has to be in wide open BI only. LOL. PLEAAAAASSEE ... dps pvp ftw.

lol 1,2,3,4 pvp has very little to deal with dps. its all about the classes hp/def

BackUpMENG
07-19-2010, 02:56 PM
eat my shoes and shut the f up son

forumtwizzler
07-19-2010, 03:19 PM
yes which is basically my point. and i don't think it's individual connection problem, it's more like there is a lag / delay registering the attack on the server, by the time the server pings back it might be too late and the next attack drops short. which is why users should not be held accountable, a little adjustment can change a few things and give us better gaming experience. the developers are testing their product on a local network, of course they won't feel the difference. some of us, we do. some people were saying it's a pc problem which is not the case.

and for those who don't understand, well here are my machine specs, not the best but enough to run cabal. I still have problems with fk, it has nothing to do with system resources, at least for my pc. more like server response delays back and forth between EST Soft. That's why some of us who do have this problem the slight adjustment can benefit everyone.

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt8/chistiya/machine.png




where and how did you get 3/10 from? n from my understanding, they mostly have internet connection problem/pc problems.

Shinn
07-19-2010, 04:11 PM
Cute a dual core

beowolf101
07-19-2010, 04:35 PM
yes which is basically my point. and i don't think it's individual connection problem, it's more like there is a lag / delay registering the attack on the server, by the time the server pings back it might be too late and the next attack drops short. which is why users should not be held accountable, a little adjustment can change a few things and give us better gaming experience. the developers are testing their product on a local network, of course they won't feel the difference. some of us, we do. some people were saying it's a pc problem which is not the case.

and for those who don't understand, well here are my machine specs, not the best but enough to run cabal. I still have problems with fk, it has nothing to do with system resources, at least for my pc. more like server response delays back and forth between EST Soft. That's why some of us who do have this problem the slight adjustment can benefit everyone.

http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt8/chistiya/machine.png

i win yo
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/czrsmrc10/oo.jpg

xStar
07-19-2010, 04:48 PM
Lol, my computer is shiitier than both of yours. http://i25.tinypic.com/1zn4idu.jpg tee hee

Sheep
07-19-2010, 04:50 PM
http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/tt8/chistiya/machine.png


i win yo
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/czrsmrc10/oo.jpg

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/972/dwm2010071920453370.jpg
my quad core beats both of you xD <3

beowolf101
07-19-2010, 06:36 PM
Lol, my computer is shiitier than both of yours. http://i25.tinypic.com/1zn4idu.jpg tee hee

hows urs shiiter than mine u got more ram and a graphics card @_@
and u got a better bit system
3 things > 2 things @_@

Berserk_Fury
07-19-2010, 06:41 PM
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5120/rating.png

I think this menu shows more interesting info.

beowolf101
07-19-2010, 06:43 PM
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/5120/rating.png

I think this menu shows more interesting info.

wtf is in ur backround ?
@_@
and i don't get it >.>

Shinn
07-19-2010, 06:55 PM
lol @ disk data transfer

YoungForum
07-19-2010, 07:35 PM
FK used to break my combo from time to time on my old blader. there'd be times where i culd pull it off and times where i culd, id suggest just use it alot and get used to it. as for war depending on where ur using it from u could probaly just fk then start combo.

forumtwizzler
07-19-2010, 07:37 PM
anyway, my point was I have a machine that's sufficient for Cabal. Berserk_Fury has a decent machine too and both our FK are giving problems. I am confident about my connection. Which brings to the point that some of us are having difficulty with FK, why not increase range and dmg of charge / assult and get rid of FK ? And yes there is no point in keeping an idle CPU, I like high end ram instead of cached data sitting in your hard disk. The more that head rotates to extract data the slower the results - just my opinion anyway.

YoungForum, it's not a question of getting used to it. You cannot register the next attack period. It has nothing to do with combo gauge if that's what you are pointing at. Been playing since OB


8 gigs of ram muhammed? overcompensate much?

Berserk_Fury
07-19-2010, 08:49 PM
wtf is in ur backround ?
@_@
and i don't get it >.>

This thread is in my background. That menu shows the score for different parts of your computer rather than your lowest.


lol @ disk data transfer

That's the score it gives to any 7200 rpm HDD. You would need a 10,000 rpm or SSD to get better.

krider
07-19-2010, 08:49 PM
If you are having lag problems, not FPS problems, then its the internet connection in which the machine has nothing to do with it. I personally NEVER have any problems with FK, except for the time when everything else Im doing on the internet is slow.

