Which forci orb?

**david001938** · 04-25-2011, 03:28 PM

currently i have a phery of db +6 40% cd and a topaz +9 10% cd but i plan on changing the topaz one into a forci one.
the thing is, im not sure wether to buy forci 10% cd or have to save up 500m for forci 7%m.amp, the + for the forci doesnt matter as i can just upgrade or buy at the same +.

is the 7%m.amp really that much better than 10% cd? or i guess i could get sigmetal +6 20% cd but that would decrease my magic from topaz+9, would that still be gud?

**jone** · 04-25-2011, 09:25 PM

Don't go for the SIG.
For the forcy orbs, you'd want either a +11 (10% CD) or a +9 (% amp).
Those two are about equivalent to each other damage wise.

And yes, 7% amp is that much better than 10% CD.
Would you like to increase your magic attack by 7% or increase your CD by 10%, which only effects criticals anyway.

**david001938** · 04-26-2011, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by jone

Don't go for the SIG.
For the forcy orbs, you'd want either a +11 (10% CD) or a +9 (% amp).
Those two are about equivalent to each other damage wise.

And yes, 7% amp is that much better than 10% CD.
Would you like to increase your magic attack by 7% or increase your CD by 10%, which only effects criticals anyway.

hmm i guess it makes sense to not get the SIG. i guess ill try saving u for the amp one, since +11 10%cd right now costs ALOT considering how much money i usually get per day

**Deathlymonkey** · 04-26-2011, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by david001938

hmm i guess it makes sense to not get the SIG. i guess ill try saving u for the amp one, since +11 10%cd right now costs ALOT considering how much money i usually get per day

You can do good with +9 10%crit dmg forci until you can afford amp.

**david001938** · 04-26-2011, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Deathlymonkey

You can do good with +9 10%crit dmg forci until you can afford amp.

seems kind of a waste to buy a forci +9 10% cd and then have to save up more for an m.amp.
its ok, ill try saving up for the forci with 7% magic amp

**SilvusX** · 04-28-2011, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by jone

Don't go for the SIG.
For the forcy orbs, you'd want either a +11 (10% CD) or a +9 (% amp).
Those two are about equivalent to each other damage wise.

And yes, 7% amp is that much better than 10% CD.
Would you like to increase your magic attack by 7% or increase your CD by 10%, which only effects criticals anyway.

I disagree, a +11 (10 cd) is in fact way superior than +9 7.m amp.

http://www.cabalc.com/en/
you can play with a damage calculator like this

an FA at 170 w/
A. 1100 M.Atk | 47% m AMP | 100% CDI | 49/50 Rate

Vs

B. 1100 M.Atk | 40% m AMP | 110% CDI | 49/50 Rate

*Using the skill Shadowshot, both orb have the same average damage output @ 3618.

*If you mess around with other skills, all the damage are in fact very identical.

*The only difference with m amp orb is that, Critical Shot would be a little stronger, and a little stronger in bm2.

(Notice the calculator does not seem to apply critical shot's bonus 105% cdi, which is why its not used for comparison here).

*With that the aside, a +11 Crit orb (16 M ATK higher) would be definitely stronger than +9 m Amp orb.

I would actually in fact, rather get a crit orb to start with, and save for the double slotted forcium orb.

**Exception** · 04-28-2011, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by SilvusX

I disagree, a +11 (10 cd) is in fact way superior than +9 7.m amp.

http://www.cabalc.com/en/
you can play with a damage calculator like this

an FA at 170 w/
A. 1100 M.Atk | 47% m AMP | 100% CDI | 49/50 Rate

Vs

B. 1100 M.Atk | 40% m AMP | 110% CDI | 49/50 Rate

*Using the skill Shadowshot, both orb have the same average damage output @ 3618.

*If you mess around with other skills, all the damage are in fact very identical.

*The only difference with m amp orb is that, Critical Shot would be a little stronger, and a little stronger in bm2.

(Notice the calculator does not seem to apply critical shot's bonus 105% cdi, which is why its not used for comparison here).

*With that the aside, a +11 Crit orb (16 M ATK higher) would be definitely stronger than +9 m Amp orb.

I would actually in fact, rather get a crit orb to start with, and save for the double slotted forcium orb.

You forgot the magic attk bro.