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forumtwizzler
07-30-2010, 07:25 AM
Has anyone observed this. If you have a high defense, for some reason I get less crits. Is there a relationship between the two ? By high defense I mean players hitting 1200+ defense. I have tried this against a few players with high defense and even converged my rate to 54% just to see how it would play out. In all I did over 200 pvps. The general would be 4 fillers, SS and SB. I crit less than 50%. I checked some EU forums and they say about the same thing. Anyone with any idea ?

Matrimoney
07-30-2010, 07:30 AM
lol no..

Spur
07-30-2010, 07:31 AM
it must be psychological. defense will not affect how many times u crit itll only affect how much dmg u get crit for. ive fought every single high def player on merc and i have never noticed critting less just cause they got the def

Lethal
07-30-2010, 07:35 AM
lol no..

I agree, I doubt it has any affect on how much you crit. Your reasoning probably is based on placebo. You just had a bad 200 pvps. If that was how many pvps your test group was.




tl;dr: 50% is 50% rate.

otice1
07-30-2010, 07:35 AM
I have noticed it myself but I would consider it a superstition, a coincidence at most.

Berserk_Fury
07-30-2010, 08:26 AM
I noticed this a while back. I have a much harder time critting on high defense characters such as end game shielders and warriors than squishy wizards and FAs. Hell when pvping average wizards I might as well just use assassinate and infernal because they're probably going to crit anyway.

Lethal
07-30-2010, 08:28 AM
just use assassinate and infernal because they're all i'll get off because force bladers aren't good at cabal

Fixed

Berserk_Fury
07-30-2010, 08:34 AM
I have downs so I pretend to be smart on the internet

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2852/12014440131199523291857.jpg

Lethal
07-30-2010, 08:38 AM
I make fun of matrimoney for saying downsyndrome 50 times a day and then do it myself

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/WiII_photos/ustill.jpg

Berserk_Fury
07-30-2010, 08:40 AM
derp

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/1106/hatertrollcat.jpg

Lethal
07-30-2010, 08:45 AM
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/WiII_photos/windows7.jpg

http://www.queerty.com/wp/docs/2009/01/smile25.jpg

Hydro
07-30-2010, 08:46 AM
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n299/onieljns/633522862526484723-GoodJobForonceyoudidntepicallyfail1.jpg

WIpwns
07-30-2010, 08:50 AM
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n299/onieljns/633522862526484723-GoodJobForonceyoudidntepicallyfail1.jpg
omg u so funny
/endsarcasm
stop using the same poster every time and stop using ur dad as ur sig

Hydro
07-30-2010, 08:51 AM
ok....ill find one

WIpwns
07-30-2010, 08:52 AM
ok....ill find one


Hey Hydro, what's the difference between a park bench and a black man?


i loled

EzSeleneEz
07-30-2010, 08:52 AM
Fixed

force bladers arent good? hmmm.... with the stats ive seen even when you were proven to be in aura i still wasnt very impressed...

didnt u have like....under 1k attack? under 50% amp? under 150% cd? this force blader is above all of those.

Hydro
07-30-2010, 08:53 AM
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n299/onieljns/bckk8.jpg

Lethal
07-30-2010, 08:55 AM
force bladers arent good? hmmm.... with the stats ive seen even when you were proven to be in aura i still wasnt very impressed...

didnt u have like....under 1k attack? under 50% amp? under 150% cd? this force blader is above all of those.

When are you people going to learn that Kyusoku was a random blader, different than LethalHeart? Trololo, it was scrub. I deleted LethalHeart. You must not have seen the pictures.



Edit: Hydro, those pictures are freaking old, and unfunny.

Hydro
07-30-2010, 08:57 AM
i cant find any >_<

Lethal
07-30-2010, 08:57 AM
i cant find any >_<

Then stop posting, jesus.

Hydro
07-30-2010, 09:00 AM
no...im tryna get my post up...u mind stop I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥iin my diick please? go find a girl 2 talk 2 and stop bothering me.

WIpwns
07-30-2010, 09:02 AM
When are you people going to learn that Kyusoku was a random blader, different than LethalHeart? Trololo, it was scrub. I deleted LethalHeart. You must not have seen the pictures.

ill be on matris side this time
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/WiII_photos/CabalVer107-100620-0957-0000.jpg
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/WiII_photos/Cabal/CabalVer80-091130-1709-0001-1.jpg
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~teddo/orly.png
whyd u delete blade cry

Lethal
07-30-2010, 09:02 AM
no...im tryna get my post up...u mind stop I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥I love you >.<♥iin my diick please? go find a girl 2 talk 2 and stop bothering me.

It's not like post count reflects the size of your shaft or anything, and if you're really just going to be retarded and do that, do it in a different section. Because you're annoying as hell.

Lethal
07-30-2010, 09:05 AM
ill be on matris side this time
http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/WiII_photos/?action=view&current=Mystats.jpg
http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/WiII_photos/Cabal/CabalVer80-091130-1709-0001-1.jpg
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~teddo/orly.png

That picture isn't over a year old.
/sarcasm


Still trying to find out why you posted it.