Drew
07-19-2010, 10:24 PM
one word: latency

Rasecx
07-19-2010, 11:28 PM
Move closer to EST Servers brah i live like 60miles away from them. I run my comp with a Windows XP HP Pavilion a100*** w/ a 64MB onboard video card. I use combo with fk in pvp, pve, and war.

Spur
07-20-2010, 06:56 AM
Move closer to EST Servers brah i live like 60miles away from them. I run my comp with a Windows XP HP Pavilion a100*** w/ a 64MB onboard video card. I use combo with fk in pvp, pve, and war.

its sad but its true the closer u live the better

Shinn
07-20-2010, 07:07 AM
Ras u live in cali too then? o.o ive heard there in Cali lol

Enso
07-20-2010, 08:27 AM
What people don't get is that FK breaking combo is Internet connection problem, not computer problem. I have a stock Dell and I combo with FK after 11.

Berserk_Fury
07-20-2010, 08:35 AM
What people don't get is that FK breaking combo is Internet connection problem, not computer problem. I have a stock Dell and I combo with FK after 11.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/885988925.png

Enso
07-20-2010, 08:41 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/885988925.png

o.O Then it might be a tiny bit of server lag.... how far away are you from California?

Spur
07-20-2010, 08:43 AM
o.O Then it might be a tiny bit of server lag.... how far away are you from California?

lol look at his pic and u can tell. 50miles from NY = far far far away from Cali

Enso
07-20-2010, 08:46 AM
lol look at his pic and u can tell. 50miles from NY = far far far away from Cali

Lol I'm on my iPod and just zoom in on posts.. my bad. xD

And yeah then it could be server lag. o.o

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 08:52 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/885988925.png

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLL
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/czrsmrc10/-_-.jpg

Berserk_Fury
07-20-2010, 09:04 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/886020456.png

190 ping FTL D:

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 09:07 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/886020456.png

190 ping FTL D:

first time iv ever seen u use emotion sigh o.o

and btw company in LA not sandiego

Spur
07-20-2010, 09:10 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/886025786.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

we need the server in NY

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 09:13 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/886025786.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

we need the server in NY


http://www.speedtest.net/result/886020456.png

190 ping FTL D:

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg64/czrsmrc10/o-.jpg

i think i still win @_@

Spur
07-20-2010, 09:17 AM
i think i still win @_@

which proves its all about the ping cause the amount of data sent/received by the game has little impact. this is also the reason y i dont like dsl, the dl and upload speed is wat they advertise but when u use it cable is usually better

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 09:18 AM
which proves its all about the ping cause the amount of data sent/received by the game has little impact

i lagg a shiet load like not even funny
and iv'e seen fps solo vids
i rather take that than be able 2 use FK in a combo -.-

Spur
07-20-2010, 09:21 AM
i lagg a shiet load like not even funny
and iv'e seen fps solo vids
i rather take that than be able 2 use FK in a combo -.-

well ure lagging cause of ure connection, were lagging cause of our ping. if u had a semi decent connection which u can achieve pretty easily then ure problem will be fixed. us on the other hand cant do a thing about it except for moving lol

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 09:23 AM
well ure lagging cause of ure connection, were lagging cause of our ping. if u had a semi decent connection which u can achieve pretty easily then ure problem will be fixed. us on the other hand cant do a thing about it except for moving lol

well i can't do a think about it except get a better life style -_-

Shinn
07-20-2010, 09:35 AM
no wonder im always 1/1 in war <3 cali

Lute
07-20-2010, 09:36 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/886051300.png

I can force kick in combo just fine, got it 5 times in a row when I just checked on my alt. (And this was in BI, with other people around yes)
Dash in combo isn't a problem, fade in combo is possible but hard and rarely if ever works on people rather than mobs.

Also, I'm @ 5.9 rating on win7 as well, (5.9 because of hdd as with fps) but my other components aside hard drive are still lower than fps.
Add in a greater distance, ping and worse connection and well...who knows

Also, wtb> wizard skill with over 2x the dps of any other of our skills even if it does break combo sometimes. I won't even be picky and request that it be ranged 12 when wizard is already a ranged class while sword classes aren't and still get a range 12 skill.

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 09:38 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/886051300.png

I can force kick in combo just fine, got it 5 times in a row when I just checked on my alt. (And this was in BI, with other people around yes)
Dash in combo isn't a problem, fade in combo is possible but hard and rarely if ever works on people rather than mobs.

Also, I'm @ 5.9 rating on win7 as well, (5.9 because of hdd as with fps) but my other components aside hard drive are still lower than fps.
Add in a greater distance, ping and worse connection and well...who knows

>:O why do you guys click sandiego -.-
its in LA ( los Angeles

Lute
07-20-2010, 09:41 AM
>:O why do you guys click sandiego -.-
its in LA ( los Angeles

I'm just sticking with consistency for other people. Also to the best of my knowledge EST isn't even in California...

forumtwizzler
07-20-2010, 09:41 AM
the correct terminology is packet being sent, not ping and ping is not a determinenent. and for the garbage you see being sent over packet sniffers in cabal no wonder it lags. it's development. they have some flashy graphics to cover their front end but that gets boring after a while, take the blizzard games for example (broodwars / starcraft) game is a classic and many people play it even till this day, until starcraft 2 came out recently. i think the other thing is their focus is more towards korea & EU, we are just a bit of a dead market which explains lack of potential gateways, one in East Coast as well. Going for ogp made them lose 90% of the gamers, and they are still making a big mistake trying to squeeze more money out temporarily with a bad long term effect. Yeah new players are joining, I moved to Merc, Venus feels literally dead. We need optimized performance, server mergers (for large player base) and less interference from greed so it has a long term effect and not a short one.

1. Fixing FK would be a start so everyone can use it.
2. Server Merge for NA Cabal. (free rename kit for those with duplicate char name)
3. Class Changer (not pet changer)
4. More maps and less dungeons
5. Less money making incentive and focus on broader long term goals.
6. Even a possible merger with KR or EU and Merc Ven would be one server ?

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 09:41 AM
I'm just sticking with consistency for other people. Also to the best of my knowledge EST isn't even in California...

its in california
est confirmed it
and it was on the site for there address

xStar
07-20-2010, 09:43 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/886061350.png (http://www.speedtest.net)

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 09:44 AM
dayum people have worse conections than mine lol

Rastan
07-20-2010, 09:48 AM
http://www.speedtest.net/result/886065679.png

Lute
07-20-2010, 09:51 AM
its in california
est confirmed it
and it was on the site for there address

Noted. Also if you want to know, I have 97 ping to LA, same with fps from what I'm told.

And as far as Cabal being a piece of crap programming-wise, is this the first you knew of it....? The game can't utilize multi-core processors and in the past x-trap wouldn't even function on x64 OS computers.

Maybe Cabal 2 will fix some of the muli-core problems but no, don't even ask, it is not really possible or practical to re-code the entire game as is to gain that sort of support currently. You might as well try running cabal on a single-core machine with some 4 GHz single core cpu and likely end up with better results (granted you can get a graphics card to be fully supported and run well at the same time)

Spur
07-20-2010, 09:52 AM
Also, wtb> wizard skill with over 2x the dps of any other of our skills even if it does break combo sometimes. I won't even be picky and request that it be ranged 12 when wizard is already a ranged class while sword classes aren't and still get a range 12 skill.

if only we can wish... our highest dps skill is a terra lance. not only FK but even impact stab a skill u start with outdpses it. were out dpsed , out ranged and were the ranged ultimate destroyer lol

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 09:56 AM
Noted. Also if you want to know, I have 97 ping to LA, same with fps from what I'm told.

And as far as Cabal being a piece of crap programming-wise, is this the first you knew of it....? The game can't utilize multi-core processors and in the past x-trap wouldn't even function on x64 OS computers.

Maybe Cabal 2 will fix some of the muli-core problems but no, don't even ask, it is not really possible or practical to re-code the entire game as is to gain that sort of support currently. You might as well try running cabal on a single-core machine with some 4 GHz single core cpu and likely end up with better results (granted you can get a graphics card to be fully supported and run well at the same time)

some 1 dumb it down for me
i tried readignit 4 times still don't get it @_@

Lute
07-20-2010, 10:00 AM
if only we can wish... our highest dps skill is a terra lance. not only FK but even impact stab a skill u start with outdpses it. were out dpsed , out ranged and were the ranged ultimate destroyer lol

I might be wrong, but isn't shield splinter also...a longer range attack than space collapse? We get no orange-text skills, no multi-hit skills period, shorter range than FAs of course and we're even outranged by sword classes. Can't wait until FBs have their new trans skill, which has the highest (iirc) add attack of any new trans skills and is ranged...with a built in hard luck debuff at lvl 20. Gonna be awesome to use our epic range 6, lowest add magic trans skill that doesn't even have stun to make it useful in pve (and here I was in hope that another stun skill would make it so I could have stunlock with 3 lvl20 stun skills for the 180 grind). Guess another short range skill will be great in CA for those times where it makes you run a bit to hit a mob out of range and you get spiked.