Oh right you want to rub it in Dashields face that he owes me an eog+8 because I smashed his face in the ground with my titianium blade lololol. 6 times.

forumtwizzler
07-30-2010, 09:37 AM
ok guys, thanks for the response. it's probably psychological or may be stroke of bad luck. i feel at 54% i am critting less than 50% and around 49% the crit feels like 40%, 44% feels like 35% ish. don't know. it's probably just me.

Mishon
07-30-2010, 10:05 AM
I have this same problem but with BM1, my rate is at 52% and I crit like once every 6 hits, but without BM1 I crit 4 out of the six lol.

Lethal
07-30-2010, 10:06 AM
I have this same problem but with BM1, my rate is at 52% and I crit like once every 6 hits, but without BM1 I crit 4 out of the six lol.

I'm sure that happens all the time.

Rastan
07-30-2010, 10:29 AM
ok guys, thanks for the response. it's probably psychological or may be stroke of bad luck. i feel at 54% i am critting less than 50% and around 49% the crit feels like 40%, 44% feels like 35% ish. don't know. it's probably just me.

then go 61% rate

Error
07-30-2010, 10:36 AM
That picture isn't over a year old.
/sarcasm


Still trying to find out why you posted it.


Oh right you want to rub it in Dashields face that he owes me an eog+8 because I smashed his face in the ground with my titianium blade lololol. 6 times.

nice skill bar

Lethal
07-30-2010, 10:38 AM
nice skill bar

Regardless of the blader, or even class, I'd still have the same skill bar. It's my style. I don't really have evidence to support their difference, except BC/DR, and my word.
Also, Lethal got to KoD. Kyusoku was only Knight.

Edit: Let me remind you that Wipwns created characters with LethalHeart names in Mercury+Venus, the same day I deleted my characters and posted the SS. If you name change, it takes a day to register that the past name is not in use anymore.

NiteFalcon
07-30-2010, 12:57 PM
lol back on topic, obviously its easy to say that defense shouldnt make any difference on crit rate, theres no reason it should. But I have experienced the same thing muhammed. there are like 3 or 4 ppl with high defense who for some reason I hardly crit. dunno why

jimbo
07-30-2010, 01:04 PM
high def effect the crt dmg.......but i dont no about rate.......(no obviously RATE)

coolestkid
07-30-2010, 01:30 PM
i duel burningpaki and hes hard to crit cause his glitched alz lowers my crit rate

>.>
07-30-2010, 01:52 PM
i dunno... i noticed that many times during war, i almost never crit on the better geared opponents, and i always crit on the poorly equipped ones/lower lvl ones .. and all of them have SI also.

jimbo
07-30-2010, 02:17 PM
i dunno... i noticed that many times during war, i almost never crit on the better geared opponents, and i always crit on the poorly equipped ones/lower lvl ones .. and all of them have SI also.

maybe there high def make it look like u dont crit xD "ahh i crited ss on him two times and he still not dead"

Rastan
07-30-2010, 04:47 PM
maybe it's not defense at all,perhaps.......defense rate?

Lethal
07-30-2010, 04:55 PM
perhaps.......

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt211/WiII_photos/question.jpg



How long does guild title last?

jimbo
07-30-2010, 05:33 PM
maybe it's not defense at all,perhaps.......defense rate?

well if i was metri i would say u stupid how dum do u sound or something like that ..........but .....the question says defense vs crit rate................ not why i keep missing .......

forumMule
07-30-2010, 05:35 PM
well if i was metri i would say u stupid how dum do u sound or something like that ..........but .....the question says defense vs crit rate................ not why i keep missing .......

Fob.

Lethal
07-30-2010, 05:36 PM
Fob.

You're not grammatically perfect either.

jimbo
07-30-2010, 05:39 PM
lol whats a fob leathal and why dont u use that sig that crystal gave u it looks cool

Lethal
07-30-2010, 05:42 PM
lol whats a fob leathal and why dont u use that sig that crystal gave u it looks cool

It's an old signature, I used it forever ago. Don't get me wrong, it's the best signature I've seen on these forums, and I love it. I planned on using it when I get my account unblocked. If anyone ever answers my help desk tickets....

jimbo
07-30-2010, 05:44 PM
It's an old signature, I used it forever ago. Don't get me wrong, it's the best signature I've seen on these forums, I love it. I planned on using it when I get my account unblocked. If anyone ever answers my help desk tickets....

what about my sig and u still didnt tell me whats a fob

Lethal
07-30-2010, 05:49 PM
FOB is an acronym for Fresh Off the Boat.
Personally, I'm not a fan of naruto, or .gif signatures. I mean it's cool if you're into that sort of stuff.

jimbo
07-30-2010, 05:54 PM
FOB is an acronym for Fresh Off the Boat.
Personally, I'm not a fan of naruto, or .gif signatures. I mean it's cool if you're into that sort of stuff.

o i see well i don't take that as a bad comment and its not just naruto but i like gif cause its a bit entertaining

CyrStalAFX
07-30-2010, 06:09 PM
^_^