Ok QQing sword classes, I have a proposition for you. I'll accept my "range" as it is if you wanna give wizards WA/FS defense and hp since the original logic to us being squishy is that...we're ranged...
Or as an alternative we can remove retargetting from the game to re balance the classes at least as far as bm2 goes, wizards stay squishy and have higher dps bm2 then.

Lute
07-20-2010, 10:09 AM
some 1 dumb it down for me
i tried readignit 4 times still don't get it @_@

2.8 GHz duo-core processor = a cpu with 2 cores each running at 2.8 GHz, combined that would be...................5.6 GHz

Companies had to create multi-core processors in order to cut down on heat where a single-core 5.6GHz processor would likely overheat and fry itself you can get the same power from making it multi-core allowing it to stay cooler.

Multi-core processors work by splitting up the tasks that the cpu is doing between the different cores, but Cabal isn't able to make use of this, meaning if you had said 2.8GHz duo-core it'd effectively be the same as running it on a 2.8GHz single-core.

Now, most current games could split up tasks between cores to allow them to use these cpu's. However to modify cabal to do this you'd basically have to re-code and redesign the entire game because the program needs to be coordinating the use of both cores doing processes simultanously instead of a single core which would just do one at a time.

(Your single core isn't ever really doing multiple things on your computer at the same time, it actually processes single lines of code 1 at a time just very very quickly. In order to support multiple cores the game would have to account for different lines processed at the same time, so you would have to keep track of both and make sure you didn't encounter errors with both doing the same things or using the same variables and such.)

tl:dr = Your duo-core cpu's are useless with cabal, 2.8GHz duo-core = 2.8Ghz single core to the game and support WILL NOT (likely) be added into a game this old at this stage

Edit - I double posted, sue me

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 10:17 AM
2.8 GHz duo-core processor = a cpu with 2 cores each running at 2.8 GHz, combined that would be...................5.6 GHz

Companies had to create multi-core processors in order to cut down on heat where a single-core 5.6GHz processor would likely overheat and fry itself you can get the same power from making it multi-core allowing it to stay cooler.

Multi-core processors work by splitting up the tasks that the cpu is doing between the different cores, but Cabal isn't able to make use of this, meaning if you had said 2.8GHz duo-core it'd effectively be the same as running it on a 2.8GHz single-core.

Now, most current games could split up tasks between cores to allow them to use these cpu's. However to modify cabal to do this you'd basically have to re-code and redesign the entire game because the program needs to be coordinating the use of both cores doing processes simultanously instead of a single core which would just do one at a time.

(Your single core isn't ever really doing multiple things on your computer at the same time, it actually processes single lines of code 1 at a time just very very quickly. In order to support multiple cores the game would have to account for different lines processed at the same time, so you would have to keep track of both and make sure you didn't encounter errors with both doing the same things or using the same variables and such.)

tl:dr = Your duo-core cpu's are useless with cabal, 2.8GHz duo-core = 2.8Ghz single core to the game and support WILL NOT (likely) be added into a game this old at this stage

Edit - I double posted, sue me
YO wtf
i said dumb it down
no smart it up -_-
B> new translator >.<

Lute
07-20-2010, 10:18 AM
pls 2 read the "tl:dr" part in bold

Spur
07-20-2010, 10:20 AM
YO wtf
i said dumb it down
no smart it up -_-
B> new translator >.<

1core x 4ghz = 4ghz
2core x 3ghz = 6ghz
4core x 2ghz = 8ghz

but under cabal rules

1core x 4ghz = 4ghz
2core x 3ghz = 3ghz
4core x 2ghz = 2ghz

2nd grade lvl for u

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 10:24 AM
1core x 4ghz = 4ghz
2core x 3ghz = 6ghz
4core x 2ghz = 8ghz

but under cabal rules

1core x 4ghz = 4ghz
2core x 3ghz = 3ghz
4core x 2ghz = 2ghz

2nd grade lvl for u

oh lol
thx
btw that mean my prossesor would be 4ghz then ? under cabal rulz o.O

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 10:27 AM
pls 2 read the "tl:dr" part in bold


wf tl:dr mean ?

Lute
07-20-2010, 10:32 AM
wf tl:dr mean ?

too long, didn't read

And no, by your picture you have a 2.6 GHz cpu...

The issue is, 2.6 duo-core is far "better" and more expensive than a 3 or 4 ghz single-core, but not such with cabal

Also since I didn't see this before

So forumtwizzler....


1. Fixing FK would be a start so everyone can use it.
2. Server Merge for NA Cabal. (free rename kit for those with duplicate char name)
3. Class Changer (not pet changer)
4. More maps and less dungeons
5. Less money making incentive and focus on broader long term goals.
6. Even a possible merger with KR or EU and Merc Ven would be one server ?


1) It isn't "broken" just like dash in combo, fade in combo, blink in combo isn't "broken". Though if you want to "fix" it, by all means advocate for it, also make sure you urge them to fix bm2 re-target
2) Not going to happen, clearly there's money to be made off server transfer kits....
3) LOLNO
4) More maps and less dungeons....so you want more maps with non-existent drop rates, where hackers can go around and kill any bosses and you're forced to wait for respawns instead of having a dungeon to yourself? Also not to mention that in a dungeon you'll lag less (relatively) since there aren't other people all over the map
5) Welcome to cabal, the FREE TO PLAY game...yeah not gonna happen
6) Again, LOLNO

Changes I'd like to see =D
1) less people whining
2) wizard actually a ranged class, or give wizard defense/hp of close-range classes
3) remove bm2 re-target if people are so insistent on fixes
4) Amp-changer.....would make 1 in 1000 amp drops less idiotic since you wouldn't be stuck with wrong-amp

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 10:35 AM
too long, didn't read

And no, by your picture you have a 2.6 GHz cpu...

The issue is, 2.6 duo-core is far "better" and more expensive than a 3 or 4 ghz single-core, but not such with cabal

so my computer is way below average lol

Lute
07-20-2010, 10:44 AM
Don't feel bad, I'm sitting here on a 2.53 GHz duo-core laptop. Granted it has built-in overclocking for gaming that brings it up a bit and the gpu and ram makes the game work still....cabal doesn't really need much, I still manage 80-120+ fps in war even most of the time. All the better to blink into walls with. I also can still fk in combo if I go on a sword class and care enough to try...so I don't think that connection or computer specs is really the main source of the problem here

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 10:46 AM
well i run on like
an average of 3-15 fps
3 fps in full screen
15 fps in window mode wiht like
800x600 screen no graphics no thinging
and for somereason when i go 2 warp center i shoot up in the 40s for fps

Lute
07-20-2010, 10:53 AM
warp center = basically nothing graphically so that isn't really a surprise is it...

Shinn
07-20-2010, 11:04 AM
too long, didn't read

And no, by your picture you have a 2.6 GHz cpu...

The issue is, 2.6 duo-core is far "better" and more expensive than a 3 or 4 ghz single-core, but not such with cabal

Also since I didn't see this before

So forumtwizzler....


1) It isn't "broken" just like dash in combo, fade in combo, blink in combo isn't "broken". Though if you want to "fix" it, by all means advocate for it, also make sure you urge them to fix bm2 re-target
2) Not going to happen, clearly there's money to be made off server transfer kits....
3) LOLNO
4) More maps and less dungeons....so you want more maps with non-existent drop rates, where hackers can go around and kill any bosses and you're forced to wait for respawns instead of having a dungeon to yourself? Also not to mention that in a dungeon you'll lag less (relatively) since there aren't other people all over the map
5) Welcome to cabal, the FREE TO PLAY game...yeah not gonna happen
6) Again, LOLNO

Changes I'd like to see =D
1) less people whining
2) wizard actually a ranged class, or give wizard defense/hp of close-range classes
3) remove bm2 re-target if people are so insistent on fixes
4) Amp-changer.....would make 1 in 1000 amp drops less idiotic since you wouldn't be stuck with wrong-amp

Ill be honest i like the wizard idea I would like to see a change in there style, because they I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥ fa can do anything a wizard can with more power and dps and dash combo and stuff

and i agree with 4 i just got a M amp forcy helm >.> though helm I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥ it would still be nice to have the correct amp

Penguin
07-20-2010, 03:03 PM
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Fps always around 100 when not in war. its changing alot from 60 to 130+ but usually 80 -110.

jimbo
07-20-2010, 03:57 PM
If this turns to be a successful thread perhaps we can send a ticket / make G.Ms to look at it. Well I don't know about you, but I can almost never use FK , in WAR (it breaks my combo) or pvp 3/4 times. I am assuming I am not the only one with the same problem. So I am forced to use charge, and each sword class has a parallel to this. So I was wondering "what if" the range for charge , not FK was increased with greater damage so it would make up for the loss of dps in FK and get rid of FK altogether.

This way it turns to be a useful skill in pvp / nw and also pve.

fk is the fastest and best filler a sword class can have and dont forget it does a good deal of dmg for a filler the best ...in my opinoin .........if they make charge more stronger........they would be the top fillers.....

ForumHavoc
07-20-2010, 05:05 PM
That's why you spam cannons. Psshh.

Berserk_Fury
07-20-2010, 05:30 PM
If only SSDs weren't so damn expensive... I mean seriously, 128 gig for over 300 bucks?

4SaKeN
07-20-2010, 06:51 PM
fk breaks my combo aswell but... so does assault and vital, because my comp and net fails, i think its good idea to make fk faster cooldown, stronger and slower cast time.

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 08:36 PM
@_@ im so lost now

Penguin
07-20-2010, 08:37 PM
If only SSDs weren't so damn expensive... I mean seriously, 128 gig for over 300 bucks?

It make force kick work tho xD.
And prices are much lower now.

August 06, 2009
Orginal Price $428.61
Price Match $377.00

thats a while ago.

SilentM
07-20-2010, 09:35 PM
I have had this FK problem as well. I think it's either server lag or just a skill glitch.
I used to -always- use fk as my opening move in a pvp with no problem. It wasn't until a certain update about a year ago, that FK started making me break -EVERY- time in pvp. Since then, I stopped using FK in pvp because it breaks -always- no matter what order it's in.

I clearly remember, when I first discovered this problem, I shouted in the channel I was in, and someone told me it was a glitch. I thought everyone knew that FK was glitched until someone made a topic about it on the OGplanet forums, and probably less than half the people on the topic knew about it.

I don't see why a pvp would make only Fk "lag" when I can debuff and dash in combo and use ANY other skill in combo just fine without "lag." So where is the difference with FK? Why would only FK make my combo break?

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 09:35 PM
wait so can we all agree that i have the crappiest connection + crappiest computer ?

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 10:16 PM
@_@

xStar
07-20-2010, 10:20 PM
@_@its your dad gamer

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 10:22 PM
its your dad gamer

look at the window
im mexican and so is he even if i don't know him x.x
thats north looking by what i hear mexico don't have snow @_@

xStar
07-20-2010, 10:27 PM
look at the window
im mexican and so is he even if i don't know him x.x
thats north looking by what i hear mexico don't have snow @_@The window have a screen so it makes it look stupid, and on the side that looks like crumpled plastic. lol ITS YOUR DADDIE

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 10:30 PM
The window have a screen so it makes it look stupid, and on the side that looks like crumpled plastic. lol ITS YOUR DADDIE

i meant out the window on the right side -.-

renji642
07-20-2010, 10:36 PM
um..i'm pretty sure i have one of the worst computers out there in cabal.....and i never break force kick..what u want to do to fix the problem is to fix the server delay...just look around on the net there should be a guide on how to do that....i used to break all the time until i used it however i cant remember where it is...lol...but seriously i cant even play nation war without lag, sometimes i just freeze up and die because of the amount of people...then losers come and ask oh how come your not bringer -.- but....i still almost never break force kick as long as its a normal situation where there arent a million ppl :S

xStar
07-20-2010, 10:39 PM
i meant out the window on the right side -.-i said, looks like crumpled plastic. i can see the g@y resembelence in you and him. TEE HEE

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 10:44 PM
i said, looks like crumpled plastic. i can see the g@y resembelence in you and him. TEE HEE

u havn't even seen my pic o.O + thats snow not plasic o.O

xStar
07-20-2010, 10:45 PM
u havn't even seen my pic o.O + thats snow not plasic o.OYes I have in picture thread. lol

beowolf101
07-20-2010, 10:46 PM
oh i did post it o.o
thought that was a bad dream rofl

Rasecx
07-20-2010, 11:55 PM
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